[REBOL] Rebol von Neumann properties (RIP ifs-for-whomever cont.) Re:(3)
Hi, If I understand your use of the term "evolving language" correctly, back in the 70's we used the term "extensible language" for the same thing (or something quite similar). That term implied that the programmer could: * add new syntactical structures (notation), * add new control structures, * create new datatypes and associated operations, and that having done so, * the extended language would appear as a whole language, without obvious "seams" between the core language and the extensions, and * there should not be a significant performance penalty for using the extensions. Extensible Language seems perfect. I don't think, that an Evolving Language must be able to do something like: a: [append a [+ 1] 1] do a (a von Neumann property - Pure Self Modifying Code), but I do think, that an Evolving language must be able to do: a: create-a-translation-of something do a , which may be described as a von Neumann property of the language too, but this is a code I would like to describe as a provision to understand Something with new syntactic/semantic rules (a new dialect, if you like, but it might not be a new dialect, but a new stage of the original language evolution). I believe I understand the distinction you're drawing here, but I must confess that I don't yet grasp HOW to enforce it without either performance penalties or loss of introspection. For example, if I imagine something like active-thing: load-to-read-only-code data-representation do active-thing ALONG WITH the ability to introspect interesting-property: obtain-state active-thing selector then wouldn't I be able to do this altered-property: mutate interesting-property active-thing: load-to-read-only-code replace/all interesting-property altered-property do active-thing and be right back with self-modification, albeit at a severely lowered performance? Have I missed something? The performance subject is very questionable, IMHO. I would call your sample a WYSIWYG code. Let's try to compare it with Pure SMC like: a: [append a [+ 1] 1] do a Don't you see any difference? If I would like to do it in a WYSIWYG fashion, I would have to write: a: [append a [+ 1] 1] do copy a Let's compare the results: the first case: a: [append a [+ 1] 1] == [append a [+ 1] 1] do a == 1 do a == 2 do a == 3 do a == 4 do a == 5 do a == 6 do a == 8 the second one: a: [append a [+ 1] 1] == [append a [+ 1] 1] do copy a == 1 do copy a == 2 do copy a == 3 do copy a == 4 do copy a == 5 do copy a == 6 do copy a == 7 do copy a == 8 do copy a == 9 do copy a == 10 Regards Ladislav
[REBOL] Port probing Re:(2)
Thanks Holger for the great feedback. I am gonna test this shortley to see if it accomplishes what I'm trying to do. I will post to the list what I find. Paul Tretter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] Port probing Re: On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:12:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I have to ports that I wait for data on how can I put them in a while or forever loop without locking up the console. If I had a if statement testing data received. That depends on the type of port and the version of REBOL you use. Assuming tcp, udp or serial ports opened with /direct, you can wait for multiple ports with wait [port1 port2] which returns one of the ports if it has data, none otherwise. To get a block of all ports returned instead of just a single port use wait/all (latest experimental version only). To just poll ports without blocking add a timeout of zero, i.e. try wait [port1 port2 0] Using a timeout of zero to poll only works with some old (pre-2.3) versions of REBOL (on some platforms) and with the latest experimental versions (on all platforms), but not with REBOL 2.3. Other types of ports currently do not support 'wait. Higher-level network ports (HTTP etc.) will probably support it in one of the next experimental versions, when opened with /direct. You may also want to look at the no-wait refinement for 'open. It guarantees that 'copy on a port never blocks, even if there is no data available on it (latest experimental version only). -- Holger Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[REBOL] Port probing Re:(2)
How do you open a console as a port? Paul Tretter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] Port probing Re: If I have two ports that I wait for data on how can I put them in a while or forever loop without locking up the console. If I had a if statement testing data received. How about opening the console as a port and include it in your wait? You'll need to check after the 'wait, to see if the event was a key or stuff from your other ports. Andrew Martin Turning it all inside out... ICQ: 26227169 http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/ --
[REBOL] FW: Mathematical Operations in REBOL
A colleague forwarded this set of comments/questions to me and I am forwarding to the REBOL list... When performing mathematical calculations, I've come across some interesting results, particularly with the modular division ( // ) operation. For example, if I perform e: 1.22 // 0.01 in REBOL, e will equal 9.92E-3. Although the answer is 0.01, or 1E-2, I can type e = 0.01 and true will be returned. While accepting 9.92E-3 is sufficient in most cases, I may be in trouble if I wanted to convert the value of e to a string, for example. Is there anyway to make this calculation return display 1E-2 exactly? I am using REBOL/Core Version 2.3.0.3.1. Thanx, -C. Hampton
[REBOL] Port probing Re:(2)
