RE: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Solli wrote: My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to get my My name is Solli and I'm a Brazilian Perl Monger. I am coming to London to English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a improve my English. My plan is to become fluent in English and gain entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job experience of British life. I'm looking for a part-time job in the London area (limited by student visa) in the London area. but am limited by my student visa. Chris _ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
On 01/11/2010 12:11 PM, Chris Jack wrote: Solli wrote: [ Snip rather patronising English lesson ] Chris Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker feel welcome. Thanks for your input. Dave...
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
2010/1/11 Solli Honorio shono...@gmail.com: Fellows My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to get my English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job (limited by student visa) in the London area. Hi Solli, welcome to the UK this Spring :-) and good luck with the English and the job. I will be in London from March, 11th to June, 20th. If your company is hiring or somewhat interested on offering me a job, my profile is available at http://www.linkedin.com/in/shonorio. You'll also maybe want to look at: http://jobs.perl.org/ http://london.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs to see what's coming up. [Chris]: I'm going to guess your reply was intended to be helpful? (I have to guess, quite hard, to read it as anything other than rude ;-) osfameron
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Chirs, Thanks to make me clear ... that why I need improve my English. Solli 2010/1/11 Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com Solli wrote: My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to get my My name is Solli and I'm a Brazilian Perl Monger. I am coming to London to English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a improve my English. My plan is to become fluent in English and gain entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job experience of British life. I'm looking for a part-time job in the London area (limited by student visa) in the London area. but am limited by my student visa. Chris _ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ -- o animal satisfeito dorme. - Guimarães Rosa
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
He he he -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/ On Monday 11 January 2010 13:16:16 Solli Honorio wrote: Chirs, Thanks to make me clear ... that why I need improve my English. Solli 2010/1/11 Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com Solli wrote: My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to get my My name is Solli and I'm a Brazilian Perl Monger. I am coming to London to English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a improve my English. My plan is to become fluent in English and gain entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job experience of British life. I'm looking for a part-time job in the London area (limited by student visa) in the London area. but am limited by my student visa. Chris _ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Solli Honorio wrote: Fellows My name is Solli (a Brazilian Perl Monger) that is going to London to get my English improved. As a part of tactics to get fluent English, and has a entire British life experience, I'm looking for a part-time job (limited by student visa) in the London area. I will be in London from March, 11th to June, 20th. If your company is hiring or somewhat interested on offering me a job, my profile is available at http://www.linkedin.com/in/shonorio. Thanks everybody. I know Solli personally for some years now, and had some work experience with him. I've passed the São Paulo Perl Mongers leadership to him in Dec 2005, in order to assume a job in Lisbon, where I worked with Joel Bernstein. I'm willing to provide references to whoever is interested in hiring Solli. Chris: I tend to believe osfameron observed correctly and your intention was to be helpful. Please make it clear next time, I believe Solli will appreciate your input on language and culture if you make it clear. Cheers -- Luis Motta Campos is a software engineer, Perl Programmer, foodie and photographer.
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
2010/1/11 Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk: Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker feel welcome. Thanks for your input. To be honest, I didn't see much wrong with the initial email. On looking again, there are some idiosyncrasies The fact that I didn't notice them on first reading is a definite sign that I've been working with the Dutch for too long. -- Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. -- Abraham Lincoln
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
On 11 Jan 2010, at 13:46, Dominic Thoreau wrote: 2010/1/11 Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk: Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker feel welcome. Thanks for your input. To be honest, I didn't see much wrong with the initial email. On looking again, there are some idiosyncrasies The fact that I didn't notice them on first reading is a definite sign that I've been working with the Dutch for too long. The beauty of English is that it can be dealt with idiosyncratically and still make sense. I've worked in Holland, France, Germany and now have lots of Taiwanese friends and it's been...interesting :) -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://www.davehodgkinson.com/blog Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 14:06, Hakim Cassimally hakim.cassima...@gmail.com wrote: [Chris]: I'm going to guess your reply was intended to be helpful? That's how I read it. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton philip.new...@gmail.com
