[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15304149#comment-15304149 ] Jose Luis Pedrosa commented on LOG4NET-415: --- Hi Is there any way to get this patch applied to log4net? should I do a PR or something? would it help? Rgds JL > RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 > -- > > Key: LOG4NET-415 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 > Project: Log4net > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Appenders >Affects Versions: 1.2.13 > Environment: Any Windows environment >Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa > Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender > Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch, MessageLostTest.cs, > MessageLostTest.cs, MessageLostTestAsync.cs, RemoteSyslogNonBlockingV3.patch, > RemoteSyslogNonBlockingv2.patch > > > Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: > 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. > 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. > When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits > until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to > reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP > the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down > the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB > locks...). > Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet > again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for > instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go > in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now > skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 > I'm adding a patch that > 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the > blocking. > 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or > not (with default Strict). > Please your feedback, thanks in advance > Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332)
[jira] [Updated] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jose Luis Pedrosa updated LOG4NET-415: -- Attachment: RemoteSyslogNonBlockingV3.patch RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch, MessageLostTest.cs, MessageLostTest.cs, MessageLostTestAsync.cs, RemoteSyslogNonBlockingV3.patch, RemoteSyslogNonBlockingv2.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13866538#comment-13866538 ] Jose Luis Pedrosa commented on LOG4NET-415: --- Hi Cauchy, Because of your result tests, I am quite convinced that non-blocking is better for this scenario: Use Non-Blocking send 10 message, 3733 failed (3.73 %), use 1.396 seconds. Vs Use BeginSend send 10 message, 0 failed (.00 %), use 2.576 seconds. The behaviour I want to achieve is fire and forget and don't block the main thread. The async took double of time! Also I think we need to understand the use case, it's for logging over UDP. In extreme scenarios as the one we are using here, I'd radther higher message lost rate than longer execution. Also I would expect a higher CPU using async vs non-blocking, I think that is the reason why you loose less messages in async mode, because it takes more time to do the same. But I don't think anybody wants to log from a single application 100K messages per second, Imagine that in any real application (some of the one we know). I think even for really high values 10k per second, the lost would be almost 0. Also in your test you receive more messages because async is slower! so you take double of time, then double send. Blocking false maximizes what you can send per second and loosing messages if it exceeds your capacity, I think that is the best behaviour. If you want to do a final test for the good shake of testing, you can try log at fixed rate, (100, 1000, 2500, 5000 ) per second, and see when you start loosing. But for what I've seen now, non-blocking achieves better the behaviour that I'd want. Rgds JL RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch, MessageLostTest.cs, MessageLostTest.cs, MessageLostTestAsync.cs, RemoteSyslogNonBlockingv2.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Updated] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jose Luis Pedrosa updated LOG4NET-415: -- Attachment: RemoteSyslogNonBlockingv2.patch RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch, MessageLostTest.cs, RemoteSyslogNonBlockingv2.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13865410#comment-13865410 ] Jose Luis Pedrosa commented on LOG4NET-415: --- Hi, Cauchy/Dongsheng, please send the patch in attached code, otherwise the comments are harder to follow. 1) I did this test using Log4net log.info (instead of sending just on a raw socket) and 0 packet lost or exceptions over millions of messages. Anyway I don't think this would happen in any other scenario than a thread sending messages continously, actually i did that test, only printing one byte to the console every 1 messages, and 0 lost. In any case, a while loop for extraordinary long messages blocks is a good idea. Despite the current log4net version does not check that. 2) Stefan: Any feedback about the CF framework and the strict option? Rgds JL RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch, MessageLostTest.cs, RemoteSyslogNonBlockingv2.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13865462#comment-13865462 ] Jose Luis Pedrosa commented on LOG4NET-415: --- Hi Cauchy If you apply the patch to the code, you would realize that it is already inside a try/catch block with log4net error handling this exception. It was already there in the trunk. Rgds JL RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch, MessageLostTest.cs, RemoteSyslogNonBlockingv2.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13865497#comment-13865497 ] Jose Luis Pedrosa commented on LOG4NET-415: --- Cauchy This is UDP, Fire and forget, you don't block your bussiness for logging. Failures are better than retries, TCP vs UDP, And again this is a very very exotic scenario that It's not possible to reproduce using the whole .log4net (only raw socket send in a loop to make it happen) Async involves more threads going on on your application and more memory consumption. Async is good when you need to know when your invokation has completed and you need to do something afterwards, which is not the case. Rgds RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch, MessageLostTest.cs, RemoteSyslogNonBlockingv2.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13864040#comment-13864040 ] Jose Luis Pedrosa commented on LOG4NET-415: --- Hi all, Please also note that in the http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5424 (a newer syslog specification) specifies that all encoding should be UTF8. Maybe we should change the parameter name to control which specification is followed. RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Commented] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13864131#comment-13864131 ] Jose Luis Pedrosa commented on LOG4NET-415: --- Hi Stefan, Thanks for your answer, About CF: In the MS page i looked before sending the patch it said it was supported, that is why I removed the ifdef markers, but indeed i did not test against that platform. About Strict mode, the issue it is trying to address is: avoid a lot of extra data when logging things that contains new line (IE: HTTP SOAP requests with headers), indeed the patch does not provide RFC5424 compliance. But I am quite confident this can be useful for multiple scenarios (An stack trace of an exception for isntance). So my opinion is: This Strict mode (maybe rename the variable to, SplitByNewLine) is useful in various scenarios, and later create another SyslogAppender for RFC5424 or add a parameter/variable to specify the RFC compliance it should use, Like SyslogVersion = RFC5424|RFC3164. I think the option of RFC3164 and split (or not) by lines would be still usefull. What do you think about it? Rgds JL RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Created] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
Jose Luis Pedrosa created LOG4NET-415: - Summary: RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any windows Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)
[jira] [Updated] (LOG4NET-415) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jose Luis Pedrosa updated LOG4NET-415: -- Environment: Any Windows environment (was: Any windows Windows environment) RemoteSyslogAppender may block for ARP resolution + Improvement Strict RFC3164 -- Key: LOG4NET-415 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-415 Project: Log4net Issue Type: Bug Components: Appenders Affects Versions: 1.2.13 Environment: Any Windows environment Reporter: Jose Luis Pedrosa Labels: RemoteSyslogAppender Attachments: LOG4NET-415.patch Sending UDP packages may block for some time in specific circumstances: 1) Next hop in network level 3 can't be resolved by ARP. 2) Datagram size exceeds FastSendDatagramThreshold configured size. When sending packets bigger than FastSendDatagramThreshold, the OS waits until the packet is actually sent, if the If the syslog (or the next hop to reach the syslog) is in the same VLAN/Subnet the OS tries to resolve by ARP the Ip of the configured syslog, this may take up to 3 seconds, slowing down the whole application, which in some cases can lead to outages (timeouts, DB locks...). Also the fact that each carriage return generates the headers of the packet again, that can lead to a significant overhead in some scenarios, for instance when loggign HTTP requests to a remote syslog, every header will go in a different message. Also some logging may require characters that are now skipped in patch: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET-370 I'm adding a patch that 1) Moves the use of UDPClient to Non blocking sockets, which eliminates the blocking. 2) Adds a configuration field to decide if you want Strict RFC Behaviour or not (with default Strict). Please your feedback, thanks in advance Jose Luis -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)