Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2002-06-24

2002-07-04 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 10:57:35PM +0100, Chris Ball typed:
This is the (mumble+6)th summary of the London Perlmongers mailing list 

Leon's last summary was number 43, which would set mumble=44; or you
could count from the start of the year and set mumble=3.

(Oh, the summaries themselves are quite interesting too. :-)

Roger




Re: webmasterworld - conference

2002-07-04 Thread Andy Wardley

Greg McCarroll wrote:
 this is an interesting idea if we did it for perl, a one day perl
 conference in a pub. just one track, and a fairly social atmosphere -
 this might be a good medium for the people who have in the past
 suggested mini-YAPC's

And if we charge 200 people 45 quid a pop, that's 9 grand in our pocket, 
er I mean expense account.  OK, so we'll lose a grand providing some 
food, a projector, etc., but that's still a tidy old profit.  Er, I 
mean not-for-profit.

Sounds like not-for-profit means not-for-YOUR-profit.

Does make you think, doesn't it.  There's money in them there mini-conferences.

We should start First Thursday (or Day After First Wednesday which isn't 
quite as catchy) and invite lots of dumb business folk with large expense 
accounts to come and mingle with the people who keep the IT parts of their 
businesses running.

We print some glossy literature which talks about knowledge leverage,
maximising the return on information investment, riding the future wave
of the information revolution, etc., get the money up front (#459 quid 
sounds like a reasonable amount for an evening session), and we're laughing.

Enough to buy a camel and a round of beers.

A






Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread Leon Brocard

Simon Batistoni sent the following bits through the ether:

 I'm sure one of us from round here (me, blech, muttley predominantly)
 can bring t-shirts to any london.pm events if given a bit of warning. 

Stop complaining. You're never going to get rid of the tshirts unless
you bring them to the meetings. You have a whole six month's warning
of meetings if you look at http://london.pm.org/meetings/cal2002.html
btw. Of course, you could always sell them online...

Leon

btw I'm already carrying modperl tshirts to tpc, so I can't take
any there, sorry
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Re: webmasterworld - conference

2002-07-04 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Andy Wardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Greg McCarroll wrote:
  this is an interesting idea if we did it for perl, a one day perl
  conference in a pub. just one track, and a fairly social atmosphere -
  this might be a good medium for the people who have in the past
  suggested mini-YAPC's
 
 And if we charge 200 people 45 quid a pop, that's 9 grand in our pocket, 
 er I mean expense account.  OK, so we'll lose a grand providing some 
 food, a projector, etc., but that's still a tidy old profit.  Er, I 
 mean not-for-profit.
 

Of course in our version, i expected it to cost 10 quid and include a
meal.

Greg


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Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread Robert Shiels

From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 All of which reminds me. I assume that when we re-sponsoered
 the camel last year we got another load of free tickets. If this
 is true (Robert?) shall we have another trip this year.

 And also a reminder that our sponsorship runs out on August 6th
 (the 4th anniversary of our first meeting). Given that we haven't
 yet raised enough money to repay Robert for paying for it last
 year, I'm guessing that we probably don't want to do it again
 this year. But I may, of course, be wrong in that. What do you
 think?

I have about 30 tickets kicking about in my house somewhere. I wouldn't
don't think we want to commit ourselves again though. Money up front -
that's my new motto :)

/Robert





Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread David Cantrell

On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 11:26:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 alternatively, how many people have a complete set?

Meee!!!

I'm wearing zz9pluralzalpha today.

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Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread Natalie S. Ford

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 11:15:24AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 11:26:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  alternatively, how many people have a complete set?
 Meee!!!

aolme 2/aol

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Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread Mark Fowler

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, David Cantrell wrote:

 I'm wearing zz9pluralzalpha today.

Crap, me too.  OH NO WHAT A FASHION DISASTER.

Oooh, I had an idea.   Signed T-Shirts which we then sell on ebay (or I 
knock up a bidding script of my own)

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Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread the hatter

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Mark Fowler wrote:

 Oooh, I had an idea.   Signed T-Shirts which we then sell on ebay (or I
 knock up a bidding script of my own)

Signed t-shirts bearing the auction code that was used to run the auction
the shirt is being bought on ?  Limited editions of however many are sold
until someone spots something that really needs fixing in the code.


the hatter





Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread Simon Wistow

On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:34:21PM +0100, Mark Fowler said:
 Which brings us nicely onto the issue of tshirt sales.  What's happening 
 with that?