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Jan 2010, at 13:46, Dominic Thoreau wrote: 2010/1/11 Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk: Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker feel welcome. Thanks for your input. To be honest, I didn't see much wrong with the initial email. On looking again, there are some idiosyncrasies The fact that I didn't notice them on first reading is a definite sign that I've been working with the Dutch for too long. The beauty of English is that it can be dealt with idiosyncratically and still make sense. I think that's more a property of language than English specifically. I'd be curious to hear of any language where grammar/idiom errors suddenly render it incomprehensible. I've worked in Holland, France, Germany and now have lots of Taiwanese friends and it's been...interesting :) Because you keep insisting how Great Britain is? ;-) Paul
Re: London Perlm[ou]ngers January 2010 social - The Gunmakers, Clerkenwell EC1R 5ET
On Thursday James Laver wrote: Just a reminder that this is today. Thanks for arranging this, James. Last time we ate the Gunmakers out of meat and drank it out of 3 of 4 beers. Lets beat that this time, eh? Well, we (a fairly select group, given the weather) ate it out of steak sandwiches and drank it out of Curiosity Cola. I'm not entirely sure whether that qualifies as beating the previous attempt, but it's probably a first. Léon Brocard writes: How did it go? It was fun. I really liked the pub -- the staff were friendly, they had a nice range of soft drinks, and the food gave the impression of both the menu being designed and the meals prepared by somebody who cares. I learnt that Stephen has a beer review podcast, The Beer Crate, which can be found here: http://www.thebeercrate.com/ He also had a print-on-demand beer-related book which looked worth reading, but I've been unable to locate where that's available from. Stephen? Bob MacCallum writes: The back room was a bit chilly, but the steak sandwich was excellent. I hope you guys were able to move into the main bit later on Probably we were _able_ do do that, but apparently it didn't occur to any of us (and certainly not those of us who were hogging a radiator). (I left at around 9 to catch a train that had ceased to exist). Eeek -- sorry to hear that. Smylers -- Watch fiendish TV quiz 'Only Connect' (some questions by me) Mondays at 20:30 on BBC4, or iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lskhg
RE: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
I thought it was explicit in Solli's post that he was looking to improve his English and he seems to have taken my reply in that spirit. I don't believe it is either patronising or rude to give correction when it has been asked for but I apologise if anyone has taken offence. Chris _ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Paul Makepeace wrote: I'd be curious to hear of any language where grammar/idiom errors suddenly render it incomprehensible. reverse polish?
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Paul Makepeace wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote: The beauty of English is that it can be dealt with idiosyncratically and still make sense. I think that's more a property of language than English specifically. I'd be curious to hear of any language where grammar/idiom errors suddenly render it incomprehensible. you've never seen the comments on youtube or have your say? --matt -- Matthew Boyle, Systems Administrator, CoreFiling Limited Telephone: +44-1865-203192 Website: http://www.corefiling.com
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
On 11 Jan 2010, at 16:16, Paul Makepeace wrote: I think that's more a property of language than English specifically. I'd be curious to hear of any language where grammar/idiom errors suddenly render it incomprehensible. The French spit in your face if you get it wrong. And mis-tone Mandarin and you're like to be insulting someone's ancestors. Try gui (mistletoe), guī (39 meanings), guí (a river in Shanxi), guǐ (25 meanings but usually good) , or guì (45 meanings but usually expensve). I've worked in Holland, France, Germany and now have lots of Taiwanese friends and it's been...interesting :) Because you keep insisting how Great Britain is? ;-) Pfst. -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://www.davehodgkinson.com/blog Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Dave Cross wrote: Chris Jack: Solli: [ Snip rather patronising English lesson ] Chris Yeah. That's _exactly_ the best way to make a non-native English speaker feel welcome. Thanks for your input. You are what you read. I liked it. But hey, I don't like softies. -- Ruud don't like? how soft!
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Chris, your email was not rude for and I really appreciate your correction. Solli M. Honorio 2010/1/11 Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com I thought it was explicit in Solli's post that he was looking to improve his English and he seems to have taken my reply in that spirit. I don't believe it is either patronising or rude to give correction when it has been asked for but I apologise if anyone has taken offence. Chris _ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ -- o animal satisfeito dorme. - Guimarães Rosa
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: The French spit in your face if you get it wrong. I think that the French are somewhat dissapointed that the lingua franca was previously French across Europe but is now English, across the globe. Andrew
Re: Brazilian PM looking for a job in London area
Quite right, too. -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/ On Tuesday 12 January 2010 04:07:40 Andrew Beattie wrote: Dave Hodgkinson wrote: The French spit in your face if you get it wrong. I think that the French are somewhat dissapointed that the lingua franca was previously French across Europe but is now English, across the globe. Andrew