Re: [Live-demo] Notebook-review

[Brian M Hamlin]

+1
 

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:28:36 +1100, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

  Hi Massimo,
I also agree that a review process is in order. I'd actually extend to
suggest that a development process should be described as well, and that
we should align with existing OSGeo-Live documentation processes.

Ie, we should be able to find Notebook processes linked from here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Documentation

I also think that we should describe the processes in the OSGeo-Live
wiki (which uses media wiki) rather than a git wiki. This is to ensure
consistency with the rest of OSGeo-Live. Although I'm open to being
convinced otherwise if there are strong advantages to using a git wiki.

I'd suggest following a similar style to the Quickstart guide:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Application_Quick_Start
For example, create a template Notebook, with comments, that someone
else can follow to create a new Quickstart.

I see our weak point from an OSGeo-Live project's point of view is
sourcing a person or people willing to provide detailed review of the
Notebooks.
In particular, it is a significant time sink reviewing documentation to
ensure it has well formed, concise English, at the standard of a
technical text book. (This is the standard we have been targeting so
far, and I believe Notebooks should also be required to meet this standard).
I'd guess that about 60% of time of creating a good notebook would be in
writing code, 40% in describing it.

Massimo, for context, your docs are quite good, but I'd estimate that
they would be ~ 10% to 20% of your effort would be required to review
the docs to our current standards. Reviewing the English in your
Quickstart took me 3 to 4 hours, and that didn't include running any of
the steps.

Sourcing someone with good English writing skills to write Notebooks
will help the review process a lot.

Cheers, Cameron

On 15/03/2016 5:08 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi Massimo,

I agree that we need a review process for all notebooks (not just GSoC).

+1
Angelos

On 03/14/2016 01:11 AM, massimo di stefano wrote:

From the discussion we had so far it is clear to me we need a
*official revision procedure* to have the work done for the GSoC
integrated into the live.

I agreed in “hiding” the jupyter notebook, and so the GSoC work,
from this release of the Live,
in favor of a transparent public commitment to review the efforts done.

IMHO the spreadsheet approach we use for project review doesn’t
apply very well in this context.
To facilitate keeping track of the review and facilitate potential
new contributors,
I propose to open a motion in accepting the use of github
checklist+issue tracker to keep track of the review process.

I started this page, which should help in making this possible:

https://github.com/epifanio/OSGeoLive-Notebooks/wiki/Notebook-review  > >

We can improve it making it more clear, but should give you the idea.

This motion is to validate the work done during GSoC, which is:

“Development of educational material in the form of interactive notebooks”

and to help the coordination between potential contributors for this
specific topic.



Here it is my +1


Cheers,
Massimo.







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Re: [Live-demo] Notebook-review

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Massimo,
I also agree that a review process is in order. I'd actually extend to 
suggest that a development process should be described as well, and that 
we should align with existing OSGeo-Live documentation processes.


Ie, we should be able to find Notebook processes linked from here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Documentation

I also think that we should describe the processes in the OSGeo-Live 
wiki (which uses media wiki) rather than a git wiki. This is to ensure 
consistency with the rest of OSGeo-Live. Although I'm open to being 
convinced otherwise if there are strong advantages to using a git wiki.


I'd suggest following a similar style to the Quickstart guide:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Application_Quick_Start
For example, create a template Notebook, with comments, that someone 
else can follow to create a new Quickstart.


I see our weak point from an OSGeo-Live project's point of view is 
sourcing a person or people willing to provide detailed review of the 
Notebooks.
In particular, it is a significant time sink reviewing documentation to 
ensure it has well formed, concise English, at the standard of a 
technical text book. (This is the standard we have been targeting so 
far, and I believe Notebooks should also be required to meet this standard).
I'd guess that about 60% of time of creating a good notebook would be in 
writing code, 40% in describing it.


Massimo, for context, your docs are quite good, but I'd estimate that 
they would be ~ 10% to 20% of your effort would be required to review 
the docs to our current standards. Reviewing the English in your 
Quickstart took me 3 to 4 hours, and that didn't include running any of 
the steps.


Sourcing someone with good English writing skills to write Notebooks 
will help the review process a lot.


