Re: [pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-12 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 12 Dec 2014 06:19:37 NZDT +1300, Karl Fife wrote:

 The VPN should protect from all MITM attacks and snooping between
 the VPN client and server.
 
 This is a great idea, but I find that routing all traffic through
 VPN causes problems in marginal (lossy or congensted) networks.  I'm
 curious to know if others have also had this pain point, and whether
 you've had any success by simply sending VPN over TCP.

What you are seeing is the additional overhead of the VPN, both in
encapsulation and in delay. There is no way around that. I expect tcp to
be even worse (but able to detect missing packets). That's the price you
pay. Ideally I'd like to have flexible and user-friendly control over
what data goes over the VPN and which DNS is used. It happens that one
has to look up some hosts of the provider and can't tunnel the DNS,
which is always annoying.

It is possible that other VPNs, in particular IPsec, have lower
overheads.

Volker

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Re: [pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-11 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 did you configure tunnelblick to send *all* traffic to the vpn? if so, you
 have to add allow rules to the openvpn interface to permit that traffic,
 and probably set up a NAT on there as well.

If the network the client is connecting from (e.g. while travelling) is
in any way not totally trustworthy it would be prudent to at least route
the DNS traffic through the tunnel, if not all traffic. The VPN should
protect from all MITM attacks and snooping between the VPN client and
server.

Volker

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Re: [pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-11 Thread Kostas Backas
Agreed. That is the reason that I do not need it.
What I need is to find out why connected clients to vpn do not have Internet 
access.

Is it an issue with the tunnelblick client in os x or do I need to fix 
something in the Pfsense box?

Best regards

Kostas

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On 11 Δεκ 2014, at 12:11, Volker Kuhlmann hid...@paradise.net.nz wrote:

 did you configure tunnelblick to send *all* traffic to the vpn? if so, you
 have to add allow rules to the openvpn interface to permit that traffic,
 and probably set up a NAT on there as well.
 
 If the network the client is connecting from (e.g. while travelling) is
 in any way not totally trustworthy it would be prudent to at least route
 the DNS traffic through the tunnel, if not all traffic. The VPN should
 protect from all MITM attacks and snooping between the VPN client and
 server.
 
 Volker
 
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Re: [pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-11 Thread Vick Khera
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Kostas Backas kos...@i-system.gr wrote:

 Is it an issue with the tunnelblick client in os x or do I need to fix
 something in the Pfsense box?


We don't know what you did, still, so we have no clue. Did you or did you
not tell tunnelblick to send all traffic to the VPN tunnel?

In either case, you need to allow traffic you want on the OpenVPN tab of
the firewall rules. This should only affect traffic destined to the inside
of your tunnel not all internet traffic.
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Re: [pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-11 Thread Kostas Backas
Thank you,

I don't want to route all traffic. I just want to find out why connected 
clients cannot access the internet.

Best regards

Kostas

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11 Δεκ 2014, 7:19 μ.μ., ο/η Karl Fife karlf...@gmail.com έγραψε:

 The VPN should protect from all MITM attacks and snooping between the VPN 
 client and server.
 
 This is a great idea, but I find that routing all traffic through VPN causes 
 problems in marginal (lossy or congensted) networks.  I'm curious to know if 
 others have also had this pain point, and whether you've had any success by 
 simply sending VPN over TCP.
 
 
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Re: [pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-11 Thread Vick Khera
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Kostas Backas kos...@i-system.gr wrote:

 I don't want to route all traffic.


Ok we now know you don't want to do this. We still don't know if you
actualy did it on your client config.

Try this... On your mac, with the vpn on, run traceroute -n www.google.com
and see where the traffic goes. You could even show us if you would like
help interpreting it. If you can't get the DNS to resolve, then traceroute
-n 8.8.8.8.

If you're not going to actually answer technical requests for details, then
nobody can help you no matter how much they may want to.
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[pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-10 Thread Kostas Backas
Hello,

We are using openvpn with tunnelblick and viscosity clients in OS X.

Our main issue is that when the users are connected to the vpn, the cannot 
access the Internet.

I have tried to forward traffic through vpn, add DNS servers etc, but nothing 
worked.

How can I determine what keeps it from working?

Best regards

Kostas

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Re: [pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-10 Thread Ryan Coleman
Agreed - usually means there’s no route on the VPN server to handle outside 
traffic to the world.


 On Dec 10, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Vick Khera vi...@khera.org wrote:
 
 did you configure tunnelblick to send *all* traffic to the vpn? if so, you 
 have to add allow rules to the openvpn interface to permit that traffic, and 
 probably set up a NAT on there as well.
 
 it is easiest to not send all traffic there unless that is your goal to mask 
 your origin. my goal is to access internal resources to my office network, so 
 i do not configure tunnelblick that way.
 
 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Kostas Backas kos...@i-system.gr 
 mailto:kos...@i-system.gr wrote:
 Hello,
 
 We are using openvpn with tunnelblick and viscosity clients in OS X.
 
 Our main issue is that when the users are connected to the vpn, the cannot 
 access the Internet.
 
 I have tried to forward traffic through vpn, add DNS servers etc, but nothing 
 worked.
 
 How can I determine what keeps it from working?
 
 Best regards
 
 Kostas
 
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Re: [pfSense] OpenVPN connects fine, no internet

2014-12-10 Thread mayak


On 12/10/2014 11:38 PM, Kostas Backas wrote:

Thank you


my goal is to access internal resources to my office network, so i do not 
configure tunnelblick that way.

Mine too. I just need to have internet access while connected. I do not need to 
pass all traffic through the tunnel, I just tested if it works.

What other firewall rules are needed for this to work?

Best regards

Kostas

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10 Δεκ 2014, 9:26 μ.μ., ο/η Vick Khera vi...@khera.org έγραψε


perhaps this?
https://code.google.com/p/tunnelblick/wiki/cMountainLionDnsIssue

additionally, i seem to remember that this was a bug in some version of 
tunnelblick, but that was a while back ...

cheers

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