RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
Hi,
I am using Websphere to deploy my enterprise application. I put my log4j.xml
file in WAS_HOME/properties directory and it works fine. I don't know whether
this is a correct way but this issue is more serious for an ear that for a war.
Jitendra
-Original Message-
From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:58 AM
To: 'Log4J Users List'
Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
Thanks. I think the classpath would make the most sense in case since I'm using
sockets this would allow me to quickly adjust where they all log to.
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From: Mark Womack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
If you just use log4j, by default it looks for a file named "log4j.xml" or
log4j.properties" in the classpath. If it finds one of them, then it uses it
to configure itself (with the proper configurator).
There are schemes for initializing log4j in a web application if you have a
different name for your file or want it to live in a different place. There
are servlets and app context listeners that can be configured to locate the
file and then use it to configure.
-Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:18 PM
> To: 'Log4J Users List'
> Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> I would think with the absolute path there would have to be some way
> to use the proper ../ combination to get yourself to the right
> directory? Or build off of the assumed root directory? Or am I missing
> something important?
>
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> From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> The absolute path
>
> Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
>
> >For which of the issues?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:06 PM
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> >Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
> >
> >We use the same but you have to specify the JNDI name to load it
> >correctly or do not provide file name but provide it as a resource
> >stream
> >
> >Jan
> >
> >Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I am trying to configure log4j using
> >>
> >>PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
> >>
> >>I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When
> >>I
> look at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml.
> I'm using RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the
> program that uses the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to
> feed it for a path to this file. I can not use an absolute path
> because I will never know what that absolute path is since it will be running
> in websphere.
> >>
> >>Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then
> upload my war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
> >>
> >>I can include exact errors if this will help.
> >>
> >>thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Joel Schuweiler
> >>Middleware
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Tel: 8-7900
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RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
Thanks. I think the classpath would make the most sense in case since I'm using
sockets this would allow me to quickly adjust where they all log to.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Womack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:27 PM
To: 'Log4J Users List'
Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
If you just use log4j, by default it looks for a file named "log4j.xml" or
log4j.properties" in the classpath. If it finds one of them, then it uses
it to configure itself (with the proper configurator).
There are schemes for initializing log4j in a web application if you have a
different name for your file or want it to live in a different place. There
are servlets and app context listeners that can be configured to locate the
file and then use it to configure.
-Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:18 PM
> To: 'Log4J Users List'
> Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> I would think with the absolute path there would have to be some way to
> use the proper ../ combination to get yourself to the right directory? Or
> build off of the assumed root directory? Or am I missing something
> important?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:16 PM
> To: Log4J Users List
> Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> The absolute path
>
> Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
>
> >For which of the issues?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:06 PM
> >To: Log4J Users List
> >Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
> >
> >We use the same but you have to specify the JNDI name to load it
> >correctly or do not provide file name but provide it as a resource stream
> >
> >Jan
> >
> >Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I am trying to configure log4j using
> >>
> >>PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
> >>
> >>I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I
> look at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm
> using RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that
> uses the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path
> to this file. I can not use an absolute path because I will never know
> what that absolute path is since it will be running in websphere.
> >>
> >>Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then
> upload my war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
> >>
> >>I can include exact errors if this will help.
> >>
> >>thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Joel Schuweiler
> >>Middleware
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Tel: 8-7900
> >>
> >>
> >>
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RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
If you just use log4j, by default it looks for a file named "log4j.xml" or
log4j.properties" in the classpath. If it finds one of them, then it uses
it to configure itself (with the proper configurator).
There are schemes for initializing log4j in a web application if you have a
different name for your file or want it to live in a different place. There
are servlets and app context listeners that can be configured to locate the
file and then use it to configure.
-Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:18 PM
> To: 'Log4J Users List'
> Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> I would think with the absolute path there would have to be some way to
> use the proper ../ combination to get yourself to the right directory? Or
> build off of the assumed root directory? Or am I missing something
> important?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:16 PM
> To: Log4J Users List
> Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> The absolute path
>
> Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
>
> >For which of the issues?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:06 PM
> >To: Log4J Users List
> >Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
> >
> >We use the same but you have to specify the JNDI name to load it
> >correctly or do not provide file name but provide it as a resource stream
> >
> >Jan
> >
> >Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I am trying to configure log4j using
> >>
> >>PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
> >>
> >>I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I
> look at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm
> using RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that
> uses the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path
> to this file. I can not use an absolute path because I will never know
> what that absolute path is since it will be running in websphere.
> >>
> >>Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then
> upload my war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
> >>
> >>I can include exact errors if this will help.
> >>
> >>thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Joel Schuweiler
> >>Middleware
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Tel: 8-7900
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >>Zkontrolováno Antivirovým systémem AVG.
> >>Verze: 7.0.338 / Virová báze: 267.10.6/69 - datum vydání: 11.8.2005
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RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
Xml. Switched to domconfig and it didn't help any.
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From: Mark Womack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
Well, unless you actually have properties in a file with ".xml" for the file
type, you should be using DOMConfigurator. Is the file in property or xml
format?
-Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:11 PM
> To: 'Log4J Users List'
> Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> Wow. Nice. I've used it before and it works.
>
> What should I be using with xml files? :P
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Womack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:10 PM
> To: 'Log4J Users List'
> Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> You sure that is how you are configuring? PropertyConfigurator cannot
> process xml files.
>
> -Mark
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:02 PM
> > To: log4j-user@logging.apache.org
> > Subject: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
> >
> > I am trying to configure log4j using
> >
> > PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
> >
> > I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I
> look
> > at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm
> using
> > RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that uses
> > the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path to
> > this file. I can not use an absolute path because I will never know what
> > that absolute path is since it will be running in websphere.