I tried play with this with this script while opening another console and inserting to those ports. I got no expected output. The core docs need to be updated to explain listening on more than one port. REBOL[] port1: open tcp://:55 port2: open tcp://:56 while [true][ wait [port1 port2 0] buffer1: first port1 buffer2: first port2 print buffer1 print buffer2 ] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] Port probing Re: On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:12:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I have to ports that I wait for data on how can I put them in a while or forever loop without locking up the console. If I had a if statement testing data received. That depends on the type of port and the version of REBOL you use. Assuming tcp, udp or serial ports opened with /direct, you can wait for multiple ports with wait [port1 port2] which returns one of the ports if it has data, none otherwise. To get a block of all ports returned instead of just a single port use wait/all (latest experimental version only). To just poll ports without blocking add a timeout of zero, i.e. try wait [port1 port2 0] Using a timeout of zero to poll only works with some old (pre-2.3) versions of REBOL (on some platforms) and with the latest experimental versions (on all platforms), but not with REBOL 2.3. Other types of ports currently do not support 'wait. Higher-level network ports (HTTP etc.) will probably support it in one of the next experimental versions, when opened with /direct. You may also want to look at the no-wait refinement for 'open. It guarantees that 'copy on a port never blocks, even if there is no data available on it (latest experimental version only). -- Holger Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[REBOL] FW: Mathematical Operations in REBOL Re:
Hi Doug, go to http://www.rebol.org/math/index.html and pick up a copy of Eric Long's decimal.r. He writes: Purpose: Contains functions for the manipulation of decimal values, packaged into the REAL object. These provide full support for native binary floating-point file IO, compatible with C, FORTRAN, etc. REBOL decimal and money values may also be saved and loaded with no roundoff error. This package is necessary because the standard REBOL representation of decimal values may round off one or two significant digits, and the rounding of money values is an even greater source of error. This script contains two more objects, IEEE and EMPIRICAL, which provide several functions useful for exploring how decimal values are represented as double floating point numbers, and for testing the inexactness of the REBOL comparison functions. Direct download link: http://www.rebol.org/math/decimal.r This may be exactly what your friend is looking for. Elan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A colleague forwarded this set of comments/questions to me and I am forwarding to the REBOL list... When performing mathematical calculations, I've come across some interesting results, particularly with the modular division ( // ) operation. For example, if I perform e: 1.22 // 0.01 in REBOL, e will equal 9.92E-3. Although the answer is 0.01, or 1E-2, I can type e = 0.01 and true will be returned. While accepting 9.92E-3 is sufficient in most cases, I may be in trouble if I wanted to convert the value of e to a string, for example. Is there anyway to make this calculation return display 1E-2 exactly? I am using REBOL/Core Version 2.3.0.3.1. Thanx, -C. Hampton
[REBOL] Port probing Re:(3)
How does the "view" function handle calls to other functions? I have the following scenario: testserver.r + REBOL [ title "Test Server" ] system/console/busy: none start-server: func [] [ server-port: open tcp://:8001 forever [ connection-port: first server-port wait connection-port data-recvd: copy connection-port if data-recvd none [ print data-recvd ] close connection-port clear data-recvd wait 00:00:01 ] ] view layout [ button "Startup" [start-server] button "Shutdown" [quit] size 200x200 ] +EOF--- testclient.r +-- REBOL [] send-message: :save view layout [ button "Send message" [ send-message tcp://localhost:8001 "Message test" ] button "Exit" [quit] ] +--EOF- The testserver.r starts and the window shows up. The user clicks on "Start server" and the server starts listening for messages. The testclient.r starts up and the user and send test messages by clicking on the button and as expected, the server displays the messages. However, at this point, REBOL/View isn't interactive anymore for the testserver.r reblet. How does blocking on a port affect View and how can one listen on a port and maintain interactivity in the window? --John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] Port probing Re:(2) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:55:23 -0500 I tried play with this with this script while opening another console and inserting to those ports. I got no expected output. The core docs need to be updated to explain listening on more than one port. REBOL[] port1: open tcp://:55 port2: open tcp://:56 while [true][ wait [port1 port2 0] buffer1: first port1 buffer2: first port2 print buffer1 print buffer2 ] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] Port probing Re: On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:12:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I have to ports that I wait for data on how can I put them in a while or forever loop without locking up the console. If I had a if statement testing data received. That depends on the type of port and the version of REBOL you use. Assuming tcp, udp or serial ports opened with /direct, you can wait for multiple ports with wait [port1 port2] which returns one of the ports if it has data, none otherwise. To get a block of all ports returned instead of just a single port use wait/all (latest experimental version only). To just poll ports without blocking add a timeout of zero, i.e. try wait [port1 port2 0] Using a timeout of zero to poll only works with some old (pre-2.3) versions of REBOL (on some platforms) and with the latest experimental versions (on all platforms), but not with REBOL 2.3. Other types of ports currently do not support 'wait. Higher-level network ports (HTTP etc.) will probably support it in one of the next experimental versions, when opened with /direct. You may also want to look at the no-wait refinement for 'open. It guarantees that 'copy on a port never blocks, even if there is no data available on it (latest experimental version only). -- Holger Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
[REBOL] Ports and system scaling ...
