Re: Coming to London

2009-07-30 Thread James Laver

On 30 Jul 2009, at 22:16, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:


No, like Paris, London closes and goes off to Margate.


Cut it out, he's being nice.

Yes, there will be people here. Call some sort of event.

I myself will be back here on Sunday.

--James



Re: Coming to London

2009-07-30 Thread Dave Hodgkinson


On 30 Jul 2009, at 19:30, David H. Adler wrote:


I'm going to be in London the weekend following YAPC::EU. Is anyone
going to be around?



No, like Paris, London closes and goes off to Margate.

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Coming to London

2009-07-30 Thread David H. Adler
I'm going to be in London the weekend following YAPC::EU. Is anyone
going to be around?

dha

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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Dave Hodgkinson


On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:56, Christopher Jones wrote:


So, the complete opposite of the original Mac/PC ads then



1. Mitchell and Webb are professional comedians and can make a menu
sound funny.

2. PC's suck and deserve to be belittled.


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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Christopher Jones

On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:34, Joel Bernstein wrote:



On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:23, Peter Corlett wrote:


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:59:47PM +0100, Denny wrote:
[...]

Sign: YOU CAN EARN $$$ WITH PERL!!
JAPH: *places sticker reading 'WRITE' over 'EARN'*
JAPH: *writes underneath* ...and it will compile and run.


Well, that's the first one that's actually amusing enough to make  
me grin.


I think what's particularly nice here is that it doesn't seem to be  
a joke at another group's expense. This script would be harder than  
some of the others to construe negatively. As Perl programmers we  
ought to know from personal experience the negative impacts of  
(being seen as) spreading FUD.


 It's essential, I feel, that the output of this nice marketing  
idea gives a mature impression to people who see the videos.


So, the complete opposite of the original Mac/PC ads then


Chris




Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Paul Makepeace wrote:



I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and
well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord
knows, there's enough scope for that.


not really fun but quite obvious since a lot of you are going to be at 
YAPC:EU next week.


perl.en: Hi, my name is perl
perl.fr: Salut, mon nom est perl
perl.de: Hi, mein Name ist perl
perl.pt: Oi, meu nome é perl
and so on until youve exhausted the possibilites
all: there is more than one way to do it!

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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Andy Armstrong

On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:34, Joel Bernstein wrote:
Well, that's the first one that's actually amusing enough to make  
me grin.


I think what's particularly nice here is that it doesn't seem to be  
a joke at another group's expense. This script would be harder than  
some of the others to construe negatively. As Perl programmers we  
ought to know from personal experience the negative impacts of  
(being seen as) spreading FUD.



Well said. They should be gently self deprecating I think.

--
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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Lush

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Paul Makepeace wrote:

I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and
well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord
knows, there's enough scope for that.



(guy in t shirt)Hi I'm Perl
(guy on trampolene) Hi I'm Befunge
.
.

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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Joel Bernstein


On 30 Jul 2009, at 14:23, Peter Corlett wrote:


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:59:47PM +0100, Denny wrote:
[...]

Sign: YOU CAN EARN $$$ WITH PERL!!
JAPH: *places sticker reading 'WRITE' over 'EARN'*
JAPH: *writes underneath* ...and it will compile and run.


Well, that's the first one that's actually amusing enough to make me  
grin.


I think what's particularly nice here is that it doesn't seem to be a  
joke at another group's expense. This script would be harder than some  
of the others to construe negatively. As Perl programmers we ought to  
know from personal experience the negative impacts of (being seen as)  
spreading FUD.


 It's essential, I feel, that the output of this nice marketing idea  
gives a mature impression to people who see the videos.


/joel


Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Peter Corlett
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:59:47PM +0100, Denny wrote:
[...]
> Sign: YOU CAN EARN $$$ WITH PERL!!
> JAPH: *places sticker reading 'WRITE' over 'EARN'*
> JAPH: *writes underneath* ...and it will compile and run.

Well, that's the first one that's actually amusing enough to make me grin.

Give that man a beer!



Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Philip Newton
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 15:04, Bob Walker wrote:
> perl5.8: Hello my name is perl five point eight
> perl5.8: far too long lets try this
> perl5.8: hi my name is perl5.8
> perl5.8: still to long!
> perl5.8: hi im perl5.8
> perl5.10: dude, just say hi
perl5.005_03: don't you mean 5.008?