Cheers, Cameron

On 15/03/2016 5:08 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi Massimo,

I agree that we need a review process for all notebooks (not just GSoC).

+1
Angelos

On 03/14/2016 01:11 AM, massimo di stefano wrote:
 From the discussion we had so far it is clear to me we need a 
*official revision procedure* to have the work done for the GSoC 
integrated into the live.


I agreed in “hiding”  the jupyter notebook, and so the GSoC work, 
from this release of the Live,

in favor of a transparent public commitment to review the efforts done.

IMHO the spreadsheet approach we use for project review doesn’t apply 
very well in this context.
To facilitate keeping track of the review and facilitate potential 
new contributors,
I propose to open a motion in accepting the use of github 
checklist+issue tracker to keep track of the review process.


I started this page, which should help in making this possible:

https://github.com/epifanio/OSGeoLive-Notebooks/wiki/Notebook-review 
 >


We can improve it making it more clear, but should give you the idea.

This motion is to validate the work done during GSoC, which is:

“Development of educational material in the form of interactive 
notebooks”


and to help the coordination between potential contributors for this 
specific topic.




Here it is my +1


Cheers,
Massimo.







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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo] #1645: Rasdaman not installed on 32 bit system

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#1645: Rasdaman not installed on 32 bit system
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 Reporter:  kalxas   |   Owner:  live-demo@…
 Type:  defect   |  Status:  new
 Priority:  blocker  |   Milestone:  OSGeoLive9.5
Component:  LiveDVD  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:   |
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Comment (by kalxas):

 As a result of the above error, the ncwms war was not deployed properly on
 tomcat, so ncwms is also missing from the 32bit iso.

 I will not open another ticket for this, it will be automatically fixed
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[Live-demo] [OSGeo] #1645: Rasdaman not installed on 32 bit system

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#1645: Rasdaman not installed on 32 bit system
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 Reporter:  kalxas   |  Owner:  live-demo@…
 Type:  defect   | Status:  new
 Priority:  blocker  |  Milestone:  OSGeoLive9.5
Component:  LiveDVD  |   Keywords:
-+--
 Unfortunately we failed to test the new rasdaman installer on 32 bit
 environment. It seems that the installer did not have the i386 binaries
 until now.

 Alex Dumitru is working to provide the 32 bit binaries ASAP.
 Hopefully we can fix this in RC2 (at least for the 32 bit iso).

 {{{
 ===
 Starting "install_rasdaman.sh" ...
 ===
 --2016-03-14 12:42:17--  http://download.rasdaman.org/installer/install.sh
 Resolving download.rasdaman.org (download.rasdaman.org)... 212.201.49.173
 Connecting to download.rasdaman.org
 (download.rasdaman.org)|212.201.49.173|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 8871 (8.7K) [text/x-sh]
 Saving to: 'install.sh'

  0K   100%
 8.25M=0.001s

 2016-03-14 12:42:17 (8.25 MB/s) - 'install.sh' saved [8871/8871]

 Checking if installer needs to update...
 Installer is at latest version.
 Strategy building is handled by the General Strategy Builder.
 Review the installation settings:
 
 Installation path: /opt/rasdaman/
 Version: master
 Update: False
 User: user
 Debug: False
 Communication protocol: rasnet
 Database type: sqlite
   Database data directory: /opt/rasdaman/data/
 Rasdaman binary:
 http://download.rasdaman.org/packages/binary/rasdaman.tar.gz
 Petascope enabled: True
   Petascope database url: jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/petascopedb
   Petascope database user: user
   Petascope server type: tomcat
   Tomcat home: /var/lib/tomcat7/
 Secore enabled: True
 Run systemtest: False
 Rasdaman demo data: False
 Petascope demo data: False
 
