RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Bennett
Hi Cole,

I dunno if I can SOLVE it (and I see the problem in IE), but instead of
conditional comments couldn't you use Tanta's box-model hack to serve
the bottom negative margin to IE?

http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html

I know it's still a hack, but due to the discrepancies between gecko and
IE box models it may be the only way?

Paul


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Re: [WSG] OT - but really need help

2006-06-14 Thread del usr
Have you tried conditional comments??Place this in the head section of your code and change the div_name to whatever it should be.!--[if IE]	style type=text/css
		#div_name {bottom: -4px;}	/style![endif]--More info:http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.htmlOn 6/15/06, Cole Kuryakin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I know this type of question is off topic for this list, but I've almost
pulled the last of my hairs out over this problem.If anyone can help me solve it, I'd be VERY greatful.Here's the link: http://www.x7m.us/_problems/problem.htm
Layout displays as per spec in FF, Netscape, Opera. But look at it in IE andyou'll see the y-repeated background in both the #nav_bar and #content divsare increasing the height of the wrapper by about 3px.
IE 3px bug? Peekaboo bug? That's what I thought, as the wrapper does contain2 floated divs. But I've tried every solution I've found on the net for thisproblem yet the issue persists.The only thing that works is declaring bottom: -4px; to both #nav_footer
and #content_footer. Of course, this screws-up footer area big-time in FF,N, and O.Is there something I've overlooked and/or am doing wrong? Or is this simplythe perfect scenario to implement IE conditional comments in order to alter
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RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help

2006-06-14 Thread Cole Kuryakin








Del 



I have tried IE CC, and it does work for
my purposes. Thanks for weighing in. I was really wondering if I was doing
something wrong in the CSS to cause this, or if its just the nature of
the beast (IE) thats causing the problem.



So, so-far, IE CC is the way Ill go
unless someone can say: Hey Cole, this is what youre doing wrong
with your css. Do ***this*** and itll be fixed without the need to use
IE CC



Cole











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AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] OT - but really
need help





Have you tried conditional comments??

Place this in the head section of your code and change the div_name to whatever
it should be.



!--[if IE]
 style type=text/css
 #div_name {bottom: -4px;}
 /style
![endif]--

More info:


 http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp
 
 http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html




On 6/15/06, Cole
Kuryakin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I know this type of question is off topic for this list, but I've
almost 
pulled the last of my hairs out over this problem.

If anyone can help me solve it, I'd be VERY greatful.

Here's the link: http://www.x7m.us/_problems/problem.htm


Layout displays as per spec in FF, Netscape, Opera. But look at it in IE and
you'll see the y-repeated background in both the #nav_bar and #content divs
are increasing the height of the wrapper by about 3px. 

IE 3px bug? Peekaboo bug? That's what I thought, as the wrapper does contain
2 floated divs. But I've tried every solution I've found on the net for this
problem yet the issue persists.

The only thing that works is declaring bottom: -4px; to
both #nav_footer 
and #content_footer. Of course, this screws-up footer area big-time in FF,
N, and O.

Is there something I've overlooked and/or am doing wrong? Or is this simply
the perfect scenario to implement IE conditional comments in order to alter 
the rules for the sake of IE?

Great appreciation to everyone in advance,

Cole


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RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help

2006-06-14 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Thanks Paul. I'll take a look. I try to stay away from hacks as much as
possible, but I'll give it a look. Thanks for the link.

Cole

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:41 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help

Hi Cole,

I dunno if I can SOLVE it (and I see the problem in IE), but instead of
conditional comments couldn't you use Tanta's box-model hack to serve
the bottom negative margin to IE?

http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html

I know it's still a hack, but due to the discrepancies between gecko and
IE box models it may be the only way?

Paul


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Re: [WSG] OT - but really need help

2006-06-14 Thread Matt Fitzwater
why not solve it by adding a surrounding div#nav_footer and the 
#content_footer , I think it's your only option with ie?


IE bites.

Cole Kuryakin wrote:


Thanks Paul. I'll take a look. I try to stay away from hacks as much as
possible, but I'll give it a look. Thanks for the link.

Cole

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Subject: RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help

Hi Cole,

I dunno if I can SOLVE it (and I see the problem in IE), but instead of
conditional comments couldn't you use Tanta's box-model hack to serve
the bottom negative margin to IE?

http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html

I know it's still a hack, but due to the discrepancies between gecko and
IE box models it may be the only way?

Paul


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Re: [WSG] OT - but really need help

2006-06-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Cole Kuryakin wrote:
So, so-far, IE CC is the way I'll go unless someone can say: Hey 
Cole, this is what you're doing wrong with your css. Do ***this*** 
and it'll be fixed without the need to use IE CC


:-)

I just did.

Covering up for one of IE's many whitespace bugs is *not* necessary,
when you can make the whitespace bug go away.

Georg
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http://www.gunlaug.no


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