Re: [WSG] Mac favour
Hi John It renders fine in Opera 9.01 on Mac OS X 10.4.8. I agree with Nikita - more contrast would help, particularly since visited links are sorta lilic on lilic. You might want to think about a [Skip navigation] link at the start of the navigation. Otherwise people using screen readers are going to hear Home, Product Range, Trade Fairs, Stockists, Enquiries, Links, Partners at the start of every page. Also, I'm not sure about the 'click here' links. Anyone trying to scan the page by just jumping from link to link is going to see: click here ... click here ... clicking here. And on the Product Range page, http://www.lilaccoast.co.uk/product_range.htm you might want to improve your alt tags. Currently you have click to see our Blossom range, click to see our Grape range, etc. You might want to consider just trying Our Blossom range, Our Grape range, etc. Hope that this is of some help. -- Jonathan O'Donnell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod +61 4 2575 5829 On 22/01/2007, at 5:23 AM, Nikita The Spider wrote: On 1/21/07, John 'Max' Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone out there with a MAC take a look at this website and tell me if it renders happily in Opera and/or IE5 etc?? www.lilaccoast.co.uk Hi Max, Looks good here with Safari and Firefox, even with JS turned off. The text on some of the pages is pretty low-contrast, though. The home page is a good example. Darker text, please! I'm protanopic (can distinguish fewer shades of red green than most people) which might have something to do with it. Opera runs on many platforms; I don't know that I'd expect any different rendering on a Mac. Also, Safari's rendering engine (Webkit) is based on KHTML from Konqueror. As time goes by they're probably diverging more and more (maybe they're more like cousins than siblings now), but if you're stuck in Windows, firing up a Linux Live CD (or having a dual boot partition) is a low-commitment way to see how your sites render with KHTML which might also give you a hint as to how it renders with Webkit. -- Philip http://NikitaTheSpider.com/ Whole-site HTML validation, link checking and more *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mac favour
Heya, just to tell I am taking part a little in porting / testing some stuffs with Fink. (http://fink.sourceforge.net) It is really wonderful. From a web point of view, with Fink you can run Konqueror / Galeon and other tools under native Mac OS X as even Incutio said (http:// css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BrowserTesting) I advise every one / web agency to consider catching a Mac even 'older' with Mac OS X (Panther minimum will be nice) You can run a Mac OS 9.2 if need be Today in France I found a shop specialized in Mac, lend return, expo models, etc... and you can get one in a correct price. I have just bought a G4 768Mg Ram, CD/DVD, 20 Giga, Mac OS X Tiger default installed, a Jaguar DVD Package I am going to install. That's enough for testing. Mac is still expensive but the community seems to be strong. And do not forget : with the last OS - Unix Power :D I don't want to be mad and I am not active since a long time but I took part in 'favours' in the past that created troubles on the list. Take care. If there are too much favours, and enough volunteers, why not creating a WSG testing community ? Regards, Peter Wcube . eQuesto Pierre-Henri LAVIGNE Web developer xhtml - css 33, rue des Jeûneurs - FR 75002 Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +33(0)1 42 47 83 83 www.wcube.fr / www.equesto.fr On Jan 21, 2007, at 6:58 PM, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Hi All, Can anyone out there with a MAC take a look at this website and tell me if it renders happily in Opera and/or IE5 etc?? www.lilaccoast.co.uk In fact – I guess any anomalies in any browser would be good to know about ;-) Many thanks, Max. The Pig Farmer Designs Ltd www.thepigfarmer.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Mac favour
Hi All, Can anyone out there with a MAC take a look at this website and tell me if it renders happily in Opera and/or IE5 etc?? www.lilaccoast.co.uk In fact - I guess any anomalies in any browser would be good to know about ;-) Many thanks, Max. The Pig Farmer Designs Ltd www.thepigfarmer.com http://www.thepigfarmer.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mac favour
On 1/21/07, John 'Max' Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone out there with a MAC take a look at this website and tell me if it renders happily in Opera and/or IE5 etc?? www.lilaccoast.co.uk Hi Max, Looks good here with Safari and Firefox, even with JS turned off. The text on some of the pages is pretty low-contrast, though. The home page is a good example. Darker text, please! I'm protanopic (can distinguish fewer shades of red green than most people) which might have something to do with it. Opera runs on many platforms; I don't know that I'd expect any different rendering on a Mac. Also, Safari's rendering engine (Webkit) is based on KHTML from Konqueror. As time goes by they're probably diverging more and more (maybe they're more like cousins than siblings now), but if you're stuck in Windows, firing up a Linux Live CD (or having a dual boot partition) is a low-commitment way to see how your sites render with KHTML which might also give you a hint as to how it renders with Webkit. -- Philip http://NikitaTheSpider.com/ Whole-site HTML validation, link checking and more *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mac favour
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Can anyone out there with a MAC take a look at this website and tell me if it renders happily in Opera and/or IE5 etc?? www.lilaccoast.co.uk In fact – I guess any anomalies in any browser would be good to know about ;-) Here are a few linux and mac (safari ie/5.2) captures: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=316434 XP It appears ok in opera/9.02. If it is of any concern, the text links /may/ be dropping out of the nav bar early in ff at +2. The nav bar itself is breaking a little at text-size largest in ie 6.0-- screen shot: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/lilac.gif Max. Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***