Re: [Liveaboard] test message
Hi, Norm and Jan, I didn’t realize you were up here in the “north” country! On your way down, will you be stopping at OB? In terms of a Hurricane Hole, we’ve had several cruisers duck into OB and drop several hooks in West Harbor which is a great hurricane hole. From where you normally anchor, you’d head West inside the harbor past Center Island (the Oyster Bay Marine Center and fuel dock would be on your left) you’d make a right into West Harbor. Actually, last year with Irene, I went out to check on the boat the day after the storm and found Steve and Linda Dashew anchored in there onboard their newest creation, Wind Horse, a 65’ steel world cruiser! Given their level of expertise and knowledge, if they like West Harbor as a hurricane hole then that’s good enough for me. I’m heading out today to strip the sails, dodger, bimini, etc., and stuff all below. My mooring (500#) is sufficiently buried into the bottom mud and Captiva should comfortably ride out whatever shows up as a result of Sandy. Last year, the yard dropped a bunch of moorings where you normally drop your hook and moved the boats in their slips out to those moorings. Out of the zillion boats moored in the harbor, they only had one break loose. That one sailed itself through the mooring field without hitting any other boat (amazing) and ended up on the beach with minimal damage. Good luck to all those in the path of Sandy! Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V Jan and I are just sitting in our RV in a boatyard in Gloucester visiting our Yankee friends. Expect to leave Monday as Sandy arrives. If anyone reads Ocean Navigator I have an article in the Sept issue and in the Nov/Dec issue so I have been not completely lazy! Glad to know that I am still connected to my List family. Smooth sailing. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 23.8N 081 25.7W ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html -- Ed Kelly sailing vessel ANGEL LOUISE - Catalac 12m Skype to AttyEdKelly or Skype-in phone: 202-657-6357 attyedke...@gmail.com ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] test message
Ahoy Steve, Thank you for thinking of us but: “Jan and I are just sitting in our RV in a boatyard in Gloucester visiting our Yankee friends.” RV stands for Recreational Vehicle, not Running-for-cover Vessel. We do miss OB and all the other stops we usually enjoy on the water but this year we had to drive up north in our little motorhome. Jan says Hi... Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 23.8N 081 25.7W P.S. – Wind Horse is aluminum. We were aboard off Cumberland Island two years ago.___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] A SAFER WAY TO ANCHOR MANY MODERN BOATS IN A HURRICANE
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:08:23AM +0300, Ed Kelly wrote: Jordan's work discovered many boats could more easily survive a hurricane if they were anchored with a bridle in a STERN TO position in a hurricane.═ A note from personal experience: fairly early in my cruising career, I deployed a sea anchor off the stern of my boat, S/V Recessional, in a gale off the east coast of the Dominican Republic. Within 30 seconds, it almost sunk my boat by holding the (admittedly fine) stern down to the oncoming seas; the following wave immediately filled my cockpit to the brim, and if it had been any larger, we would have gone done instantly. I managed to slash the bridle away before the next wave, and I am utterly certain that had I not done that, we'd have gone down in seconds: the next wave would have stove in the main companion boards. (No, the sea anchor was not oversized for the boat.) Some years later, I deployed a sea anchor in a strong NW winter gale in the Gulf Stream, on a roller running on a stem to stern bridle, the way the Pardeys recommend. The boat I was on, S/V Ulysses, slid around to a comfortable position - taking the seas ~40 degrees off the bow, as I recall - and stayed that way for the two days that it took the weather to ease. These were two completely different boats, but whether it's just a personal preference or otherwise, I find that I'm very hesitant to recommend deploying a sea anchor off the stern without a sharp knife close at hand. If you do own one and plan to head out to sea with it, I'd strongly recommend testing it in calmer weather just to familiarize yourself with it. (N.B. If you do not have a cleat or another securing point aboard your boat which you can trust to hold at least a couple of tons, you have no business taking that boat to sea; one each fore and aft if you wish to use the Pardey technique. Check you friendly nearby horizontal anchor loads table for why this might be important. :) Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] test message
Wow, Norm! I didn’t realize you drove up! I just assumed you cruised up and were sitting in a friend’s borrowed RV. I’d tell you then to drive to OB but at this point there’s not a whole hell of a lot of space in the yard. They starting hauling boats on an accelerated based once it appeared that Sandy was going to pay us a visit. I was out there this afternoon to strip the jib and dodger off the boat to prep for the storm. Since I’ve got that “Stack Pak” arrangement on the main, and the biggest threat seems to be high tides and rain (although 50-70 kts of forecast wind still gets your attention) I just spiral wrapped the main around the boom, put some chafe around the mooring lines as they come over the gunnel to the cleats and called it a day. As opposed to Irene, last year, the biggest worry folks have is downed powerlines and excessive flooding. One of the problems is that it looks like Sandy will arrive on a Full Moon (or close enough) so the spring tides could wreak major havoc. S Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V From: Norm Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 4:26 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] test message Ahoy Steve, Thank you for thinking of us but: “Jan and I are just sitting in our RV in a boatyard in Gloucester visiting our Yankee friends.” RV stands for Recreational Vehicle, not Running-for-cover Vessel. We do miss OB and all the other stops we usually enjoy on the water but this year we had to drive up north in our little motorhome. Jan says Hi... Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 23.8N 081 25.7W P.S. – Wind Horse is aluminum. We were aboard off Cumberland Island two years ago. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] test message
Wow, Norm! I didn’t realize you drove up! I just assumed you cruised up and were sitting in a friend’s borrowed RV. I’d tell you then to drive to OB but at this point there’s not a whole hell of a lot of space in the yard. They starting hauling boats on an accelerated based once it appeared that Sandy was going to pay us a visit. I was out there this afternoon to strip the jib and dodger off the boat to prep for the storm. Since I’ve got that “Stack Pak” arrangement on the main, and the biggest threat seems to be high tides and rain. Current forecast are calling for sustained 40-50 kts Monday afternoon with some possible gusts to 70 but that’s about it. That kind of wind still gets your attention but I just spiral wrapped the main around the boom, put some chafe around the mooring lines as they come over the gunnel to the cleats and called it a day. As opposed to Irene, last year, the biggest worry folks have is downed powerlines and excessive flooding. One of the problems is that it looks like Sandy will arrive on a Full Moon (or close enough) so the spring tides could wreak major havoc. S Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V From: Norm Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 4:26 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] test message Ahoy Steve, Thank you for thinking of us but: “Jan and I are just sitting in our RV in a boatyard in Gloucester visiting our Yankee friends.” RV stands for Recreational Vehicle, not Running-for-cover Vessel. We do miss OB and all the other stops we usually enjoy on the water but this year we had to drive up north in our little motorhome. Jan says Hi... Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 23.8N 081 25.7W P.S. – Wind Horse is aluminum. We were aboard off Cumberland Island two years ago. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