 Validating system...
 Cleaning up any old rasdaman files...
 Old rasdaman files cleaned up successfully.
 System was validated.
 Installing third party dependencies...
 Checking user user
 User user checked successfully.
 Creating directory structure...
 Directory structure created successfully.
 Installing deb packages ['make', 'zlib1g', 'zlib1g-dev', 'automake',
 'autotools-dev', 'libtool', 'm4', 'gawk', 'bison', 'flex', 'git-core',
 'g++', 'libncurses5-dev', 'libtiff-dev', 'libgdal-dev', 'gdal-bin',
 'libnetpbm10-dev', 'libjpeg-dev', 'libpng-dev', 'libffi-dev',
 'postgresql', 'postgresql-contrib', 'libedit-dev', 'libecpg-dev',
 'libsqlite-dev', 'sqlite3', 'python-dateutil', 'python-lxml', 'python-
 pip', 'python-gdal', 'libboost-all-dev', 'openjdk-7-jdk', 'python-pip',
 'unzip', 'tomcat7']... 
 Deb packages installed successfully
 Installing pip packages ['glob2']... 
 Pip packages installed successfully
 Setting up the PATH environment variable...
 The PATH environment variable was set up successfully.
 Adding the current user to tomcat user group...
 User user added to tomcat user group successfully.
 Increasing tomcat memory limit...
 Tomcat memory increased succesfully.
 Third party dependencies installed successfully.
 Retrieving rasdaman...
 Rasdaman retrieved successfully
 Building rasdaman...
 Downloading and installing rasdaman binaries...
 Downloaded and installed rasdaman binaries successfully
 Downloading and deploying petascope war...
 Downloaded and installed petascope war...
 Downloading and deploying secore war...
 Downloaded and installed secore war...
 Rasdaman was built successfully.
 Preparing rasdaman...
 Preparing Rasdaman SQLite database...
 An error has occured while executing this command:
 /opt/rasdaman//bin/create_db.sh. We collected the following information:
 Return code: 1
 Stderr: create_db.sh: Error: cannot find rasdl - PATH variable does not
 contain rasdaman path?

 Stdout:create_db.sh: Creating database, rasdaman v9.2 on base DBMS sqlite
 /opt/rasdaman//bin/create_db.sh: line 79: /opt/rasdaman/bin/rasdl: cannot
 execute binary file: Exec format error

 
 ERROR: The installer returned an error code. The installation might not be
 valid.
 rasdaman: unrecognized service
  * Stopping Tomcat servlet engine tomcat7
...done.
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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo] #1522: GeoNetwork 3.0.3 fails to start in 32bit system

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#1522: GeoNetwork 3.0.3 fails to start in 32bit system
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 Reporter:  kalxas|   Owner:  live-demo@…
 Type:  defect|  Status:  reopened
 Priority:  blocker   |   Milestone:  OSGeoLive9.5
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 Keywords:  geonetwork 3  |
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Comment (by kalxas):

 Testing environment:

 VirtualBox with 32bit RC1 iso mounted (live system)

 CPU: 1 core

 RAM: 4GB

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[Live-demo] OSGeoLive 9.5 status: RC1

[Angelos Tzotsos]

Greetings,

According to our schedule [1], we are one week away from OSGeoLive 9.5, 
so today we release our first Release Candidate [2] [3].


Please test your favorite application(s) and report your findings on our 
Trac instance [4].


Cheers,
Angelos

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kO6zzmLFfprZGgp5x7Sjwi-EVN6NTGDR4KXvFVtNpR0/edit#gid=0

[2] http://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/9.5/
[3] http://osprey.ucdavis.edu/downloads/osgeo/gisvm/gisvm/9.5rc1/
[4] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/report/10

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Re: [Live-demo] Notebook-review

[Angelos Tzotsos]

Hi Massimo,

I agree that we need a review process for all notebooks (not just GSoC).

+1
Angelos

On 03/14/2016 01:11 AM, massimo di stefano wrote:

 From the discussion we had so far it is clear to me we need a *official 
revision procedure* to have the work done for the GSoC integrated into the live.

I agreed in “hiding”  the jupyter notebook, and so the GSoC work, from this 
release of the Live,
in favor of a transparent public commitment to review the efforts done.

IMHO the spreadsheet approach we use for project review doesn’t apply very well 
in this context.
To facilitate keeping track of the review and facilitate potential new 
contributors,
I propose to open a motion in accepting the use of github checklist+issue 
tracker to keep track of the review process.

I started this page, which should help in making this possible:

https://github.com/epifanio/OSGeoLive-Notebooks/wiki/Notebook-review 
 
>

We can improve it making it more clear, but should give you the idea.