Hi, I would like to ask about possibility of REBOL system scalling. Let's assume following scenario: ... main rebol session running script similar to Sterling's reb-proxy.r. The script is storing connections in the block, running in loop and serving new connection. But - current aproach doesn't scale - how much connections is REBOL able to handle in one session? Maybe better question is - how much connection is effective to be handled by one task? Now probably the most fundamental question comes - is ti possible to launch new REBOL session (it is currently possible with 'launch function and will be possible in future by planned rebol multitasking capabilities) and send new session the connection to handle? E.g. - start new rebol session for each incoming 10 connections. Just curious, Thanks, -pekr-
[REBOL] Ports and system scaling ... Re:
Could someone post a sample script of two ports listening as with all do respect to Holger I just dont get it. I tried different ideas and can't seem to understand how. Paul Tretter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] Ports and system scaling ... Hi, I would like to ask about possibility of REBOL system scalling. Let's assume following scenario: ... main rebol session running script similar to Sterling's reb-proxy.r. The script is storing connections in the block, running in loop and serving new connection. But - current aproach doesn't scale - how much connections is REBOL able to handle in one session? Maybe better question is - how much connection is effective to be handled by one task? Now probably the most fundamental question comes - is ti possible to launch new REBOL session (it is currently possible with 'launch function and will be possible in future by planned rebol multitasking capabilities) and send new session the connection to handle? E.g. - start new rebol session for each incoming 10 connections. Just curious, Thanks, -pekr-
[REBOL] Lesson #1 - Round to a number at any given place
REBOL fella: Here is my first lesson for those who wish to do an exercise in order to better understand REBOL. Old saying: the more practice, the better programmer. Write a function that performs rounding to a number at any given place. Here are examples. to-round 123.45 == 123 to-round 123.55 == 124 to-round -123.45 == -123 to-round/at 123.344 2 == 123.34 to-round 123.345 2 == 123.35 to-round/at 12345 -2 == 12300 to-round/at (1.22 // .01) 2 == 1E-2 NOTE: the last one is to answer the earlier message on this list. Send your answer to my email at [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to this list. I'll reply with my solution. In a couple of days or so, I'll post the best solution with its author. Have fun! Geo (old professor)
[REBOL] New to the PC
Hello All: I've just got myself a windows machine. My Amiga has had problems (Simm sockets are messed up), so I was hoping someone would know of a good editor to use on Win95 (preferably free, as I hope to get my Amiga back up soon). Thanks to any and all that help! Regards, David C. P.S. - Linux isn't an option, as my Bios is flooky on the pc.
[REBOL] FTP and Absolute Directories
Some time ago I posted a question asking how I could ftp to a server and go to a directory that was not below my home directory. For example, I would like to ftp to another server here at work, and get a file located in /var/local/datamover/test1/. The problem is that Rebol seems to only let you specify relative directory paths below where you ftp in. So, if I use the ftp command and specify my user id and password, it will only let me reference a directory below my home directory. Perl, using the Net::FTP object lets me ftp using an absolute path. I'm hoping someone out there has an idea how I can do this in Rebol. I would really like to write this application in Rebol instead of Perl. Thanks in advance for the help! -- Jamey Cribbs
[REBOL] New to the PC Re:
Use EditPlus http://www.editplus.com It is shareware, but the demo is fully functional. Hello All: I've just got myself a windows machine. My Amiga has had problems (Simm sockets are messed up), so I was hoping someone would know of a good editor to use on Win95 (preferably free, as I hope to get my Amiga back up soon). Thanks to any and all that help! Regards, David C. P.S. - Linux isn't an option, as my Bios is flooky on the pc.
