Javier and all, We agree that agreement can be reached, but not likely at Singapore. How many people do you actually are going to meet at Singapore anyway? I would estimate maybe 200 at most. That is hardly a indication of any kind of consensus. Javier SOLA wrote: > Anthony, > > I tend to disagree about having meetings on such short notice. There is no > way we can get to the States next week, then to Singapore, and try to get > some work done at our day jobs. I would rather push the Singapore meeting > on March 2nd and prepare it well. > > We know what the major differences are in the texts, and we also know what > these differences are in reality: power. > > All throughout this process we have learned to yield, and not to try to > have all the power. > > At this point my believe is that the only positions that are not acceptable > are those who want to give any member of the DNSO or any constituency more > power (power to block or veto) than the Board of Directors of ICANN. If we > understand that only this board has the final word, then we will reach an > agreement. Vetoing proposals before the reach the Board also fall in this > category. Any type of consultation that does not delay proposals forever > and therefore cannot be used as a blocking tool by any party should be more > than acceptable. > > If the goal is to have an operational body that hears all the parts before > proposing something to the board, I think that most of us agree. > > The only parties that we cannot reach an agreement with are those who claim > all power to themselves or who insist on creating a Names Council which > will never be operational, to maintain the status quo and not ever let > anything change. > > I personally believe that the only one who should vote in this whole > process are the users of the Internet, through their representatives, but I > understand that this is just the view of a user's representative, and have > had to negotiate and accept that other people have their share of power. > > What is unacceptable to me is that some other constituency would have the > power to block any improvements that we can bring for the users... we would > have wasted all the years that we have spent building ICANN. > > Javier > > At 19:52 10/02/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I would favor something before Singapore, so that if there is a significant > >blockage, we still will have time to deal with it. Florida next week is > >fine with me. > > > >Antony > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Bernard Turcotte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 6:03 PM > >> To: Ken Stubbs; Jay Fenello; Elisabeth Porteneuve; Don Tellage; David > >> Johnson; Antony Van Couvering; Roberto Gaetano; Kent Krispin; Jon > >> Englund; Joe A; Javier Solar; David Maher; Amadeu Abril i Abril; Theresa > >> Swinehart; Dennis Jennings; Bernard Turcotte; Fay Howard; Kilnam Chon; > >> Nii Quaynor; Oscar Robles-Garay > >> Cc: Mike Roberts > >> Subject: Report on conversation between JE and BT re merging proposals > >> > >> > >> All, > >> > >> Basically not much happened. > >> > >> Jon and I agreed that there will have to be a face to face meeting to > >> get these two proposals merged but neither of us could report a > >> concensus position from constituencies on how or when to do > >> this. > >> > >> I said I would try to put out a few mails describing the rationale > >> for some of the more contentious positions taken in the Paris draft > >> so people can discuss these. > >> > >> We agreed to keep each other appraised of any developments on either side. > >> > >> Jon is this pretty much what we covered? > >> > >> As I said previously next Wednesday Thursday in Florida is fine by me > >> but may be short notice, and the week after may be to close to > >> Singapore? So maybe we end up meeting in Sinpagore, which has always > >> been the back up plan. > >> > >> Bernard. > >> > >> Bernard. > >> > >> ====================================== > >> > >> Bernard Turcotte > >> Director Special Projects > >> CANARIE > >> > >> tel: +1.450.671.8539 > >> fax: +1.450.465.7986 > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208