> >
> > Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then
> upload
> > my war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
> >
> > I can include exact errors if this will help.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Joel Schuweiler
> > Middleware
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Tel: 8-7900
>
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RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
Well, unless you actually have properties in a file with ".xml" for the file
type, you should be using DOMConfigurator. Is the file in property or xml
format?
-Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:11 PM
> To: 'Log4J Users List'
> Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> Wow. Nice. I've used it before and it works.
>
> What should I be using with xml files? :P
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Womack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:10 PM
> To: 'Log4J Users List'
> Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> You sure that is how you are configuring? PropertyConfigurator cannot
> process xml files.
>
> -Mark
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:02 PM
> > To: log4j-user@logging.apache.org
> > Subject: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
> >
> > I am trying to configure log4j using
> >
> > PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
> >
> > I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I
> look
> > at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm
> using
> > RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that uses
> > the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path to
> > this file. I can not use an absolute path because I will never know what
> > that absolute path is since it will be running in websphere.
> >
> > Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then
> upload
> > my war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
> >
> > I can include exact errors if this will help.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Joel Schuweiler
> > Middleware
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Tel: 8-7900
>
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RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
I would think with the absolute path there would have to be some way to use the
proper ../ combination to get yourself to the right directory? Or build off of
the assumed root directory? Or am I missing something important?
-Original Message-
From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:16 PM
To: Log4J Users List
Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
The absolute path
Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
>For which of the issues?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:06 PM
>To: Log4J Users List
>Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
>We use the same but you have to specify the JNDI name to load it
>correctly or do not provide file name but provide it as a resource stream
>
>Jan
>
>Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
>
>
>
>>I am trying to configure log4j using
>>
>>PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
>>
>>I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I look at
>>the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm using RAD
>>(IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that uses the log4j
>>and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path to this file. I
>>can not use an absolute path because I will never know what that absolute
>>path is since it will be running in websphere.
>>
>>Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then upload my
>>war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
>>
>>I can include exact errors if this will help.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>Joel Schuweiler
>>Middleware
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Tel: 8-7900
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Příchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry.
>>Zkontrolováno Antivirovým systémem AVG.
>>Verze: 7.0.338 / Virová báze: 267.10.6/69 - datum vydání: 11.8.2005
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The absolute path
Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
For which of the issues?
-Original Message-
From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:06 PM
To: Log4J Users List
Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
We use the same but you have to specify the JNDI name to load it
correctly or do not provide file name but provide it as a resource stream
Jan
Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
I am trying to configure log4j using
PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I look at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm using RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that uses the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path to this file. I can not use an absolute path because I will never know what that absolute path is since it will be running in websphere.
Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then upload my
war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
I can include exact errors if this will help.
thanks
Joel Schuweiler
Middleware
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: 8-7900
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RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
Wow. Nice. I've used it before and it works.
What should I be using with xml files? :P
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From: Mark Womack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:10 PM
To: 'Log4J Users List'
Subject: RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
You sure that is how you are configuring? PropertyConfigurator cannot
process xml files.
-Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:02 PM
> To: log4j-user@logging.apache.org
> Subject: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> I am trying to configure log4j using
>
> PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
>
> I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I look
> at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm using
> RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that uses
> the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path to
> this file. I can not use an absolute path because I will never know what
> that absolute path is since it will be running in websphere.
>
> Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then upload
> my war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
>
> I can include exact errors if this will help.
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> Joel Schuweiler
> Middleware
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel: 8-7900
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RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
You sure that is how you are configuring? PropertyConfigurator cannot
process xml files.
-Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: Schuweiler, Joel J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:02 PM
> To: log4j-user@logging.apache.org
> Subject: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
>
> I am trying to configure log4j using
>
> PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
>
> I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I look
> at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm using
> RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that uses
> the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path to
> this file. I can not use an absolute path because I will never know what
> that absolute path is since it will be running in websphere.
>
> Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then upload
> my war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
>
> I can include exact errors if this will help.
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> Joel Schuweiler
> Middleware
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel: 8-7900
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RE: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
For which of the issues?
-Original Message-
From: Jan Pernica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:06 PM
To: Log4J Users List
Subject: Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
We use the same but you have to specify the JNDI name to load it
correctly or do not provide file name but provide it as a resource stream
Jan
Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
>I am trying to configure log4j using
>
>PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
>
>I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I look at
>the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm using RAD
>(IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that uses the log4j
>and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path to this file. I
>can not use an absolute path because I will never know what that absolute path
>is since it will be running in websphere.
>
>Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then upload my
>war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
>
>I can include exact errors if this will help.
>
>thanks
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>
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>Joel Schuweiler
>Middleware
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Tel: 8-7900
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Re: Log4j, websphere, rad, and log4j.xml location
We use the same but you have to specify the JNDI name to load it
correctly or do not provide file name but provide it as a resource stream
Jan
Schuweiler, Joel J. wrote:
I am trying to configure log4j using
PropertyConfigurator.configure("log4j.xml");
I am however having an issue. I never receive a logging event. When I look at the websphere log, log4j says it is unable to find log4j.xml. I'm using RAD (IBM's Rappid Application Developer) to write the program that uses the log4j and I'm wondering exactly what I need to feed it for a path to this file. I can not use an absolute path because I will never know what that absolute path is since it will be running in websphere.
Another issue I'm having is when I import an external jar and then upload my
war to websphere it can't find any of the log4j stuff.
I can include exact errors if this will help.
thanks
Joel Schuweiler
Middleware
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: 8-7900
Příchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry.
Zkontrolováno Antivirovým systémem AVG.
Verze: 7.0.338 / Virová báze: 267.10.6/69 - datum vydání: 11.8.2005