[REBOL] New to the PC Re:
Try the "free" editor at http://www.notetab.com/ especially nice if you are doing web pages -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] New to the PC Hello All: I've just got myself a windows machine. My Amiga has had problems (Simm sockets are messed up), so I was hoping someone would know of a good editor to use on Win95 (preferably free, as I hope to get my Amiga back up soon). Thanks to any and all that help! Regards, David C. P.S. - Linux isn't an option, as my Bios is flooky on the pc.
[REBOL] FTP and Absolute Directories Re:
Did you try "../../path/path/path/goodfile.txt" ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] FTP and Absolute Directories Some time ago I posted a question asking how I could ftp to a server and go to a directory that was not below my home directory. For example, I would like to ftp to another server here at work, and get a file located in /var/local/datamover/test1/. The problem is that Rebol seems to only let you specify relative directory paths below where you ftp in. So, if I use the ftp command and specify my user id and password, it will only let me reference a directory below my home directory. Perl, using the Net::FTP object lets me ftp using an absolute path. I'm hoping someone out there has an idea how I can do this in Rebol. I would really like to write this application in Rebol instead of Perl. Thanks in advance for the help! -- Jamey Cribbs
[REBOL] New to the PC Re:
Hi,
I use shareware GWD Text Editor (http://www.gwdsoft.com/)for REBOL
editing. I made a long list of predefined REBOL words, so it has a
crude form of syntax highlighting. But unfortunately it can't highlight
or escape {multiline {
"REBOL" ^}
strings} like this one correctly. It uses Microsoft's MFC library so
it's startup time is quite high. Other nice editor I have seen is
Edit+ (http://www.editplus.com/).
And, please, never use Windows Notepad. There are replacements that are
more powerful and shorter than Notepad itself, like Metapad
(http://welcome.to/metapad/)
But, I couldn't get really used to Windows or Linux editors, I still
miss the old Amiga CygnusEd and GoldEd :-(
hope this helps,
--
Michal Kracik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All:
I've just got myself a windows machine. My Amiga has had problems
(Simm sockets are messed up), so I was hoping someone would know of a
good editor to use on Win95 (preferably free, as I hope to get my
Amiga back up soon).
Thanks to any and all that help!
Regards,
David C.
P.S. - Linux isn't an option, as my Bios is flooky on the pc.
[REBOL] New to the PC Re:(2)
Not to start a holy war, but I am partial to VIM myself www.vim.org
[REBOL] FTP and Absolute Directories Re:(2)
Hey, that worked! I did: read ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/../../var/local/datamover/test1/testfile1 and it worked. Thanks very much for the help! On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote: Did you try "../../path/path/path/goodfile.txt" ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] FTP and Absolute Directories Some time ago I posted a question asking how I could ftp to a server and go to a directory that was not below my home directory. For example, I would like to ftp to another server here at work, and get a file located in /var/local/datamover/test1/. The problem is that Rebol seems to only let you specify relative directory paths below where you ftp in. So, if I use the ftp command and specify my user id and password, it will only let me reference a directory below my home directory. Perl, using the Net::FTP object lets me ftp using an absolute path. I'm hoping someone out there has an idea how I can do this in Rebol. I would really like to write this application in Rebol instead of Perl. Thanks in advance for the help! -- Jamey Cribbs -- Jamey Cribbs Sr. Technical Consultant
[REBOL] New to the PC Re:(2)
Hi,
Michal, I'll try the varius editors. However, like I said before.. I'm
using this pc until I can get my Miggy fixed. I don't think I can put up
with Outlook for very long, and I'll probably drop to my old 1200 on
occation anyway. MD-2 is far cleaner than Outlook.
Can't wait to see who does a real emailer in REBOL!And, Thanks again.
Not just to you, but to everyone who replied!
regards,
David C.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 5:26 PM
Subject: [REBOL] New to the PC Re:
Hi,
I use shareware GWD Text Editor (http://www.gwdsoft.com/)for REBOL
editing. I made a long list of predefined REBOL words, so it has a
crude form of syntax highlighting. But unfortunately it can't highlight
or escape {multiline {
"REBOL" ^}
strings} like this one correctly. It uses Microsoft's MFC library so
it's startup time is quite high. Other nice editor I have seen is
Edit+ (http://www.editplus.com/).
And, please, never use Windows Notepad. There are replacements that are
more powerful and shorter than Notepad itself, like Metapad
(http://welcome.to/metapad/)
But, I couldn't get really used to Windows or Linux editors, I still
miss the old Amiga CygnusEd and GoldEd :-(
hope this helps,
--
Michal Kracik
[REBOL] Function launch bug
Assuming you have three reblets: one.r, two.r, and three.r as shown below: one.r +-- REBOL [] print "I'm one!" launch "two.r" wait 00:01 two.r +-- REBOL [] print "I'm two!" launch "three.r" wait 00:01 three.r +-- REBOL [] print "I'm three!" wait 00:01 If you run rebol.exe and type "do %one.r", then one.r runs displaying it's message, two.r runs displaying it's message but three.r never runs. Only the first call to the function works.. subsequent calls in the launch processes are ignored. --John _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
[REBOL] cgi configuration with apache
I know this has been brought up several dozen times on this list. However I lost my archive due to an "accident" *grin* I was wondering how I setup rebol as a cgi wrapper. (httpd.conf entries and etc..) Jarrett
[REBOL] New to the PC Re:
Hi David, I use SynEdit! I found it on zdnet.com and it is free!! Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: [REBOL] New to the PC Hello All: I've just got myself a windows machine. My Amiga has had problems (Simm sockets are messed up), so I was hoping someone would know of a good editor to use on Win95 (preferably free, as I hope to get my Amiga back up soon). Thanks to any and all that help! Regards, David C. P.S. - Linux isn't an option, as my Bios is flooky on the pc.
[REBOL] Port probing Re:(4)
Hi John, You need to also add a port for view events. Using 'dispatch makes it easier to react to different ports. See note below about the attached script. ? dispatch USAGE: DISPATCH port-block DESCRIPTION: Wait for a block of ports. As events happen, dispatch port handler blocks. DISPATCH is a function value. ARGUMENTS: port-block -- Block of port handler pairs (port can be timeout too). (Type: block) ;- The attached View script communicates a message to each member in its client list. To use... Run 3 instances of the script and set the port numbers to 8001, 8002, 8003 Now anything you type in one will show in the other two. Hope this script helps someone. Cheers, Allen K REBOL [ Title: "View Peer Chat Demo" Author: "Allen Kamp" Purpose: "Simple peer-to-peer chat in View" status: "prototype" ] ;comments start of DirectPlay like gaming subsystem system/options/quiet: true system/console/busy: none host-address: does [system/network/host-address] host: does [system/network/host] clients: reduce [ host-address "8001" host-address "8002" host-address "8003" ] my-address: host-address port-num: 8001 message-port: none ; for view events event-port: open [scheme: 'event] set-message-port: func [ "Changes Port Address of Connection" port-id ][ if port? message-port [close message-port] message-port: open/direct join tcp:// [":" port-id] ] do-message: func [/local data newline? type address][ if none? data: copy first message-port [close message-port return 'break] newline?: does [either empty? converse/text [""][newline]] set [type address data] parse/all data "#" if data = "quit" [close message-port close event-port quit] append tail converse/text join newline? [address " - " data] show converse ] do-event: func [/local event][ event: first event-port if event/type = 'close [quit] do event ] tell-all: func [list [block!] data][ foreach [ip port-id] list [ if error? try [tell ip port-id data][print ["Error - No Connection" ip port-id]] ] ] tell: func [ip port-id data /local client][ client: open rejoin [tcp:// ip ":" port-id] insert client rejoin ['msg "#" ip ":" message-port/port-id "#" data] close client ] view/new layout [ across client-ip: txt join "IP " host-address navy 200 bold server-ip: field form port-num button "Set Port" [set-message-port server-ip/text] return converse: area 516 with [para: [wrap?: true]] v1: slider to-pair reduce [16 converse/size/y][scroll-para converse face] return below msg: field 516 button #"^M" "send" [ tell-all clients copy msg/text system/view/caret: head clear msg/text show msg ] ] set-message-port port-num dispatch [ message-port :do-message event-port :do-event ]
