[IFWP] Proposed by-law amendments

1999-08-01 Thread Milton Mueller

The impact of these amendments is to centralize too much power
in the hands of the ICANN Board, at the expense of the DNSO and
its constituents.

The amendment to Section 2(a) of Article VI-B of the Bylaws
allows the ICANN Board to resolve disputes about which member of
a constituency is recognized as a Names Council member. Such
disputes should be resolved by the constituency itself,
according to their own rules.

The amendment to Section 3(c) of Article VI-B of the Bylaws
deals with two issues. On the question of geographical
diversity, the ICANN Board has created distrust by its apparent
willingness to make exceptions for trademark interests and other
big business constituents. Once again, I would prefer not to see
discretionary power in the hands of the board. Either enforce
geographical diversity or don't. On the second question, while I
agree with the provision that a constituency cannot have more NC
representatives than it has members, I do not agree with
limiting the number of nominations a member can make.

The most objectionable proposal is the amendment to Section 2(f)
of Article VI-B of the Bylaws. This allows a vote of the ICANN
Board to remove duly elected Names Council members from office.
Even with a 3/4 majority requirement, I see no justification for
placing such power in the hands of the Board, at the expense of
the DNSO constituency. Constituencies can develop their own
methods for removing or disciplining errant NC members. There is
too much potential for discrimination and abuse in this
provision, which allows the ICANN Board on its own motion to
reach into a constituency and remove one of its elected members.

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syracuse university  http://istweb.syr.edu/~mueller/





Re: [IFWP] Proposed by-law amendments

1999-08-01 Thread Mikki Barry

The most objectionable proposal is the amendment to Section 2(f)
of Article VI-B of the Bylaws. This allows a vote of the ICANN
Board to remove duly elected Names Council members from office.
Even with a 3/4 majority requirement, I see no justification for
placing such power in the hands of the Board, at the expense of
the DNSO constituency. Constituencies can develop their own
methods for removing or disciplining errant NC members. There is
too much potential for discrimination and abuse in this
provision, which allows the ICANN Board on its own motion to
reach into a constituency and remove one of its elected members.

What a marked contrast to the BWG and ORSC rules where board members could
be removed.  Has this become blatently obvious yet as to what is actually
going on?





Re: [IFWP] Proposed by-law amendments

1999-08-01 Thread Jeff Williams

Milton and all

  Excellent comments here Milton.  I could not agree more.  I will
pass these on to our [INEGroup] board for review as well, I am fairly
sure that
they will meet with their approval.

  IT seems that this ICANN (Initial?) Interim board again, and continues

to demonstrate that they care nothing for their responsibilities to the
requirements of the White Paper and the MoU as well with this sort
of "Top Down" structure.

Milton Mueller wrote:

 The impact of these amendments is to centralize too much power
 in the hands of the ICANN Board, at the expense of the DNSO and
 its constituents.

 The amendment to Section 2(a) of Article VI-B of the Bylaws
 allows the ICANN Board to resolve disputes about which member of
 a constituency is recognized as a Names Council member. Such
 disputes should be resolved by the constituency itself,
 according to their own rules.

 The amendment to Section 3(c) of Article VI-B of the Bylaws
 deals with two issues. On the question of geographical
 diversity, the ICANN Board has created distrust by its apparent
 willingness to make exceptions for trademark interests and other
 big business constituents. Once again, I would prefer not to see
 discretionary power in the hands of the board. Either enforce
 geographical diversity or don't. On the second question, while I
 agree with the provision that a constituency cannot have more NC
 representatives than it has members, I do not agree with
 limiting the number of nominations a member can make.

 The most objectionable proposal is the amendment to Section 2(f)
 of Article VI-B of the Bylaws. This allows a vote of the ICANN
 Board to remove duly elected Names Council members from office.
 Even with a 3/4 majority requirement, I see no justification for
 placing such power in the hands of the Board, at the expense of
 the DNSO constituency. Constituencies can develop their own
 methods for removing or disciplining errant NC members. There is
 too much potential for discrimination and abuse in this
 provision, which allows the ICANN Board on its own motion to
 reach into a constituency and remove one of its elected members.

 --
 m i l t o n   m u e l l e r // m u e l l e r @ s y r . e d u
 syracuse university  http://istweb.syr.edu/~mueller/

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208





Re: [IFWP] Proposed by-law amendments

1999-08-01 Thread Jeff Williams

Mikki and all,

  One wonders, doesn't one Mikki?  It might be worthwile for you to
elaborate in your own words as to what your thoughts are here.
I know what mine and INEGroups are, in this respect

Mikki Barry wrote:

 The most objectionable proposal is the amendment to Section 2(f)
 of Article VI-B of the Bylaws. This allows a vote of the ICANN
 Board to remove duly elected Names Council members from office.
 Even with a 3/4 majority requirement, I see no justification for
 placing such power in the hands of the Board, at the expense of
 the DNSO constituency. Constituencies can develop their own
 methods for removing or disciplining errant NC members. There is
 too much potential for discrimination and abuse in this
 provision, which allows the ICANN Board on its own motion to
 reach into a constituency and remove one of its elected members.

 What a marked contrast to the BWG and ORSC rules where board members could
 be removed.  Has this become blatently obvious yet as to what is actually
 going on?

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208





Re: [IFWP] Proposed by-law amendments

1999-08-01 Thread Michael Sondow

Milton Mueller a écrit:
 
 The impact of these amendments is to centralize too much power
 in the hands of the ICANN Board, at the expense of the DNSO and
 its constituents.

What difference does it make, when the DNSO and all its
constituencies are in the hands of the same people who appointed the
board? 

And you're still worried about the bylaws? How much proof do you
need that ICANN doesn't give a good goddamn about what its bylaws
say? But you're going to go on and on and on, discussing and arguing
over their worthless and meaningless bylaws, while they have stolen
the DNS and are forcing registrants to give up their constitutional
rights? 

What kind of bloody fool are you?


Michael Sondow   I.C.I.I.U. http://www.iciiu.org
Tel. (212)846-7482Fax: (603)754-8927