Re: BtVS : Best Male

2001-04-20 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote:

  I had bleached hair once and I looked gorgeous - mind I had pink hair once
  as well ... :)

 another twenty years matey and you'll be posting :
 " i had hair once ... " :))


Another couple of weeks probably (he says picking hairs off the
keyboard) :)

/J\




Re: BtVS : Best Male

2001-04-20 Thread Philip Newton

Robin Szemeti wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote:

Hey, Robin -- remember the "reply to list" feature is on; "you wrote" is not
particularly clear :). (In this case, it's Jonathan Stowe, which is
significant.)

  I had bleached hair once and I looked gorgeous - mind I had 
  pink hair once as well ... :)
 
 another twenty years matey and you'll be posting :
 " i had hair once ... " :))

From what I remember of how jns looked, I'd give him more like two years :)

Cheers,
Philip
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The Perl Conference

2001-04-20 Thread dcross - David Cross


Mentioned this briefly last night...

Registration has opened for this year's Perl conference in San Diego.

Full details at http://conferences.oreilly.com/perl5/.

Dave...

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-16 (Attempt 2)

2001-04-20 Thread Simon Wistow

Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Simon Wistow wrote:
  segwayed
 
 I dont think so Simon ...

Neither did I. But i was tired. 

/me waves hands vaguely



Template Toolkit and XPath notes

2001-04-20 Thread Mark Fowler

Have been uploaded to london.pm.org.  And by jove, with a ickle bit of
httpd.conf bashing they even render out okay.  Shame about the spelling
mistakes though.

http://london.pm.org/~mark/ttxpath/

Later.

Mark.




Re: Mutagenic modules: online slides

2001-04-20 Thread Robin Houston

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:57:01PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 Funny. You've come across the same idea I did.
 http://simon-cozens.org/pg.pdf

Having now read your paper, I think that in some ways it's the
*opposite* idea; or at least a complementary one.

You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
arbitrary language :-)

 .robin.

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Re: BtVS : Best Male

2001-04-20 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:02:18AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
 Robin Szemeti wrote:
  On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote:
 
 Hey, Robin -- remember the "reply to list" feature is on; "you wrote" is not
 particularly clear :). (In this case, it's Jonathan Stowe, which is
 significant.)

aol/ Yes, please attribute.

Oh, and mail clients that thread properly/at all. We know who you are...

Paul



Re: Mutagenic modules: online slides

2001-04-20 Thread Mark Fowler

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Robin Houston wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:57:01PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
  Funny. You've come across the same idea I did.
  http://simon-cozens.org/pg.pdf

 Having now read your paper, I think that in some ways it's the
 *opposite* idea; or at least a complementary one.

 You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
 were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
 arbitrary language :-)

Here be dragons.

Later.

Mark.

P.S. You might want to have a look at File::Remote (as this 'overrides'
open and changes it's meaning.)  Oh and
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg03442.html

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Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Philip Newton

Robert Shiels wrote:
 As expected, the DIMMs are PC100 and not PC133. I strongly expect
 the motherboard will not be able to use the PC133s so either we
 need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order to purchase slower
 RAM.

Er, do you mean "will not be able to use the PC133s" or "will not be able to
use the PC100s and we'll need to get even slower RAM"?

And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the memory
doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
(And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Robert Shiels

From: "Philip Newton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Er, do you mean "will not be able to use the PC133s" or "will not be able
to
 use the PC100s and we'll need to get even slower RAM"?

 And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
 speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
 PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the
memory
 doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
 (And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
 doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

Well, that sounds encouraging. Lets stick with the current order then - I
didn't know you could mix-n-match the two types of RAM on the same board,
I'm still thrilled that with DIMMs you don't need to add them in matching
pairs :-)

Even if there is a problem, I'll volunteer to buy the PC133 chips for my
server at home.

