Re: contracts

2002-11-22 Thread Roberthernik
>What part of "I don't give a monkeys about IR35 as I have no intention of
>being an evil tax-evader" did you not understand? :-)

Have you thought about going through an umbrella company? I started
contracting six months ago, and I am now looking for a new job, permanent
or contract! Anyway, as I was new to contracting and couldn't be bothered
with setting up a Ltd company or dodging IR35 I signed up with an umbrella
company called Prosperity4. You basically pay tax & NI like any normal
person, and they take 6% 'admin' fee and arrange all the paperwork etc.
It's not a cheap way to go about it but you can make some savings claiming
travel expenses etc.

Rob.




Perl coding standards

2002-11-22 Thread Ivor Williams
The following thread on Perlmonks seems quite timely following our discussion 
last night in the pub on use strict;

http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=214741





Re: contracts

2002-11-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 09:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >What part of "I don't give a monkeys about IR35 as I have no intention of
> >being an evil tax-evader" did you not understand? :-)
> 
> Have you thought about going through an umbrella company? I started
> contracting six months ago, and I am now looking for a new job, permanent
> or contract! Anyway, as I was new to contracting and couldn't be bothered
> with setting up a Ltd company or dodging IR35 I signed up with an umbrella
> company called Prosperity4. 

Ah, cold-callers.







Re: The Naughty List

2002-11-22 Thread Alex McLintock
At 17:46 21/11/02, Simon Wilcox wrote:

On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 20:17, David Cantrell wrote:
> There are several people still on the Naughty List from before I took over
> as Minister For Books.  In the next few days, I will be naming and shaming
> those who have yet to review the following:

> Programming Cold Fusion



I wouldn't mind reviewing this because I would like to learn more about 
ColdFusion without going to the expense of buying it.

PPS Who did I say I would give the Blogging review book to?


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Re: The Naughty List

2002-11-22 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 12:22, Alex McLintock wrote:
> At 17:46 21/11/02, Simon Wilcox wrote:
> >On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 20:17, David Cantrell wrote:
> > > There are several people still on the Naughty List from before I took over
> > > as Minister For Books.  In the next few days, I will be naming and shaming
> > > those who have yet to review the following:
> >
> > > Programming Cold Fusion
> 
> 
> I wouldn't mind reviewing this because I would like to learn more about 
> ColdFusion without going to the expense of buying it.
> 

Done. Will you be at the next social ?

Bookmeister - would you be so kind as to update the list ?

Simon.




Tech Meet Followup

2002-11-22 Thread Mark Fowler
Hello.

Thanks to everyone for the great tech meet last night.  Thanks to the
speakers for turning up and talking (and *finally* getting me all their
slides in advance.)  Thanks to Profero for the venue.  Thanks to Justin
and Tim for staying after work to help.  Thanks to everyone for turning
up.

Oh, and thanks to Leo for getting the slides online already:

   http://london.pm.org/tech_talks/21_nov_2002/

They're all there, with the exception of Lucy's phyiscal props, which were
a bit hard to digitise.  To console yourself there's the extra bonus Dave
Cantrell slides which weren't actually presented at the tech meet.

Right, enough of that.  Who wants to speak at the next one then?  It's
provisionally scheduled for the 23rd of Jan 2003 (venue allowing) and I'm
accepting lightning talks, twenty minute talks, and even fourty minute
talks/tutorials.

And yes, this *is* me trying to give speakers two months to write talks.

Mark.

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Re: The Peon's Guide To Secure System Development

2002-11-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Shevek wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

Hands up all those on this list who've found a bug in perl at some 
point?  ;-)

I seem to be able to make just about any compiler (Perl and gcc included) 
just fold up and exit without ceremony. I don't think it's anything to do 
with my code ... *snigger*

Oh, that's all the fun!  Goes all the way back to people trying to 
deliberately crash multics.

