LPW Slides: Badger Power
The slides for my Badger Power talk are here, complete with extended footnotes. http://badgerpower.com/talks/lpw2008/start.html This culminates in a bit a rambling rant about how hard it is to write generic software, why OO is fundamentally broken, and why coder reuse is more important than code reuse. http://badgerpower.com/talks/lpw2008/slide58.html I only mention this because a) it ties in nicely with something Ovid blogged about a few days ago (coincidentally on the same day I gave the talk, although I missed it until this morning, which was probably a good thing for the people in the audience). He also mentions Schwern's skimmable code talk of which I'm a fanboy. http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/37975 And b) it's an issue that cropped up in several different talks at LPW, including something that Matt Trout said (reported via another talk) along the lines of "This isn't fucking rocket science... so why is it so hard to write reusable software?". I don't claim to have any answers, btw. Nor is Badger the panacea for any|all of OO's ills. Far from it. But I do think skimmable/skimpy code is a Good Thing. Pictures of cute animals seems to help, too. And finally, thanks to everyone for making LPW a most enjoyable day. A
[ANNOUNCE] December social - Bridge House, SE1 - Thurs 4 Dec
Hello! The December social of the London Perlmongers is this Thursday, 4th December. We're going back to the Bridge House, which is the Adnams place at the south end of Tower Bridge. We have the upstairs function room booked from 6:30pm. It's a short walk from both London Bridge and Tower Hill stations. People who prefer buses have the choice of the RV1, 42, 47, 78, 188, 343, or 381. Maps, more info, etc: http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Bridge_House,_SE1_2UP The pub has a full range of well-kept Adnams beers, Aspall cider, and good food. The upstairs bar will be staffed for us. Standard blurb: Social meets are a chance for the various members of the group to meet up face to face and chat with each other about things - both Perl and non-Perl - and newcomers are more than welcome. The monthly meets tend to be bigger than the other ad hoc meetings that take place at other times, and we make sure that they're in easy to get to locations and the pub serves food (meaning that people can eat in the bar if they want to). They normally start around 6.30pm (or whenever people get there after work) and a group tends to be left come closing time. If you're a newcomer or other first timer (even if you've been lurking on the mailing list or on IRC) then please seek Leon out - we have a tradition that the leader of this motley crew buys the new people a drink (orange or not, either's fine) and introduces them to people.
Re: Arbyte Slides
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 12:16:45PM +, Alistair MacLeod said: > Work continues on making it CPAN ready. Some comments on Gearman and TheSchwartz which (kind of obviously) used quite a lot here at 6A. You're right about Gearman in that it's "Not Reliable" but potentially that's a poor choice of words - "Not Guaranteed" is probably a better way of putting it and it's deliberately designed that way - it's for use as a one shot tasks that you don't mind if they fail. For example I use it for firing off $n web request jobs simultaneously which update a cache. If after a timeout they've updated the cache then fine, otherwise I just use the old cache version. As for it not working - ping me off list or add an RT ticket (if you haven't already) and I'll take a look. As for the TheSchwartz you say it's not easily scalable - it uses Data::ObjectDriver and hence has inbuilt support for sharding. And trust me - it's scalable. We use it for everything here which, until fairly recently, included all of TypePad and LiveJournal simultaneously (including sending out all the email) :) Also, you say it doesn't have batching after submission - unless I'm misunderstanding you that's not actually true. If you look in the docs for TheSchwartz::Job you'll find the coalesce param to new() http://search.cpan.org/~bradfitz/TheSchwartz-1.07/lib/TheSchwartz/Job.pm#coalesce Which allows batching. Anyway, I've been thinking of writing something very similar to Arbyte so I'm looking forward to it. I notice you mentioned something about Jo bRunner::Simple that fork()s - one of the things I wnated was something that ran The various parts of Gearman (the injector, the Geamand and a number of workers) or TheSchwartz (the ibjector, the DB and a number of workers) all within the same process for testing purposes - is that the same kind of functionality that you're looking at providing? Thanks! Simon
Re: Pub for tomorrow?
Martin A. Brooks wrote: James Laver wrote: I don't believe I've ever seen you drink beer, Martin. Beer is dark and foamy and good, not light, fizzy and 'superchilled'. Unless you think conditions outside count as 'summer', and looking out of a window in the City, I can't agree... That's because I mostly don't drink beer. If I wanted to toss sour, astringic liquid down my throat, I'd do it properly and suck on a lemon. There's a few exceptions, like double chocolate stout, and banana bread beer, and waggle dance, but mostly it just tastes like what you get if you pour warm water and a dash of fairy liquid into a recently used and, not yet washed, roasting tin, then swill it around, sieve, pour and serve. Sadly any of these beers give me gout. So it is either red wine or decent (genuine) german lager for me these days. Sigh... Dirk
Arbyte Slides
Hi, Slides used for my talk now at http://www.slideshare.net/lokku/arbyte-a-modular-flexible-scalable-job-queing-and-execution-system-presentation/ (Arg, long URL) Work continues on making it CPAN ready. -- Alistair MacLeod PGP Key: http://www.biscuitsfruit.org.uk/~alistair/pubkey.asc
London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: Bamboo Basket
There are many Perl hackers at the BBC, but all the dim sum restaurants in London used to be quite far for them - until now! Westfield London has just opened in Shepherd's Bush. It's a large shopping centre and it has a dim sum restaurant. London.pm dim sum is a social event where we meet up every Thursday at a different Chinese restaurant, spend about an hour (and about £10 cash) eating tasty dim sum (steamed and fried dumplings), then go our separate ways. Bamboo Basket Westfield London Shephard's Bush Tube Station http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=W127SL http://uk.westfield.com/london/find/detail/dining?category=2020&retailer=35482 http://uk.westfield.com/london/find/map/dining?category=2020&retailer=35482 See you there! Léon, London.pm Dim Sum Mandarin
Re: Pub next year (was Re: Pub for tomorrow?)
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:16:10PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > The range "1st December - February" encompasses Thursday, 1st January, which > as any heretic knows is not the date for the original orthodox meeting. > > Or something like that. > > But we're looking for a pub for the hardy souls who will be out on the 1st, > rather than waiting for Thursday 8th? > > (Or is this nothing to do with our wonderful pub minion, and instead something > for our official bad influence to, um, "influence") I suppose I'd better announce my Plan then, hadn't I. -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence There is no one true indentation style, But if there were K&R would be Its Prophets. Peace be upon Their Holy Beards.
Re: LPW: Slides... DBIC and new recommendations!
2008/11/30 Leo Lapworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I've put the slides from my talk (the 20 min version) online: > > http://www.slideshare.net/ranguard/dbixclass-beginners-presentation/ That looks handy. I have put the slides up for my talk, too, which was probably too long before the previous speaker overran by a while. So if anybody feels they missed out by not seeing all of it (or any of it) you can feast your eyes on: http://www.slideshare.net/joelbernstein/painless-oo-xml-with-xmlpastorq-presentation/ Personally I was disappointed to be scheduled alongside two talks that I really wanted to see. So I'm hoping others follow suit and put their talk slides online, and link them off their talk pages on the LPW website.. > Anyway thanks to everyone that made is such a great day. Agreed, I had a great time. Thanks to everyone. /joel
Re: Pub for tomorrow?
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:46:55PM +, Martin A. Brooks wrote: > That's because I mostly don't drink beer. If I wanted to toss sour, > astringic liquid down my throat, I'd do it properly and suck on a > lemon. There's a few exceptions, like double chocolate stout, and > banana bread beer, and waggle dance, but mostly it just tastes like what > you get if you pour warm water and a dash of fairy liquid into a > recently used and, not yet washed, roasting tin, then swill it around, > sieve, pour and serve. Sieve? SIEVE? But you're missing out on the Burnt And Crunchy Bits! Philistine. -- David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world Guns aren't the problem. People who deserve to die are the problem.
Re: London.pm Leader
2008/12/1 Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> If there is anyone out there who still doubts that London.pm is a >> place where all things are possible; who still wonders if the dream of >> our founders is alive in our time; who still questions the power of >> our democracy, tonight is your answer. It's the answer spoken by young >> and old, rich and poor, CPAN authors and CPAN users, developers, >> hackers, creators, designers, Londoners and out-of-Londoners - mongers >> who sent a message to the world that we have never been a collection >> of object-oriented programmers and procedural programmers: we are, and >> always will be, London Perl Mongers. >> > Nothing in the above should be taken as meaning that London.pm is infact > a democracy of course ... I've only just realised the origin of that ... which is especially bad as I watched him say it live on TV at 4am. For a while there I just thought leon was especially good at writing prose :) A. -- http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk LAMP System Integration, Development and Hosting
