Re: [Liverpool] ***UNCHECKED*** Email in a box

2017-07-11 Thread Alex J Lennon via Liverpool



On 11/07/17 15:14, jn1057 via Liverpool wrote:
Just as I thought, the livlug group are quick to respond and provide 
very useful advice! Many thanks.


Again though Neil, I think you sent two emails relating to my query 
but one of them was missing the body of the email!  We think that is 
due to my email client on my Samsung phone.


Email in a box seems to be a very basic generic system intended to be 
installed onto a server Farm rented server. Doing that seems reduce 
the problems of being blacklisted due to being on a home ip address. 
 Email in a box when installed, hijacks the entire pc and it seems 
locks it down so it is the only service on that pc.


Email in a box own docs suggests that there are other more 
sophisticated projects that could be tried, iRedMail being one of them.


As someone entirely new to this idea of "re decentralisation" of 
Internet services I'm intrigued, bewildered yet keen to learn how to 
implement my own email hosting system





Speaking as somebody who has run his own email, web. and other servers 
for many, many years, as I'm sure is true of many from LivLig and the 
DoES community, I can't think of a more fun way to get started than 
using a co-located Raspberry Pi for your email server:


e.g. https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-colocation

Cheers,

Alex
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[Liverpool] Email in a box

2017-07-11 Thread jn1057 via Liverpool
Just as I thought, the livlug group are quick to respond and provide very 
useful advice! Many thanks. 

Again though Neil, I think you sent two emails relating to my query but one of 
them was missing the body of the email!  We think that is due to my email 
client on my Samsung phone. 

Email in a box seems to be a very basic generic system intended to be installed 
onto a server Farm rented server. Doing that seems reduce the problems of being 
blacklisted due to being on a home ip address.  Email in a box when installed, 
hijacks the entire pc and it seems locks it down so it is the only service on 
that pc. 

Email in a box own docs suggests that there are other more sophisticated 
projects that could be tried, iRedMail being one of them. 

As someone entirely new to this idea of "re decentralisation" of Internet 
services I'm intrigued, bewildered yet keen to learn how to implement my own 
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Re: [Liverpool] Email in a box

2017-07-11 Thread Paul M Furley via Liverpool
I'm interested in this too, just a bit wary about self-configuring things - how 
do I fix it if it goes wrong?

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 11:05, jn1057 via Liverpool  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone!  Does anyone know if the email in a box system is any good?  
> From what I can see it looks like it is deliberately basic and as far as 
> possible self repairing.
> 
> For a small number of accounts it might be useful. For those of the livlug 
> who host their own email there is comment that home hosting is almost 
> impossible because isps automatically blacklist ip addresses from home 
> servers. Can this be easily tackled? 

I think Neil does home hosting successfully.

I believe it helps if you're on a more specialist ISP (andrews & arnold, Zen 
etc). I think the trick is to be on an IP in a clean IP block - eg you don't 
want spammy "neighbours".
> 
> Your comments and advice would be much welcomed, thanks
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Re: [Liverpool] Email in a box

2017-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick via Liverpool
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 11:05:05 +0100, jn1057 via Liverpool wrote:

> Hi everyone!  Does anyone know if the email in a box system is any
> good?  From what I can see it looks like it is deliberately basic and
> as far as possible self repairing.

Is the the system that Click reviewed. That was basically a Pi with some
outdated software - they slated it!

> For a small number of accounts it might be useful. For those of the
> livlug who host their own email there is comment that home hosting is
> almost impossible because isps automatically blacklist ip addresses
> from home servers. Can this be easily tackled? 

Many ISPs and companies blacklist mails sent directly from IP addresses
that are listed as for home use. The way round it is to route outgoing
mail through a smarterhost, like your ISP's mail server. You can do this
on a per-domain basis with Postfix. I did it that way for a while but the
list of domains got rather long so I made it the default.

If your main concern is privacy, you may be better off renting a VPS is a
less Orwellian country and running your own mail server on that.


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If you think that there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody.


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[Liverpool] Email in a box

2017-07-11 Thread jn1057 via Liverpool
Hi everyone!  Does anyone know if the email in a box system is any good?  From 
what I can see it looks like it is deliberately basic and as far as possible 
self repairing.

For a small number of accounts it might be useful. For those of the livlug who 
host their own email there is comment that home hosting is almost impossible 
because isps automatically blacklist ip addresses from home servers. Can this 
be easily tackled? 

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