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Re: Book: Best of the Perl Journal

2002-11-22 Thread Graham Barr
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:11:55PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:53:55PM +, Graham Barr wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:27:24AM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
> > > Graham Barr wrote:
> > > > You can either collect it from me, or we could arrage to meet in a
> > > > local(-ish) pub...
> > > This sounds like the perfect opportunity to resurrect Surrey.pm.
> > > How about a meeting in Guildford one night next week or soon thereafter?
> > > 
> > > Fortunately, I am familiar with several of the local taverns and should
> > > have no trouble recommending one  :-)
> > Sounds good to me. David, pick a day thats good for you. I work
> > evenings, so whatever day it is means time off from work anyway.
> 
> Monday and Friday next week are free for me.

Either is fine with me.  Andy do you want to pick a suitable place.

Graham.




RE: Tech Meet Followup

2002-11-22 Thread Richard Clyne
No surely you are giving them six weeks notice of the fact they have two
weeks to write the talk!

-Original Message-
From: Mark Fowler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 November 2002 12:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tech Meet Followup


And yes, this *is* me trying to give speakers two months to write talks.

Mark.

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Re: The Naughty List

2002-11-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:25:50PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 12:22, Alex McLintock wrote:
> > I wouldn't mind reviewing this because I would like to learn more about 
> > ColdFusion without going to the expense of buying it.
> Done. Will you be at the next social ?
> Bookmeister - would you be so kind as to update the list ?

[clickety-click] done

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Re: Tech Meet Followup

2002-11-22 Thread Natalie S. Ford
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:53:37PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> They're all there, with the exception of Lucy's phyiscal props, which were
> a bit hard to digitise.


Oh.  Damn.  Nobody took digi photos?
Now I am doubly disapointed to have missed the tech meet...


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Re: Tech Meet Followup

2002-11-22 Thread Simon Wistow
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:53:37PM +, Mark Fowler said:
> Right, enough of that.  Who wants to speak at the next one then?  It's
> provisionally scheduled for the 23rd of Jan 2003 (venue allowing)
   
Having talked to Mark I've now booked Yahoo! Europe's (located next to
Victoria Coach Station) board room which comes with a overhead
projector. I can provide Mac and Windows machines pre connected if
necessary.

The board room has a very funky glass wall that turns opaque at the
touch of a button for that geek attraction factor.

I may also be able to persuade somebody here to talk about how Perl is
used at Yahoo! (a lot ... > 3 million lines not including the little
scripts everybody has lying around)

Simon





Re: The Peon's Guide To Secure System Development

2002-11-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 13:04, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> Shevek wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> >>Hands up all those on this list who've found a bug in perl at some 
> >>point?  ;-)
> > 
> > I seem to be able to make just about any compiler (Perl and gcc included) 
> > just fold up and exit without ceremony. I don't think it's anything to do 
> > with my code ... *snigger*
> 
> Oh, that's all the fun!  Goes all the way back to people trying to 
> deliberately crash multics.

Recursive batch file, right?







Re: REVIEW: Web Caching

2002-11-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:33:37AM -, Andy Williams (IMAP HILLWAY) wrote:
> Damn, this has been sat on my hard drive for a couple of months now!!!
> Must have forgotten to send it in.

I've uploaded this to the web site.

I also took the opportunity to reformat all the previous reviews so that
the meta-information is more consistent.  Yes, some data are missing for
some books, I hope to fill in the blanks this weekend.  If anyone spots
I made any boo-boos please let me know.  I made a backup before messing
with them all.

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[ANNOUNCE] Wikibot 0.21

2002-11-22 Thread Earle Martin
As promised at the technical meeting, Wikibot is now available for you to
play with.

http://downlode.org/perl/wikibot/

Thanks for the warm welcome yesterday. It wasn't half as scary as I thought
it would be.


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Re: RMS seminars in London

2002-11-22 Thread Earle Martin
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:10:28PM -, B. N. Moran wrote:
> People might like to know that Richard Stallman will be speaking at the
> London School of Economics on 2nd and 3rd of December.

I'm going to both; anyone else? Pub beforehand perhaps? 



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