[WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread CK

Hi,

Hope I don't have cooties (an imaginary bug that as children, we  
would avoid the person with) :)


The following rule has failed to reach the desired  in the following
dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}

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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Lea de Groot

CK wrote:

dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}


I know that one!
dd is a sibling of dt, not a child, so try:
dl#contact dd a {border: 1px solid black}

:)
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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Hopkins Programming
Perhaps the dl#contact is not needed?On 3/29/06, CK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Ben Wong
On 3/30/06, CK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Hope I don't have cooties (an imaginary bug that as children, we
> would avoid the person with) :)
>
> The following rule has failed to reach the desired  in the following
> dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}

dt#contact is redundant. You don't need it because dt#email is like
the highlander (there can only be one).

dd a aren't children of dt#email.

>
> Contact us
>   
> Tech Support Issues:
> Support Options
> Email:
> Chuck
> Ramblin'
>  Telephone:
> Call Tacticalware:
>  Snail Mail:
> Tacticalware Computer
>  
>


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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Nick Gleitzman


On 30 Mar 2006, at 10:01 AM, CK wrote:


dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}

Contact us
 
Tech Support Issues:
 	Support Options

Email:
Chuck
Ramblin'
Telephone:
Call Tacticalware:
Snail Mail:
Tacticalware Computer




 is not a child of dt#email - it's a child of dl#contact. Remove 
dt#email from your rule.


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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Richard Czeiger
I don't think you can get to that  in particular and ONLY that one 
without assigning it a class or ID.
PS: I hope we're talking about hitting the anchor for "Chuck" and only that 
one, yeah?


R

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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] getting an "a"


On 3/30/06, CK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Hope I don't have cooties (an imaginary bug that as children, we
would avoid the person with) :)

The following rule has failed to reach the desired  in the following
dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}


dt#contact is redundant. You don't need it because dt#email is like
the highlander (there can only be one).

dd a aren't children of dt#email.



Contact us
  
Tech Support Issues:
Support Options
Email:
Chuck
Ramblin'
 Telephone:
Call Tacticalware:
 Snail Mail:
Tacticalware Computer
 




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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread russ - maxdesign
> The following rule has failed to reach the desired  in the following
> dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}
> 

That is an incorrect path. The  does not sit inside the . Instead,
the  and the  are siblings that share the same parent - the 
(who I have heard is a very poor parent and doesn't look after his children
well at all!).

The correct path would be:
dl#contact dd a {border: 1px solid black}

Best to always draw a document tree if you get stuck, then it is easy to see
that these two elements sit side by side.

If you want to target the  element inside a specific , then you'd
have to add another class or id.

HTH

Russ
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RE: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Ted Drake
The dd is a child of the dl, not the dt.
Simply remove the dt

-Original Message-
From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:02 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] getting an "a"

Hi,

Hope I don't have cooties (an imaginary bug that as children, we  
would avoid the person with) :)

The following rule has failed to reach the desired  in the following
dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}

Contact us
  
Tech Support Issues:
Support Options
Email:
Chuck
Ramblin'
 Telephone:
Call Tacticalware:
 Snail Mail:
Tacticalware Computer
 

What have I missed in drilling down to the 
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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread CK

Hi,

So given that fact to get to the desired  I should use:
dl#contact dd.email a { margin: 0 0 -2em 0; border:1px solid black}

...
Chuck
   Ramblin'
.


On Mar 29, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Lea de Groot wrote:


CK wrote:

dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}


I know that one!
dd is a sibling of dt, not a child, so try:
dl#contact dd a {border: 1px solid black}

:)
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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Kevin Futter
On 30/3/06 12:17 PM, "russ - maxdesign" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Russ
> HTML element family councillor

Of course, Russ means "family counsellor" :-)

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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Nick Gleitzman
Well, yeah - although CKs' original post didn't make that clear. Move 
the id='email' from the  to the desired  - and if more than one 
of them needs the border, make it a class instead...


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On 30 Mar 2006, at 10:22 AM, Richard Czeiger wrote:

Won't this then hit all the s in side all the s instead of just 
Chuck's ?


R

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On 30 Mar 2006, at 10:01 AM, CK wrote:


dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}

Contact us
 
 Tech Support Issues:
 Support Options

 Email:
 Chuck
 Ramblin'
Telephone:
 Call Tacticalware:
Snail Mail:
 Tacticalware Computer




 is not a child of dt#email - it's a child of dl#contact. Remove 
dt#email from your rule.


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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread CK

Hi,

Would these relationships be explained in the w3C specifications? If  
not what would be the best method for creating the document tree  
diagrams?



