[List admins] Re: Spam prevention

2023-11-16 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 1:11 AM Ciell Wikipedia 
wrote:

> In the old system we could use regex strings to avoid the most obvious
> spam: am I reading it correctly we should now enter these strings under the
> 'banned addresses' tab? Do we have a quick-guide on how to compose these
> strings? (I think my lists lost these settings in the upgrade, and my regex
> knowledge is insufficient to write them myself.)
>

I believe that is correct, and the details in this section should be
uptodate:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration#Auto-discarding_spam
(I.e. They were added after the Mailman3 migration, and edited by multiple
people, so hopefully any errors have already been corrected!)
However, they could perhaps be improved with more examples?
(If anyone has questions about specific examples, perhaps ask on the
talkpage there?)

Op do 16 nov 2023 om 03:23 schreef Platonides :
>
>> PS: I see some outdated pieces on
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration
>> 
>> that are no longer applicable on mailman 3
>>
>
Please boldly edit the page to remove/update anything inaccurate, or raise
concerns on the talkpage!
+1 to your other comments.

I hope that helps,
Quiddity
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[List admins] Re: False-positive probe messages?

2022-09-02 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 5:21 AM Federico Leva (Nemo) 
wrote:

> Il 19/11/21 14:00, Amir Sarabadani ha scritto:
> > Lots of spammers send spam or virus or phishing emails to
> > *-owner@ which mailman happily forwards to listadmins. But your server
> > (e.g. Gmail), actually rejects those emails
>
> For those users, who were presumably happy about receiving less spam,
> the probe messages themselves might look like an increase in spam.
>
> Maybe the probe message could be turned into something that actually
> contains useful information, for instance: "If you see messages come
> through the mailing list as expected, this may mean that your email
> provider blocked some unwanted messages from delivery, for instance
> spam: in that case, no action is required". Alternatively, that call to
> action "Please examine this message" etc. may be made less imperative.
>
> However it may not be worth optimising these messages if only few people
> are receiving them in spurious cases.
>
>
I get a probe bounce once/month or so, usually for wikitech-ambassadors@
After forgetting about this thread, I almost filed a phab task, to ask if
we could make the message clearer.
But then I re-found this thread, and per Nemo's thought that it might not
be worth the effort of a technical change (and thinking about future
software-maintenance/translations/etc), I decided to simply document it in
a new section onwiki.

I haven't marked the page as "ready for translation" yet, in case more
edits are needed for accuracy or clarity (please do!)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration#Mailing_list_probe_message
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[List admins] Re: Banned address still getting through

2022-08-05 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
Hi,
Re: Banning a domain - I think that regex you are using needs to be
changed.
As far as I know, the examples given here are all well-formed:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration#Auto-discarding_spam
(I added them there, after asking for help from others, so I hope so!)

Re: "non-members" - that's just an automated list of anyone who has ever
interacted with the list.[1] I believe we should leave the
spammer-addresses in there, but can change their moderation-settings to
"Discard".

[1]
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/model/docs/membership.html#nonmembers
- "Nonmembers are used to represent people who have posted to the mailing
list but are not subscribed to the mailing list. These may be legitimate
users who have found the mailing list and wish to interact without a direct
subscription, or they may be spammers who should never be allowed to
contact the mailing list."

Hope that helps!
Quiddity

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 2:57 AM GoEthe.wiki  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have banned an email address domain (with *+@sorter.ch) but I am still
> seeing emails from this sort of address getting through to moderation. What
> else do I need to do? I see there are some emails from this domain listed
> as non-members. Should I delete those?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [List admins] Removed myself as owner of the pywikibot* mailman lists

2017-05-04 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
A couple of thoughts:
There are 3 sections of questions related to reducing spam, at the bottom
of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mailing_lists/Administration if
anyone has tips/answers?

I've added details on a useful greasemonkey script (written by bd808), that
greatly speeds up the moderation process of discarding spam and adding
addresses to the auto-discard list, in a subsection of
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration#Tend_to_
pending_moderator_requests

HTH,


On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
wrote:

> Totally feel with you. I had to fully auto-reject non-members on other
> lists for the same reason.
>
> It would be helpful if more spam would be rejected right away (e.g. if a
> message is rejected/explicitely ignored in more than two mailing lists, you
> can ignore them elsewhere, too).
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Maarten Dammers <maar...@mdammers.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> For quite some time I have been one of the people maintaining and
>> moderating the different Pywikibot mailman lists. Over time the amount of
>> junk (spam) coming in through the -owner addresses of these lists has
>> increased a lot. My impression is that the people in charge of maintaining
>> mailman are not doing enough to fight this kind of abuse. I'm so annoyed by
>> this I decided now is a good time to stop maintaining mailman lists and
>> spend my time on something more fulfilling.
>>
>> Maarten
>>
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Re: [List admins] Cant login to list

2016-12-03 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
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