This motion is to validate the work done during GSoC, which is:

“Development of educational material in the form of interactive notebooks”

and to help the coordination between potential contributors for this specific 
topic.



Here it is my +1


Cheers,
Massimo.





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Re: [Live-demo] GSOC 2016

[massimo di stefano]

> On Mar 14, 2016, at 11:57 AM, sarthak agarwal  wrote:
> 
> Hello devs,
> 
> I read the last year's GSOC page and proposal and now I guess I have s brief 
> idea about the project. And I am very interested in contributing to it.
> I today mailed massimo and waiting for his reply.

Hi Sarthak Can you provide us more info about your programming background 
(languages) and to any work/project you did with open source geospatial 
software?

I also recommend to have a detailed look at:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_Recommendations_for_Students 

and a look at how past proposal are structured. The student is suppose to 
compile a complete proposal including a detailed timeline. 

> 
> But I cannot find the reports of the last year's project. So I have some 
> doubts regarding what should be done next. If anyone of you can give me a 
> small task to test my skills it will be really good.

you can find a black of the reports at:
http://epinux.com/OSGeo-live/osgeolive-gsoc-2015/Report/ 




The main coding-part of the GSoC-2015 idea focus on the development of a js 
widget to render and interact geospatial data within a notebook.
Cesium-js has been chosen as map-canvas, so most of the development will happen 
on the cesium widget code but the same code-concepts apply with any other 
js-map canvas. Essentially what is needed is a “bi-directional communication” 
between python and js (which is performed using the ipywidget library).

There are unresolved issue that you can start with.
The first basic one is to have the cesium-js mouse action and camera parameters 
sending back information to the python kernel.

see this issue:
https://github.com/petrushy/CesiumWidget/issues/17 


To test your skill:

essentially what is needed is a global variable say:“camera view” 
where info about the camera status [lat, lon, roll, pitch, heading] are stored

From python we want the functions ```zoom_to``` and  ```fly_to``` to use this 
variable to update the camera status

and we also want update the same variable “ camera view” 
each time the status of the camera will change (from the js side, eng: each 
time the user will pan, zoom etc .. the cesium globe)

Hope it make sense, feel free to mail me, add comment on the github issue or 
join us on irc.

Note: there is an other student which already showed interest in the same 
project, he/she is in cc to this mail.

Thanks,

Massimo.


> 
> Also I would like to talk about the project proposal to be submitted next 
> week.
> 
> Regards,
> Sarthak
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 1:12 AM, sarthak agarwal  > wrote:
> Thank you for the reply Cameron. 
> 
> I will try to read all the previous mail related to this project from 
> archives and try to make sense out of by them.
> I will get back to you by tomorrow with my revised understanding and doubts.
> 
> Meanwhile any help from the community will be highly appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> Sarthak
> 
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Cameron Shorter  > wrote:
> Hi Sarthak,
> You will like get better answers to your question by going to the OSGeo-Live 
> email list.
> Re clarity on what is required for this project, no need to apologise, as I 
> think that we in the OSGeo-Live community need to provide the clarity to 
> ourselves. I'm hoping Massimo will respond with some suggestions.
> Warm regards, Cameron
> 
> 
> On 12/03/2016 6:22 am, sarthak agarwal wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply Cameron.
>> 
>> I read the blog and last year's proposal 
>> 
>>  and what I understood from it is -
>> 1. "Create a notebook for OSgeo live (I am not very sure which all topics 
>> will be covered in the notebook)." 
>> 2. The project has already started last year and I have to add more topics 
>> to it (Correct me if I am wrong).
>> 3. The notebook will contain description of the dataset and some kind of code
>> 
>> Right Now my understanding is pretty vague, sorry for that.
>> 
>> Can you please elaborate the idea so that I have a clearer picture of what 
>> is needed in the project. And also what will be the scope of the project 
>> (GSOC)?
>> 
>> Would you like me to do any qualification task to back my technical skills, 
>> I'll be happy to do it.
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Cameron Shorter < 
>> cameron.shor...@gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>> Hello Sarthak,
>> I'm CCing the other OSGeo-Live mentor, Massimo.
>> I suggest you also CC our email list:  
>> Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org 
>> 

Re: [Live-demo] GSOC 2016

[sarthak agarwal]

Hello devs,

I read the last year's GSOC page and proposal and now I guess I have s
brief idea about the project. And I am very interested in contributing to
it.
I today mailed massimo and waiting for his reply.

