[FLEAA] US drops car fuel cell research

2009-05-12 Thread Frank Leslie
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/science/earth/08energy.html?hpw 

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That approach was hideously expensive.

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Re: [FLEAA] US drops car fuel cell research

2009-05-12 Thread Bryan S Wall
Interesting piece
Note: okay to use hydrogen for power plants, but not for cars???

He said he would probably reverse another Bush administration decision and
restore funds for FutureGen, a program to build a power plant prototype. The
plant would turn coal into gas, separate out the carbon dioxide - a major
contributor to the greenhouse gases that cause global warming - and pump it
underground. Then it would burn the hydrogen, which is nearly
pollution-free.

Bryan Wall
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/science/earth/08energy.html?hpw 

 has details. 

That approach was hideously expensive.

Frank

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Re: [FLEAA] US drops car fuel cell research

2009-05-12 Thread fran sullivan-fahs
Hurrah, Frank! I am so glad that we have stepped out that huge sucking 
vortex of wasted dollars! Thanks for pointing that out to us. Fran  The EVI
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/science/earth/08energy.html?hpw

has details.

That approach was hideously expensive.

Frank

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Re: [FLEAA] US drops car fuel cell research

2009-05-12 Thread peteamar
? Isn't a fuel cell vehicle an electric vehicle? Doesn't it?just stores 
electrons in a different way?

Pete Amar in Fort Pierce.


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Hurrah, Frank! I am so glad that we have stepped out that huge sucking vortex 
of wasted dollars! Thanks for pointing that out to us. Fran  The EVI?
- Original Message - From: Frank Leslie fles...@fit.edu?
To: cons-spst-energy-fo...@lists.sierraclub.org?
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:33 PM?
Subject: [FLEAA] US drops car fuel cell research?
?
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/science/earth/08energy.html?hpw?
?
 has details.?
?
 That approach was hideously expensive.?
?
 Frank?
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 | Frank R. Leslie, M.S. Space Tech. | Adjunct Professor of Renewable?
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 | Florida Tech, DMES, Rm. 104, 150 W. University Blvd., Melbourne FL 32901?
 | (321) 674-7377 | http://my.fit.edu/~fleslie  (Renewable?
 Energy)?
 | Florida Tech email: fles...@fit.edu |?
 http://my.fit.edu/wx_fit/roberts/RH.htm?
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 | Home: 1017 Glenham Drive, NE, Palm Bay FL 32905-4855 | (321) 768-6629?
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Re: [FLEAA] US drops car fuel cell research

2009-05-12 Thread Andrew
Pete,

Battery electric vehicles are at east 4 times more efficient than hydrogen
fuel cell vehicles.
A hydrogen fueling infrastructure from production to distribution and retail
across the US would cost a trillion dollars.
The charging infrastructure for battery electric vehicles largely exists
today, electric outlets are everywhere.

Andrew

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? Isn't a fuel cell vehicle an electric vehicle? Doesn't it?just stores
electrons in a different way?

Pete Amar in Fort Pierce.


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Hurrah, Frank! I am so glad that we have stepped out that huge sucking
vortex of wasted dollars! Thanks for pointing that out to us. Fran  The
EVI?
- Original Message - From: Frank Leslie fles...@fit.edu?
To: cons-spst-energy-fo...@lists.sierraclub.org?
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:33 PM?
Subject: [FLEAA] US drops car fuel cell research?
?
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/science/earth/08energy.html?hpw?
?
 has details.?
?
 That approach was hideously expensive.?
?
 Frank?
?

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 Energy?
 | Florida Tech, DMES, Rm. 104, 150 W. University Blvd., Melbourne FL
32901?
 | (321) 674-7377 | http://my.fit.edu/~fleslie  (Renewable?
 Energy)?
 | Florida Tech email: fles...@fit.edu |?
 http://my.fit.edu/wx_fit/roberts/RH.htm?
 | Life Senior Member, IEEE?
 | Home: 1017 Glenham Drive, NE, Palm Bay FL 32905-4855 | (321) 768-6629?
 | Home email: f.les...@ieee.org | 28-01.3130N /?
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