Bowing Humbly To The Master
CK


On Mar 29, 2006, at 5:17 PM, russ - maxdesign wrote:

Best to always draw a document tree if you get stuck, then it is  
easy to see

that these two elements sit side by side.


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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Nick Gleitzman

Kevin Futter wrote:




Russ
HTML element family councillor


Of course, Russ means "family counsellor" :-)


Not if he was laying down the law...

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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread CK

Hi,

Both are desired, but I was being uptight about the line-height.  
Which could pass as is.


Chris
On Mar 29, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Richard Czeiger wrote:

I don't think you can get to that  in particular and ONLY that  
one without assigning it a class or ID.
PS: I hope we're talking about hitting the anchor for "Chuck" and  
only that one, yeah?


R

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] getting an "a"


On 3/30/06, CK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Hope I don't have cooties (an imaginary bug that as children, we
would avoid the person with) :)

The following rule has failed to reach the desired  in the  
following

dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}


dt#contact is redundant. You don't need it because dt#email is like
the highlander (there can only be one).

dd a aren't children of dt#email.



Contact us
  
Tech Support Issues:
Support Options
Email:
Chuck
Ramblin'
 Telephone:
Call Tacticalware:
 Snail Mail:
Tacticalware Computer
 




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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Lea de Groot

CK wrote:
Would these relationships be explained in the w3C specifications? If not 
what would be the best method for creating the document tree diagrams?


Personally, I would install Firefox and use the DOM Inspector - best 
thing since sliced bread!

(Under Tools, if you haven't found it yet :))

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Re: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Lachlan Hunt

CK wrote:

Would these relationships be explained in the w3C specifications?


Yes.  See the HTML, XML, SGML, CSS and DOM related specs.


what would be the best method for creating the document tree diagrams?


Drawing diagrams requires some highly specialised equipment known as 
pencil and paper.


To draw a tree diagram of an HTML document, just start with the root 
element (or any convenient parent of the section you're interested in) 
and then draw branches with one child at the end, and then repeat fo r.


e.g.

DD
 +-DT
 |  +-#text
 |
 +-DD
 |  +-A
 |+-#text
 |
 +-DT
 |  +-...
 +-...

There's even a tree diagram  showing the same kind of structure in the 
CSS 2.1 spec.

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/conform.html#user-agent

Alternatively, you can use the DOM inspector in Firefox which shows that 
kind of structure for the entire document.


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Re: [WSG] getting an "a" - document trees

2006-03-29 Thread russ - maxdesign
An elegantly worded sentence on document trees:
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/conform.html#doctree

Or, for those who struggled with the concept of document trees (or any plant
matter) there is a simpler explanation here:

http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_tree.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_ancestor.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_descendant.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_parent.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_child.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_sibling.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_multiple.htm

> Bowing Humbly To The Master

Dunno who this was aimed at but I ain't no master.
No pebbles in this hand to snatch!
I can't even spell, it seems  :)
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Re: [WSG] getting an "a" - document trees

2006-03-29 Thread CK

Hi,

It is rare laughing so hard, while learning so much. This thread has  
been an enlightening side-splitter.



Thanks All,
CK (Grasshopper)
On Mar 29, 2006, at 6:03 PM, russ - maxdesign wrote:


An elegantly worded sentence on document trees:
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/conform.html#doctree

Or, for those who struggled with the concept of document trees (or  
any plant

matter) there is a simpler explanation here:

http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_tree.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_ancestor.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_descendant.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_parent.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_child.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_sibling.htm
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/document_multiple.htm


Bowing Humbly To The Master


Dunno who this was aimed at but I ain't no master.
No pebbles in this hand to snatch!
I can't even spell, it seems  :)
Russ


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sibling rivalry: was-RE: [WSG] getting an "a"

2006-03-29 Thread Ted Drake
Of course, you dould try 
dl#contact dt#email + dd a {border:1px solid black;}

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/articles/webrev/27a.html 

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> The following rule has failed to reach the desired  in the following
> dl#contact dt#email dd a {border: 1px solid black}
> 

That is an incorrect path. The  does not sit inside the . Instead,
the  and the  are siblings that share the same parent - the 
(who I have heard is a very poor parent and doesn't look after his children
well at all!).

The correct path would be:
dl#contact dd a {border: 1px solid black}

Best to always draw a document tree if you get stuck, then it is easy to see
that these two elements sit side by side.

If you want to target the  element inside a specific , then you'd
have to add another class or id.

HTH

Russ
HTML element family councillor



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