When I'm not ass deep in work I'm going to knock up a NTK style shop.

Taking Tshirts to the various conferences would be much appreciated (BSD
ones included).

I've also found 1 spare Large PimB tshirt nestling in the back of
my chest of drawers. I may auction this for some worthwhile cause.
Getting it signed by Larry, Damian or for extra comedy value Randal or
HFB (she later later apologised for calling me a sexist, misogynist,
wife beating shit but only after I bought her a drink) could only up
the price.

 

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Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread Simon Wistow

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 10:30:36AM +, the hatter said:
 Signed t-shirts bearing the auction code that was used to run the auction
 the shirt is being bought on ?  Limited editions of however many are sold
 until someone spots something that really needs fixing in the code.

We could flog em with a copy of *that* photo signed by everyone's
favourite drunken irishman.

If only we knew a company that printed hard copies of digital photos ...



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[JOB] short (month-ish) contract

2002-07-04 Thread Jon Antonovics

I'm passing on this request from one of our more clueful non-techies at the BBC ...

QUOTE

I am looking for a freelance perl developer. knowledge of bbc infrastructure ideal, 
though I can arrange an induction session. the work is for bbc english regions who run 
40 or so where I live sites staffed by around 120 staff. will be based in bush house, 
london.

three simple projects [simple in real world that is, complex in bbc world...]: 

forms for english regions production teams to generate xml - initially producing 
headlines for use in my bbc, index pages and on external sites. next phase is to 
extend to generating explicitly tagged content for Dcable and as ssis for websites [in 
other words a cheeky cps]

user comments system; again for english regions, form goes on any page with id, 
generates ssis, production teams  have web tool to manage comments they want published 
- slight complexity in that there are 40 odd er sites, so some work to do to make 
production end usable and foolproof [same goes for the xml form]

weather include - working with bbc weather center to produce standard weather includes 
usable across all 37 sites. includes will need to be customisable within each site. 
also involves interfacing with postcode db.

projects are underway, but stalled due to lack of committed resource - need picking 
up, finishing and developing. 

I need to be able to agree deadlines/priorities with the developer working on these 
and be confident those deadlines will be met.


___

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Managing Editor
BBC New Media
5th Floor NE Wing 
Bush House
PO Box 76 Strand
London WC2B 4PH

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You can email Tony direct: tony.pearson AT bbc.co.uk

Jon
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Access Microsoft MDB from Perl

2002-07-04 Thread Harper, Gareth

Unfortunately I don't have much of a choice about this, we've been given
some data, which is a microsoft access .mdb and has to be read.  (The
database is also horrible, and has 20 tables which link to each other via
magic numbers instead of using relations but I won't get into that).


I had a quick look on cpan for a DBD::Access or something similar, and the
best I came up with was DBD::ODBC.  I looked around a bit and I spotted
MDBtools (http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/) which seems very alpha, but I
suppose could be used at a push to pull the data out into some file format
which I can parse.

Another alternative would be to look into using (OLE|DDE|Whatever the
current flavour is) and control access using that, but again, that seems
like hard work.

The final last resort I can think of is writing Access VB and pulling the
data out, which I don't want to do.

Does anyone know of a perl module (ActivePerl only is fine, I'll succumb to
doing part of this on windows if I have to) which allows access to mdb
files.  I've seen modules for Excel files, but not Access.  Maybe I'm just
being dumb as usual.


Gareth.

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Re: Access Microsoft MDB from Perl

2002-07-04 Thread Nic Gibson

On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 11:57:09AM +0100, Harper, Gareth wrote:
 Unfortunately I don't have much of a choice about this, we've been given
 some data, which is a microsoft access .mdb and has to be read.  (The
 database is also horrible, and has 20 tables which link to each other via
 magic numbers instead of using relations but I won't get into that).


use Activeperl and DBD::ODBC. It works and it's pretty easy.

nic
 
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Re: Camel update

2002-07-04 Thread Peter Haworth

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:33:18 +0100 (BST), Mark Fowler wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, David Cantrell wrote:
 
  I'm wearing zz9pluralzalpha today.
 
 Crap, me too.  OH NO WHAT A FASHION DISASTER.

Oh dear, so am I. This is what happens when you have too many t-shirts to keep a 
proper rotation going.

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 it solves a multitude of problems -- the genuinely insane, the utterly
 uncontrollable, the truly evil, the merely different -- by locking them all
 up and throwing away the key.
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