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Paul Makepeace wrote:



I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and
well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord
knows, there's enough scope for that.


perl5.8: Hello my name is perl five point eight
perl5.8: far too long lets try this
perl5.8: hi my name is perl5.8
perl5.8: still to long!
perl5.8: hi im perl5.8
perl5.10: dude, just say hi

can you see what i did there :)



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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread James Laver
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Donato Azevedo wrote:
>
> Im not really creative,

Nor were the original adverts. In fact I'd say you're doing somewhat
better than the original adverts.

--James


Re: Tricky localization/scope question

2009-07-30 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 02:20:40AM -0700, Randy J. Ray wrote:
> Struan Donald wrote:
> > * at 27/07 17:01 -0700 Randy J. Ray said:
> >> So, let's assume there's a module called "Test::Without"[1] 
> > I'm not sure if you've seen it but there is a Test::Without::Module
> > already on the CPAN that does the file part of what you want.
> Alas, it lacks lexical scoping. Moreover, how it does things is even hackier
> than what I have in mind :-). Still, room for one more. TIMTOWTDI, and all 
> that...

There's also Devel::Hide.  That can also hide modules from child
processes which is useful for testing, eg, scripts that you distribute
with your code.

-- 
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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Denny
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 09:49 +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and
> well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord
> knows, there's enough scope for that.

Sign: YOU CAN EARN $$$ WITH PERL!!
JAPH: *places sticker reading 'WRITE' over 'EARN'*
JAPH: *writes underneath* ...and it will compile and run.



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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Donato Azevedo
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and
> well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord
> knows, there's enough scope for that.

Perl: Yarble garble yata yata yata foo bar
Perl (instants later): JAPH
Perl: but obfuscated

Perl: Hi, I'm Perl!
Java (guy standing awckwardly still): W a i t, Im collecting garbage!
Perl (sighs and walks off)
Java (guy resuming...):As I was just saying Y2K is rally gonna get us!

Perl: Hi I'm Perl!
Java: Hi I'm Java!
Perl: What's with the orange jump suit?
Java: I'm off to collect some garbage, see you in two to twelve weeks...

Im not really creative, but someone may want to work on these...

Cheers!
-- 
Donato Azevedo


Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Ovid

- Original Message 

> From: Chisel Wright 
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:26:30AM -0700, Ovid wrote:
> > Python (Japanese): I'm Ruby.
> 
> Why is Java pretending to be someone else?


Er, how the heck did I miss that?  Evidently my attempting to figure out how to 
downgrade Perl on Ubuntu has led to me hallucinating.

Cheers,
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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Chisel Wright
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:26:30AM -0700, Ovid wrote:
> Python (Japanese): I'm Ruby.

Why is Java pretending to be someone else?


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London social meetings/dim sum/drinks or something on the 1st and 14th August?

2009-07-30 Thread Paul Fenwick
G'day everyone,

Jacinta and myself will be arriving in London late tomorrow (23:00, 31st
July, Stansted airport) before flying off to Lisbon first thing Sunday
morning (07:10, 2nd August, Luton airport).

We're planning to catch up with some friends for lunch on the 1st and spend
some of the afternoon exploring your lovely city.  We're also hoping to
catch up with as many of you as available for dim sum or other meal option
in the early evening.

We'll have our bags with us (1 backpack each, plus laptops), so if anyone
has any suggestions on where we might find lockers to store them then that
would be awesome.  I'm hoping that we may have some luck where we get off
(and later on) the easybus at Baker Street, but a confirmation would be
appreciated.

After YAPC::EU and a lightning tour of the very western parts of Europe
we'll be back again in London on the evening of the 14th (arriving at Kings
Cross Station at 17:15).  If anyone is up for another social that evening,
we'd love to share a meal and/or some cider with you again before we start
the very long flight home leaving early the next morning.

So, if you're available to catch up with us on the evenings of the 1st
and/or 14th August, then let myself (or the list) know, and we'll be glad to
see you.

Looking forward to seeing you soon,

Paul

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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Rafael
Garcia-Suarez wrote:
> 2009/7/29 Ovid :
>> Python (Japanese): I'm Ruby.

"Python: I'm Ruby."

Shouldn't that be "Perl 6: I can be Ruby."

**

I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and
well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord
knows, there's enough scope for that.

Paul (will ponder)


Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
2009/7/29 Ovid :
> Python (Japanese): I'm Ruby.
> Perl: I'm Perl.
> Python:  I'm a clean, modern language.
> Perl: Hey, you're Japanese. Don't you write that funny Kanji stuff? How can 
> you read that?
> Python: Hey, it's a beautiful, expressive style of writing. It's not my fault 
> if you've never troubled to learn it.
> Perl: My point.

Except that in Kanji, there is often more than one way to do it...
I imagine Python incarnated by a lawyer or something.