/Robert




Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Jon Galliers

I have a spare pc100 DIMM, 128Mb, CAS2. Could you use this.




Thanks
Jon

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RE: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Thomas Barrett

 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  http://se71.org/myimages/pm/picklist.jpg
  
  is the picklist for our server. As expected, the DIMMs are 
 PC100 and not
  PC133. I strongly expect the motherboard will not be able 
 to use the PC133s
  so either we need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order 
 to purchase
  slower RAM. Can you try and do this before dabs dispatch 
 the order Alex?
 
 umm .. I recently obtained some new RAM and got PC133 even 
 though I only
 have a PC100 mobo and it works just fine. In general using 
 faster memory
 in a slower machine is not a problem,  but don't try it the other way
 around. The speed of memory is its minimum guaranteed speed, 
 its usually
 faster than what it says on the tin anyway.

From http://www.directron.com/faqmemory.html
2. Can I mix PC -100 and PC-133 memory in the same system
If the system supports 100MHz memory, you can normally use
133MHz memory in it as well, and can even mix the two. However,
there would be no advantage gained as the 133MHz memory will only
run at the bus speed of 100MHz. Using the 133MHz memory will not
make the system more stable if it is being Over-clocked. Some
systems, though, will balk at the incorrect speed being reported by
the Serial Presence Detect program. We suggest using only the
memory specified by the system manufacturer, and cannot guaranty
that memory which is different than the manufacturer specifies will
be 100% compatible

HTH

TCB



RE: Mutagenic modules: online slides

2001-04-20 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:37 AM

 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Robin Houston wrote:
 
  You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
  were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
  arbitrary language :-)
 
 Here be dragons.

"You can't just make up any old shit and expect the computer to know what
you mean, retardo!"

Or can you?

Dave...

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RE: Mutagenic modules: online slides

2001-04-20 Thread Mark Fowler

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 Mark Fowler wrote on the 20th April:

  On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Robin Houston wrote:
 
   You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
   were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
   arbitrary language :-)
 
  Here be dragons.

 "You can't just make up any old shit and expect the computer to know what
 you mean, retardo!"


It's more like DWRM programming (do what robin means.)

Later.

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Tk::Canvas Rectangles

2001-04-20 Thread Mark Fowler

Watching veeg's really cool music program in Tk last night reminded me
that I've got a slight problem with something I was writing with
Tk::Canvas...

If I create a rectangle, how do I go about changing its width and height?

Any ideas?

Mark.

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  They have *the* best electric bass player
 in the entire world, 

ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on
Norman Watt Roy ?

-- 
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So I installed Linux!



Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
   They have *the* best electric bass player
  in the entire world, 
 
 ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on
 Norman Watt Roy ?

Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:

 5/2/2001  Pizza Express   London, England

Which Pizza Express ?

/J\




Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:
  5/2/2001Pizza Express   London, England
 Which Pizza Express ?

*The* Pizza Express (in Soho) where they play the jazz.

MBM

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
  On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
They have *the* best electric bass player
   in the entire world, 
  
  ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on
  Norman Watt Roy ?
 
 Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
 Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)

I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue.

-- 
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Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
   



Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Paul Mison

On 20/04/2001 at 16:47 +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:

 5/2/2001 Pizza Express   London, England

Which Pizza Express ?

As far as I know the only one that does live jazz is the one on Dean
Street.

Um, just to make this not a one-liner: davorg, are you going to post
the decision of the emergency meeting meeting?

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On 20/04/2001 at 16:47 +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 
  5/2/2001   Pizza Express   London, England
 
 Which Pizza Express ?
 
 As far as I know the only one that does live jazz is the one on Dean
 Street.

Beckenham

 
 Um, just to make this not a one-liner: davorg, are you going to post
 the decision of the emergency meeting meeting?
 

speaking as a brother of the order of heretics we are happy with the
move in date, if our non-heretic comrades can remind us close to
the time, for some of our number have problems with dates

-- 
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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Nathan Torkington

Dave Hodgkinson writes:
   Norman Watt Roy ?
  Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
  Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)
 I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue.

