Re: *.perl.org facelift

2008-12-07 Thread Ovid
- Original Message 

> From: Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift.
> 
>   http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html
> 
> At the moment it's just a stick in the ground.  It's probably the
> wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start.


Out of curiosity, have you spoken with pudge about this?  He hasn't seemed 
interested, but I could be wrong.

Cheers,
Ovid
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RE: *.perl.org facelift

2008-12-07 Thread bloke
>I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift.
>
>   http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html
>
>At the moment it's just a stick in the ground.  It's probably the
>wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start.
>
>Pass it on.
>
>A

This looks brilliant. A lot of Perl sites certainly could do with a face lift. 
I think it'd go a long way towards making Perl look more alive :)


PerlBloke


Perl is Alive!

2008-12-07 Thread bloke
and kicking!

Perl 5 doesn't need to be hip and new (like some people seem to think python 
and ruby are), Perl 6 will fix that

Perl 5 is itself growing and evolving, bridging the gap to Perl 6

Parrot v1 is soon to hit the shelves

Rakudo should be soon to follow

The dusty old conservatives of the Perl community will slowly accept Perl 6 
because it is a better *Perl*

LPM seems to be slowly becoming more friendly to new comers (even Matt Trout 
was talking at LPW about new people getting involved and getting friendly 
support from the community)

Newer groups like Italy, B&BPM, etc, seem to be going from strength to strength

A lot of new (and old) ideas are coming up... Some people will make attempts to 
take them forward... After all once it's started, you never know who'll help or 
finish it...

Perl itself doesn't need to make changes to attract new programmers. Perl is 
great, that's why we are all here :) All we need is to make new people try 
coding Perl. Perl does the rest. Looking to hard at other languages and trying 
to pull programmers from them is futile (unless you are talking about ones like 
VB). The future is with the youth, and the solution is simple, as Tony said 
"Education, Education, Education!".


Perlbloke


Re: *.perl.org facelift

2008-12-07 Thread Nigel Hamilton
>
> This looks brilliant. A lot of Perl sites certainly could do with a face
> lift. I think it'd go a long way towards making Perl look more alive :)
>


I especially like "the Onion" logo - Perl's official trademark never looked
better. ;-)

Nige


Re: *.perl.org facelift

2008-12-07 Thread Andy Wardley

Ovid wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you spoken with pudge about this?  

> He hasn't seemed interested, but I could be wrong.

I've (just) pinged him a heads-up in case he hasn't seen it, but his
other comments in the thread seem to suggest that it's not his highest
priority right now.

But that's cool.  It was really only supposed to be a bit of tentative
dabbling to see where inspiration might strike.  A couple of people have
already expressed an interest in dabbling with it further so it might go
somewhere yet.

I was also mindful of Andy's comment:

However, I'd strongly suggest that you come up with actual prototypes of
what you want to change to BEFORE contacting them. Lord knows they've had
enough people bluster in and say "I want to change perl.org's front page!"
with no results.

With that in mind, I thought it better to sketch out some ideas first before
putting my head above the parapet.

I suspect that it'll end up being a bikeshed-painting project, but we live
in hope.

A