Re: [WSG] Does this hurt accessibility
Read http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/12/29/wordpresscom-please-stop-using-snap-preview/ Lorelle gives couple of examples of how it impacts on low vision users. -- Nick Cowie http://nickcowie.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Does this hurt accessibility
In addition, I found a site the other day that used popups like this - I don't know if it was the same service, but it was similar - where it was actually preventing me from right-clicking on the links. Very annoying. On 1/5/07, Steve Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I expect this will degrade the experience for anyone using a screen magnifier. We find that even relatively small tooltips hide a large proportion of the viewport when using magnification levels above x3, and these popups are a lot bigger. A magnifier user will typically move around the page by dragging the mouse to one edge of the screen (they only use the scrollbars when they reach the edge of the page), so they will often hover over links unintentionally, particularly graphical links since they are typically bigger than text links. I think it would be quite unpleasant to have these things pop up all the time, especially as they may entirely fill the viewport. Steve Green Director Test Partners Ltd / First Accessibility www.testpartners.co.uk www.accessibility.co.uk -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John S. Britsios Sent: 05 January 2007 04:14 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Does this hurt accessibility Dear members, We are thinking of implementing this service http://www.snap.com/about/spa1A.php on our web site, and our question is, if you think that it can hurt our site accessibility in someway? We sure will implement the tag if that solves the problem. Thanks a lot for your kind suppport. Best wishes, John -- John S. Britsios Web Architect & Business Consultant Webnauts Net & SEO Workers (Main Office) Koblenzer Str. 37A D-33613 Bielefeld Webnauts Net & SEO Workers (U.S. Office) 5 Ivanhoe Drive Urbana IL 61802 http://www.webnauts.net http://www.seoworkers.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Kay Smoljak business: www.cleverstarfish.com standards: kay.zombiecoder.com coldfusion: kay.smoljak.com personal: goatlady.wordpress.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Does this hurt accessibility
I expect this will degrade the experience for anyone using a screen magnifier. We find that even relatively small tooltips hide a large proportion of the viewport when using magnification levels above x3, and these popups are a lot bigger. A magnifier user will typically move around the page by dragging the mouse to one edge of the screen (they only use the scrollbars when they reach the edge of the page), so they will often hover over links unintentionally, particularly graphical links since they are typically bigger than text links. I think it would be quite unpleasant to have these things pop up all the time, especially as they may entirely fill the viewport. Steve Green Director Test Partners Ltd / First Accessibility www.testpartners.co.uk www.accessibility.co.uk -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John S. Britsios Sent: 05 January 2007 04:14 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Does this hurt accessibility Dear members, We are thinking of implementing this service http://www.snap.com/about/spa1A.php on our web site, and our question is, if you think that it can hurt our site accessibility in someway? We sure will implement the tag if that solves the problem. Thanks a lot for your kind suppport. Best wishes, John -- John S. Britsios Web Architect & Business Consultant Webnauts Net & SEO Workers (Main Office) Koblenzer Str. 37A D-33613 Bielefeld Webnauts Net & SEO Workers (U.S. Office) 5 Ivanhoe Drive Urbana IL 61802 http://www.webnauts.net http://www.seoworkers.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Does this hurt accessibility
On 1/4/07, John S. Britsios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear members, We are thinking of implementing this service http://www.snap.com/about/spa1A.php on our web site, and our question is, if you think that it can hurt our site accessibility in someway? We sure will implement the tag if that solves the problem. In practice they don't seem inaccessible in the sense that they would make your site inaccessible to users, but at the same time, on every site where I have seen these so far, they are just annoying and slow things down. They are almost as annoying as popup ads, and there isn't much use to having a picture preview of a link you are hovering over. And as Matthew said, that sudden movement can be jarring for users. -- -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Does this hurt accessibility
Quoth John S. Britsios at 01/05/07 14:44... > We are thinking of implementing this service > http://www.snap.com/about/spa1A.php on our web site, > and our question is, if you think that it can hurt our site > accessibility in someway? As this appears to use some sort of pop-up, I would like to think that users can control their experience by being able to turn this off. (If I found this on a site, I would use Adblock to kill the scripts. I can't cope with any form of movement on the screen, especially when big chunks like this jump into view unanticipated.) Or better still, have it off by default and invite the user to "enable previews". Cheers M -- Matthew Smith IT Consultancy & Web Application Development Business: http://www.kbc.net.au/ Personal: http://www.smiffysplace.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/smiffy *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Does this hurt accessibility
Dear members, We are thinking of implementing this service http://www.snap.com/about/spa1A.php on our web site, and our question is, if you think that it can hurt our site accessibility in someway? We sure will implement the tag if that solves the problem. Thanks a lot for your kind suppport. Best wishes, John -- John S. Britsios Web Architect & Business Consultant Webnauts Net & SEO Workers (Main Office) Koblenzer Str. 37A D-33613 Bielefeld Webnauts Net & SEO Workers (U.S. Office) 5 Ivanhoe Drive Urbana IL 61802 http://www.webnauts.net http://www.seoworkers.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
