Re: Why is log4net not more similar to log4j(2)?

2015-09-19 Thread Stefan Bodewig 
On 2015-09-19, Nicholas Duane wrote:

> I'm not sure how the log4j, log4j2 and log4net groups are related.

The people developing log4j and the people developing log4net are
separate teams - and have always been.  The other log4XYZ-es (everything
not log4j) have been inspired by log4j but they've never been started by
the log4j folks because they wanted to reach beyond the Java platform.

> I'm not sure if it works this way, but I see that the apache logging
> framework can be an architecture/design or specification which can be
> realized on different platform/languages.

This is not how things happened historically.

It might even be a bad idea if such an approach forced you to base the
architecture on the least common denominator of your target platforms -
I'm not sure.

Stefan

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Re: Why is log4net not more similar to log4j(2)?

2015-09-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig 
On 2015-09-17, Gary Gregory wrote:

> "Patches welcome" is my motto :-)

> Gary

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Nicholas Duane  wrote:

>> Sending to both the log4j and log4net mailing lists.

>> I'm curious why log4net is not more similar to log4j(2)?  Is it because
>> there is less development work being done on log4net and log4j had
>> significant changes in the 2.0 version?

> I think I read somewhere that log4net was a port of log4j 1.

This is certainly part of the reason.  log4net was started as a port of
1.x a long time ago.  The developers (long before I joined) added some
deviations that look closer to what log4j 2 is doing (XML
configuration).

Incidently Dominik started a discussion about log4net 2.0 on the dev
list[1] and some people expressed interest.  Any hand that can offer
some help is more than welcome, so please come over and join.

[1] thread starting with 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/logging-log4net-dev/201508.mbox/%3C03be01d0da4f%24a85aaa10%24f90ffe30%24%40apache.org%3E

Stefan

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