[REBOL] verify existence of a word Re:(2)
Thanks Al! Better to be wrong in the list than wrong in the release! :) Regards -Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two questions: 1) How may I query rebol to verify whether a word exists? 2) How may I query rebol to verify whether a member of an object exists? value? 'print == true value? 'antidisestablishmentarianism == false o: make object! [m: ""] in o 'antidisestablishmentarianism == none I'll betcha 1) answers 2). :) You'll be wrong! :-) Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/ --
[REBOL] Bang the REBOL Drum
just a quick note to say i`v just posted a `use REBOL` post in reply to some readers requests about Scripted FTP over on the comp.os.qnx NG, seeing as i dont really know REBOL codeing to any great degree, (i`m just looking after my Phx members interests) perhaps some of you trying out the RTP might pop over there and follow up on my post to try and convince the hard core developers and new RTP users alike that are massing around that NG and the qdn MLs the virtues of REBOL/* and how they might use it in their dayly lives ?. i`ll be looking out for your posts, even if i dont reply, band that REBOL /DRUM, they need to know about its power. ill start off: DRUM * Developers Realise Untaped Markets -- Paul May, Manchester, UK Team *Phoenix* Core
[REBOL] New to the PC Re:
I was hoping someone would know of a good editor to use on Win95 (preferably free, as I hope to get my Amiga back up soon). A free decent text editor and very good replacement for Windows Notepad is Metapad: http://welcome.to/metapad/ And if you want a free good Word Processor, Spreadsheet, database, etc, (and you afford a 80MB download, try Star Office at: http://www.sun.com and follow the link at the top. You'll need a reasonably fast machine as it's written in Java. Andrew Martin Who desperately wants Rebol to supplant Java... ICQ: 26227169 http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/ --
[REBOL] New to the PC Re:
Thanks to all, I've at least temporarily picked "syned." I really hope to have my Amiga back up soon, so I can use GoldED Studio again. Now, I can only hope the bug that keeps R/View from launching apps accross the internet on the Amiga is fixed soon ;o) Thanks again for all of the replies!!
[REBOL] Bang the REBOL Drum Re:
Hi Paul, For a quick intro and some handy shell scripts, you can point them to Jeff's recent article at http://www.unixreview.com/development/articles/0009ds.shtml I see QNX are going to be at ACE2K http://www.ace2k.net . I'll be running a stall there and banging the REBOL drum too. Melbourne REBOLs, why not pop in and say hello? I'll be happy to answer any QNX'rs questions about REBOL at the exhibition too. Cheers, Allen K Rebol Forces.. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:05 PM Subject: [REBOL] Bang the REBOL Drum just a quick note to say i`v just posted a `use REBOL` post in reply to some readers requests about Scripted FTP over on the comp.os.qnx NG, seeing as i dont really know REBOL codeing to any great degree, (i`m just looking after my Phx members interests) perhaps some of you trying out the RTP might pop over there and follow up on my post to try and convince the hard core developers and new RTP users alike that are massing around that NG and the qdn MLs the virtues of REBOL/* and how they might use it in their dayly lives ?. i`ll be looking out for your posts, even if i dont reply, band that REBOL /DRUM, they need to know about its power. ill start off: DRUM * Developers Realise Untaped Markets -- Paul May, Manchester, UK Team *Phoenix* Core
[REBOL] objects without overhead
I am working on a program which requires about 1000 or so instances of objects. It doesn't have to be OO but I like the design better that way. I am using a function as constructor like the following example (not real code..): ;I used dashes to keep formatting intact (hopefully this works) make_myobject: func[var1 var2 var3][ --return make object! [ instancevar1: var1 instancevar2: var2 instancevar3: var3 instancefunc1: func[][...] . . . -] ] The thing I don't like about this solution is that every instance of this object has duplicate copies of the functions (As far as I know...please correct me if I am wrong). This seems like a waste to me - especially if the object has 50 or so functions. Is there any OO way in Rebol to create multiple instances of this object without creating multiple copies of the functions associated with each object? I know how to do this in a non-object oriented fashion but would like to see an OO solution.
