RE: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Chris Jack

Solli wrote:
 My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to get my
 
My name is Solli and I'm a Brazilian Perl Monger. I am coming to London to


 English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a

improve my English. My plan is to become fluent in English and gain
 
 
 entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job

experience of British life. I'm looking for a part-time job in the London area

 
 (limited by student visa) in the London area.

but am limited by my student visa.
 
 
 
Chris

  
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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Dave Cross
On 01/11/2010 12:11 PM, Chris Jack wrote:
 
 Solli wrote:

[ Snip rather patronising English lesson ]

 Chris

Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker
feel welcome. Thanks for your input.

Dave...


Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Hakim Cassimally
2010/1/11 Solli Honorio shono...@gmail.com:
 Fellows

 My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to get my
 English improved.
 As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a
 entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job
 (limited by student visa) in the London area.

Hi Solli, welcome to the UK this Spring :-) and good luck with the
English and the job.

 I will be in London from March, 11th to June, 20th. If your company is
 hiring or somewhat interested on offering me a job, my profile is available
 at http://www.linkedin.com/in/shonorio.

You'll also maybe want to look at:

   http://jobs.perl.org/
   http://london.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs

to see what's coming up.

[Chris]: I'm going to guess your reply was intended to be helpful?
(I have to guess, quite hard, to read it as anything other than rude ;-)

osfameron


Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Solli Honorio
Chirs,

Thanks to make me clear ... that why I need improve my English.

Solli

2010/1/11 Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com


 Solli wrote:
  My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to get
 my

 My name is Solli and I'm a Brazilian Perl Monger. I am coming to London to


  English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a

 improve my English. My plan is to become fluent in English and gain


  entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job

 experience of British life. I'm looking for a part-time job in the London
 area


  (limited by student visa) in the London area.

 but am limited by my student visa.



 Chris


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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Richard Foley
He he he

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On Monday 11 January 2010 13:16:16 Solli Honorio wrote:
 Chirs,

 Thanks to make me clear ... that why I need improve my English.

 Solli

 2010/1/11 Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com

  Solli wrote:
   My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to
   get
 
  my
 
  My name is Solli and I'm a Brazilian Perl Monger. I am coming to London
  to
 
   English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a
 
  improve my English. My plan is to become fluent in English and gain
 
   entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job
 
  experience of British life. I'm looking for a part-time job in the London
  area
 
   (limited by student visa) in the London area.
 
  but am limited by my student visa.
 
 
 
  Chris
 
 
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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Luis Motta Campos
Solli Honorio wrote:
 Fellows
 
 My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to
 get my English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English,
 and has a entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time
 job (limited by student visa) in the London area.
 
 I will be in London from March, 11th to June, 20th. If your company
 is hiring or somewhat interested on offering me a job, my profile is
 available at http://www.linkedin.com/in/shonorio.
 
 Thanks everybody.

I know Solli personally for some years now, and had some work experience
with him.

I've passed the São Paulo Perl Mongers leadership to him in Dec 2005, in
order to assume a job in Lisbon, where I worked with Joel Bernstein. I'm
willing to provide references to whoever is interested in hiring Solli.

Chris: I tend to believe osfameron observed correctly and your intention
was to be helpful. Please make it clear next time, I believe Solli will
appreciate your input on language and culture if you make it clear.

Cheers
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Perl Programmer, foodie and photographer.


Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Dominic Thoreau
2010/1/11 Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk:

 Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker
 feel welcome. Thanks for your input.

To be honest, I didn't see much wrong with the initial email. On
looking again, there are some  idiosyncrasies

The fact that I didn't notice them on first reading is a definite sign
that I've been working with the Dutch for too long.
-- 
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and
remove all doubt.
-- Abraham Lincoln


Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

On 11 Jan 2010, at 13:46, Dominic Thoreau wrote:

 2010/1/11 Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk:
 
 Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker
 feel welcome. Thanks for your input.
 
 To be honest, I didn't see much wrong with the initial email. On
 looking again, there are some  idiosyncrasies
 
 The fact that I didn't notice them on first reading is a definite sign
 that I've been working with the Dutch for too long.

The beauty of English is that it can be dealt with idiosyncratically
and still make sense.

I've worked in Holland, France, Germany and now have lots of Taiwanese
friends and it's been...interesting :)

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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Philip Newton
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 14:06, Hakim Cassimally
hakim.cassima...@gmail.com wrote:
 [Chris]: I'm going to guess your reply was intended to be helpful?

That's how I read it.

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11 Jan 2010, at 13:46, Dominic Thoreau wrote:

 2010/1/11 Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk:

 Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker
 feel welcome. Thanks for your input.