All good, but if you haven't seen Victor Wooten, you should.  He's
terrifying.

Nat




Next Social Meeting

2001-04-20 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:54 PM

 Um, just to make this not a one-liner: davorg, are you going to post
 the decision of the emergency meeting meeting?

There was a decision? Oh, wait. I remember.

I'll be out of the country at the end of next week so I won't be able to
make a reasonable decision on going ahead.

I'm therefore going to delegate this decision-making to Jo. By next Friday,
she will decide whether to hold the meeting on the planned date (3th May) or
to postpone it for a week. Holding it the previous day doesn't sound like a
good option as tube services will start to run down from about 8:00pm that
day if the strike goes ahead.

Does that sound right?

Dave...

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dave Hodgkinson writes:
Norman Watt Roy ?
   Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
   Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)
  I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue.
 
 All good, but if you haven't seen Victor Wooten, you should.  He's
 terrifying.

Damn, I just remembered Ishaq van Niel. Saaw him quite a lot playing
with Hans Dulfer's band in Amsterdam.

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Paul Sharpe

Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 
 Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Dave Hodgkinson writes:
 Norman Watt Roy ?
Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)
   I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue.
 
  All good, but if you haven't seen Victor Wooten, you should.  He's
  terrifying.
 
 Damn, I just remembered Ishaq van Niel. Saaw him quite a lot playing
 with Hans Dulfer's band in Amsterdam.

And Squarepusher if you like Bunny Brunel/Jaco.  But remember *nothing*
is louder than drum and bass.

paul

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Re: BBC was Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-20 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 ObLon.pm:  A buffy DW crossover would be cool...  In fact:
 http://members.iglou.com/scarfman/dwxst.htm
 

Buffy as the Doctor's assistant, now that would rock. Picture it
some shambling monster is coming down the corridor, Buffy and the
Doctor are stopped a large metal door.

D One second my dear, i'll have this open.
*The doctor hunts around in many pockets for his sonic screwdriver,
 taking out bits of string and packets of jellybabies as he does.*
B Hurry Doctor!
D Yes yes, one moment here it is!
M g, *shamble*
*the doctor starts to examine the lock and mutters all the time*
B Hurry!
D Please quiet, this is very delicate, hmmm ... aha i think i know
*Buffy loses it, pulls down the doctor aside, kicks the door down and goes to run
 with the doctor out, but suddenly stops, turns around and proceeds to
 beat up the shambling mound*
D What? What?
B Don't mention it, you can make it up to me by taking me
   shopping - there is simply oodles of closet space to fill
   in the tardis.



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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Neil Ford

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:54:14PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
 On 20/04/2001 at 16:47 +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 
  5/2/2001   Pizza Express   London, England
 
 Which Pizza Express ?
 
 As far as I know the only one that does live jazz is the one on Dean
 Street.
 
Ummm not any more :-)

23 Bruton Place and 99 High Holborn both do jazz now.

Unfortunately the listing I have only covers March and April so I can't check
which one they are at.

Now somewhere we have complimentary tickets to the Jazz Club (one perk of
membership of their club), maybe this would be a good time to use them.

Neil.



RE: Mutagenic modules: online slides

2001-04-20 Thread Damian Conway

"You can't just make up any old shit and expect the computer to know what
you mean, retardo!"

Hey! Stop undermining the sole basis of my entire career!

Damian





Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-20 Thread Philip Newton

Nathan Torkington wrote:
 5/1/2001  Dingwalls   London, England
 5/2/2001  Pizza Express   London, England
 5/3/2001  Borderline  London, England
 5/4/2001  Ocean   London, England

Hey! All of those dates are already past! (And why do they only give one
concert a month?)

Cheers,
Phi ISO-8601 rules lip
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