But I cannot find the reports of the last year's project. So I have some
doubts regarding what should be done next. If anyone of you can give me a
small task to test my skills it will be really good.

Also I would like to talk about the project proposal to be submitted next
week.

Regards,
Sarthak


On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 1:12 AM, sarthak agarwal 
wrote:

> Thank you for the reply Cameron.
>
> I will try to read all the previous mail related to this project from
> archives and try to make sense out of by them.
> I will get back to you by tomorrow with my revised understanding and
> doubts.
>
> Meanwhile any help from the community will be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Sarthak
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sarthak,
>> You will like get better answers to your question by going to the
>> OSGeo-Live email list.
>> Re clarity on what is required for this project, no need to apologise, as
>> I think that we in the OSGeo-Live community need to provide the clarity to
>> ourselves. I'm hoping Massimo will respond with some suggestions.
>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>
>>
>> On 12/03/2016 6:22 am, sarthak agarwal wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the reply Cameron.
>>
>> I read the blog and last year's proposal
>> 
>>  and
>> what I understood from it is -
>> 1. "Create a notebook for OSgeo live (I am not very sure which all topics
>> will be covered in the notebook)."
>> 2. The project has already started last year and I have to add more
>> topics to it (Correct me if I am wrong).
>> 3. The notebook will contain description of the dataset and some kind of
>> code
>>
>> Right Now my understanding is pretty vague, sorry for that.
>>
>> Can you please elaborate the idea so that I have a clearer picture of
>> what is needed in the project. And also what will be the scope of the
>> project (GSOC)?
>>
>> Would you like me to do any qualification task to back my technical
>> skills, I'll be happy to do it.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Cameron Shorter <
>> cameron.shor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Sarthak,
>>> I'm CCing the other OSGeo-Live mentor, Massimo.
>>> I suggest you also CC our email list: 
>>> Live-demo@lists.osgeo.org.
>>>
>>> The current OSGeo-Live proposal builds upon last year's work from
>>> Massimo.
>>> Over the last couple of days, Massimo and I have been debating the focus
>>> of Notebooks, and I'll ask Massimo to describe his suggestion to you.
>>>
>>> For me, I think the core of OSGeo-Live is to provide tools which make it
>>> easy for other developers to demonstrate their applications, and to do this
>>> in a way that is easy to maintain long term. Background here:
>>>
>>> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html
>>>
>>> Notebooks, once adopted, should help with that.
>>>
>>> Other areas which would help include:
>>> * Setting up a process which makes translation easier
>>> * Improving packaging, in particular of java applications within a
>>> debian based environment
>>> These last two ideas possibly won't qualify for GSoC sponsorship (which
>>> is about coding)
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>> (Feel free to CC the osgeolive email list in your response)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/03/2016 1:53 am, sarthak agarwal wrote:
>>>

  Hello devs,

 Myself Sarthak currently working under Dr. KS Rajan as a research
 student in Spatial Informatics Lab, IIIT hyderabad . I am currently working
 in spatial databases by optimizing the performance of mongoDb for spatial
 databases. Previously i have worked on Billboard placement optimization
 problem(using QGIS) and with pgRouting as a part of my previous GSOC
 project. I also published a paper @FOSS4G south korea last year where I
 came to know more about OSGEO live and since then I am using it.

 I am an open source enthusiast and likes to contribute to our OSGEO
 community. I am interested in working with OsGeo Live as a part of GSOC
 project.

 I looked at the wiki page but couldn't get any good insight of the
 project. Could you please give a brief description of the project so that I
 can pitch my ideas on it.

 Can someone please guide me in the same direction. Attached is my
 resume.

 Regards,
 Sarthak Agarwal
 Btech and Ms by research in Spatial Informatics
 International Institute Of Information Technology ,Hyderabad


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