 To be honest, I didn't see much wrong with the initial email. On
 looking again, there are some  idiosyncrasies

 The fact that I didn't notice them on first reading is a definite sign
 that I've been working with the Dutch for too long.

 The beauty of English is that it can be dealt with idiosyncratically
 and still make sense.

I think that's more a property of language than English specifically.
I'd be curious to hear of any language where grammar/idiom errors
suddenly render it incomprehensible.

 I've worked in Holland, France, Germany and now have lots of Taiwanese
 friends and it's been...interesting :)

Because you keep insisting how Great Britain is? ;-)

Paul


Re: London Perlm[ou]ngers January 2010 social - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET

2010-01-11 Thread Smylers
On Thursday James Laver wrote:

 Just a reminder that this is today.

Thanks for arranging this, James.

 Last time we ate the Gunmakers out of meat and drank it out of 3 of 4
 beers. Lets beat that this time, eh?

Well, we (a fairly select group, given the weather) ate it out of steak
sandwiches and drank it out of Curiosity Cola.  I'm not entirely sure
whether that qualifies as beating the previous attempt, but it's
probably a first.

Léon Brocard writes:

 How did it go?

It was fun.  I really liked the pub -- the staff were friendly, they had
a nice range of soft drinks, and the food gave the impression of both
the menu being designed and the meals prepared by somebody who cares.

I learnt that Stephen has a beer review podcast, The Beer Crate, which
can be found here:  http://www.thebeercrate.com/

He also had a print-on-demand beer-related book which looked worth
reading, but I've been unable to locate where that's available from.
Stephen?

Bob MacCallum writes:

 The back room was a bit chilly, but the steak sandwich was excellent.
 I hope you guys were able to move into the main bit later on

Probably we were _able_ do do that, but apparently it didn't occur to
any of us (and certainly not those of us who were hogging a radiator).

 (I left at around 9 to catch a train that had ceased to exist).

Eeek -- sorry to hear that.

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RE: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Chris Jack


I thought it was explicit in Solli's post that he was looking to improve his 
English and he seems to have taken my reply in that spirit. I don't believe it 
is either patronising or rude to give correction when it has been asked for but 
I apologise if anyone has taken offence.
 
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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Jacqui Caren-home

Paul Makepeace wrote:

I'd be curious to hear of any language where grammar/idiom errors
suddenly render it incomprehensible.


reverse polish?




Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Matthew Boyle

Paul Makepeace wrote:

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote:

The beauty of English is that it can be dealt with idiosyncratically
and still make sense.


I think that's more a property of language than English specifically.
I'd be curious to hear of any language where grammar/idiom errors
suddenly render it incomprehensible.


you've never seen the comments on youtube or have your say?

--matt


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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

On 11 Jan 2010, at 16:16, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 
 I think that's more a property of language than English specifically.
 I'd be curious to hear of any language where grammar/idiom errors
 suddenly render it incomprehensible.

The French spit in your face if you get it wrong.

And mis-tone Mandarin and you're like to be insulting someone's 
ancestors. Try gui (mistletoe), guī (39 meanings), guí (a river in
Shanxi), guǐ (25 meanings but usually good) , or guì (45 meanings
but usually expensve).


 
 I've worked in Holland, France, Germany and now have lots of Taiwanese
 friends and it's been...interesting :)
 
 Because you keep insisting how Great Britain is? ;-)

Pfst.

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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Ruud H.G. van Tol

Dave Cross wrote:

Chris Jack:

Solli:



[ Snip rather patronising English lesson ]


Chris


Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker
feel welcome. Thanks for your input.


You are what you read. I liked it. But hey, I don't like softies.

--
Ruud

don't like? how soft!


Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Solli Honorio
Chris, your email was not rude for and I really appreciate your correction.

Solli M. Honorio

2010/1/11 Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com



 I thought it was explicit in Solli's post that he was looking to improve
 his English and he seems to have taken my reply in that spirit. I don't
 believe it is either patronising or rude to give correction when it has been
 asked for but I apologise if anyone has taken offence.

 Chris
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Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Andrew Beattie

Dave Hodgkinson wrote:

The French spit in your face if you get it wrong.
  

I think that the French are somewhat dissapointed that the lingua franca was
previously French across Europe but is now English, across the globe.

Andrew


Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area

2010-01-11 Thread Richard Foley
Quite right, too.

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On Tuesday 12 January 2010 04:07:40 Andrew Beattie wrote:
 Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
  The French spit in your face if you get it wrong.

 I think that the French are somewhat dissapointed that the lingua franca
 was previously French across Europe but is now English, across the globe.

 Andrew