Re: [IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] RE: ICANN received 44 applications for new TLDs

2000-10-05 Thread Michael Sondow

Kent Crispin wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 11:13:25AM -0700, Anupam Chander wrote:
> [...]
> > Mr. Sondow's future postings will go unanswered by me.

That is because he has no answer to them.

> Generally, that is the best policy.

Same for Crispin, whose credibility (never very great, since he is a
government employee) reached zero when he went behind the back of
the membership of the DNSO-in-formation, re-writing the proposal
agreed to in Monterrey in order to incorporate the demands of the
trademark lobby without anyone's approval.

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[IFWP] ICANN's Address Council: an important new power group

2000-10-05 Thread Michael Sondow

(Re-posted from the ASO-policy list)

> The address council has recently published a graphical view of the procedures of the 
>Address Council at our web site: http://www.aso.icann.org/ac/
> 
> http://www.aso.icann.org/ac/procedures.pdf


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[IFWP] Re: [Nc-tlds] RE: ICANN received 44 applications for new TLDs

2000-10-05 Thread Michael Sondow

Anupam Chander writes:
> 
> First, Mr.
> Sondow's uneducated claim that I have "only recently become aware of ICANN's
> activities" is utterly false.

I used the word "uneducated" in reference to the ICANN Board, not
Mr. Chander. As to Mr. Chander being only recently involved in this
affair, I don't recall seeing any posts from him on the related
mailing lists (IFWP, Domain-policy, ICANN M.A.C., etc.) during the 
period 1998-99 (I have been an active subscriber to them), nor do I
remember ever
having heard him speak at an ICANN meeting during its formation.

Where was Mr. Chander when the White Paper was issued? Where was he
during the IFWP? Where was he during the debates 
surrounding the proposals for the NewCo? Where was he during the
struggle between the Paris group and the CORE/Trademark group for
acceptance by the ICANN Board of bylaws for the DNSO, or the war for
control of the NCDNHC? Was he present, but silent? Did he use
another name?

> If he had forwarded my original email in its
> entirety, others would have understood that the primary thrust of that email
> was criticism of ICANN's $50k entrance fee.

Your so-called "criticism" is typical of the loyal
opposition. You, like so many others who have found an unwarranted
place in ICANN, operate so as to preserve your new-found and
undeserved position by criticizing ICANN "from within", careful
always to suggest, in every thing you say, that ICANN is not
actually a bad organization, that it has simply made some minor
errors, and that it is reformable. These are lies. ICANN was
illegitimately created, has proceeded illegitimately in everything
it has undertaken including its manipulation of its own bylaws to
obviate the most fundamental rules which allowed it to be recognized
by the DOC (membership, transparency, and accountability), and is in
blatant violation of the U.S. Constitution and federal laws
regarding the administration of government agencies and antitrust.
Yet you pretend that ICANN need only modify its greed, by changing
its TLD application process, to become acceptable.

Like a host of other appeasers and collaborators, your criticisms
are a cover-up for the irreconcilable breaches of justice, fairness,
and legality committed by ICANN and which make it an unreformable
and illicit organization.

> By forwarding my email to
> multiple lists, he denies me the opportunity to respond to his ridicule
> because I am not a subscriber to those lists, and my response is thereby
> automatically rejected by those lists that prohibit non-member > postings.

The fact that you are not a subscriber to the IFWP and Domain-Policy
lists proves my original contention that you are a jonny-come-lately
who has only recently become aware of ICANN's activities.

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[IFWP] Re: DOC ICANN buck passing

2000-10-05 Thread Karl E. Peters

Joe,
Thanks for keeping an ear to the political ground for us and alerting us
to the sad state of affairs that have characterized this administration in the
US, though the affairs are usually less political in nature. I encourage all
US readers of Joe's post to ask their representatives (now running for
re-election!!!) who is responsible for ICANN oversight and what they are doing
to keep up with such a key issue to the future of American and global
business, the internet! Post their responses here and for press people to be
aware of. They are there to represent us and work for our interests, let your
local papers know when they do not!

Thanks again, Joe!!!
Karl E. Peters
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"!Dr. Joe Baptista" wrote:

> Just in case someone is interested - there is no one at the DOC in charge
> of ICANN.  It looks as if there's going to be a bit of buck passing at the
> NTIA since Burr's departure.
>
> Burr left the NTIA on Sept 8th and her responsibilities were trasnferred
> to Ken Schagrin.  Ken called me from Montreal yesturday (he's enjoying the
> recent funeral we had there - great for internatinal contacts) and he
> confirmed that he will be transfered to another government department
> (trade) on Oct 10th.  That's five days from now and he has no idea who is
> going to replace him - or at least won't say.
>
> Now this is conveniently happening in the middle of an icann election
> during a very contraversial TLD application.  I commened the NTIA on
> avoiding it's responsibility.  This is the classical example of the civil
> service suffle called "let's avoid responsibility".  I'm not impressed.
>
> regards
> joe
>
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