RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help
Hi Cole, I dunno if I can SOLVE it (and I see the problem in IE), but instead of conditional comments couldn't you use Tanta's box-model hack to serve the bottom negative margin to IE? http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html I know it's still a hack, but due to the discrepancies between gecko and IE box models it may be the only way? Paul ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] OT - but really need help
Have you tried conditional comments??Place this in the head section of your code and change the div_name to whatever it should be.!--[if IE] style type=text/css #div_name {bottom: -4px;} /style![endif]--More info:http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.htmlOn 6/15/06, Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I know this type of question is off topic for this list, but I've almost pulled the last of my hairs out over this problem.If anyone can help me solve it, I'd be VERY greatful.Here's the link: http://www.x7m.us/_problems/problem.htm Layout displays as per spec in FF, Netscape, Opera. But look at it in IE andyou'll see the y-repeated background in both the #nav_bar and #content divsare increasing the height of the wrapper by about 3px. IE 3px bug? Peekaboo bug? That's what I thought, as the wrapper does contain2 floated divs. But I've tried every solution I've found on the net for thisproblem yet the issue persists.The only thing that works is declaring bottom: -4px; to both #nav_footer and #content_footer. Of course, this screws-up footer area big-time in FF,N, and O.Is there something I've overlooked and/or am doing wrong? Or is this simplythe perfect scenario to implement IE conditional comments in order to alter the rules for the sake of IE?Great appreciation to everyone in advance,Cole**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help
Del I have tried IE CC, and it does work for my purposes. Thanks for weighing in. I was really wondering if I was doing something wrong in the CSS to cause this, or if its just the nature of the beast (IE) thats causing the problem. So, so-far, IE CC is the way Ill go unless someone can say: Hey Cole, this is what youre doing wrong with your css. Do ***this*** and itll be fixed without the need to use IE CC Cole From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of del usr Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:42 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] OT - but really need help Have you tried conditional comments?? Place this in the head section of your code and change the div_name to whatever it should be. !--[if IE] style type=text/css #div_name {bottom: -4px;} /style ![endif]-- More info: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html On 6/15/06, Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this type of question is off topic for this list, but I've almost pulled the last of my hairs out over this problem. If anyone can help me solve it, I'd be VERY greatful. Here's the link: http://www.x7m.us/_problems/problem.htm Layout displays as per spec in FF, Netscape, Opera. But look at it in IE and you'll see the y-repeated background in both the #nav_bar and #content divs are increasing the height of the wrapper by about 3px. IE 3px bug? Peekaboo bug? That's what I thought, as the wrapper does contain 2 floated divs. But I've tried every solution I've found on the net for this problem yet the issue persists. The only thing that works is declaring bottom: -4px; to both #nav_footer and #content_footer. Of course, this screws-up footer area big-time in FF, N, and O. Is there something I've overlooked and/or am doing wrong? Or is this simply the perfect scenario to implement IE conditional comments in order to alter the rules for the sake of IE? Great appreciation to everyone in advance, Cole ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help
Thanks Paul. I'll take a look. I try to stay away from hacks as much as possible, but I'll give it a look. Thanks for the link. Cole -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Bennett Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:41 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help Hi Cole, I dunno if I can SOLVE it (and I see the problem in IE), but instead of conditional comments couldn't you use Tanta's box-model hack to serve the bottom negative margin to IE? http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html I know it's still a hack, but due to the discrepancies between gecko and IE box models it may be the only way? Paul ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] OT - but really need help
why not solve it by adding a surrounding div#nav_footer and the #content_footer , I think it's your only option with ie? IE bites. Cole Kuryakin wrote: Thanks Paul. I'll take a look. I try to stay away from hacks as much as possible, but I'll give it a look. Thanks for the link. Cole -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Bennett Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:41 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] OT - but really need help Hi Cole, I dunno if I can SOLVE it (and I see the problem in IE), but instead of conditional comments couldn't you use Tanta's box-model hack to serve the bottom negative margin to IE? http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html I know it's still a hack, but due to the discrepancies between gecko and IE box models it may be the only way? Paul ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] OT - but really need help
Cole Kuryakin wrote: So, so-far, IE CC is the way I'll go unless someone can say: Hey Cole, this is what you're doing wrong with your css. Do ***this*** and it'll be fixed without the need to use IE CC :-) I just did. Covering up for one of IE's many whitespace bugs is *not* necessary, when you can make the whitespace bug go away. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **