Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Jacqui Caren-home

Smylers wrote:

Seems a little harsh to reject people for that.


Some people forget an interview goes two ways - they "measure" you and vice 
versa.

I remember having an interview in the south of france for a MPP provider and
after a lot of "trick" questions and technical/business glitz I asked...
"Given market conditions, what do you consider is your competitive advantage?"
I never did get an answer and ended up paying my own travel costs :-(


Though on t'other hand I can't remember ever having needed to know _any_
digits of pi for work purposes, so perhaps it's fair ...


When I worked at Cray we had a Y-MP (M90) available for dev work.
Just after one of the big customers had used spare cycles to calc the biggest
prime number yet calc'ed - BTD and a couple of sysadmins then left the M90
running overnight (a six hour block) to generate the next TWO numbers!
I had a copy of the printouts (132 column fanfold in a box) for a good few 
years.

I also remember anotehr co-worked at Cray having the phone system tweaked so 
that
he could dial out on a vast range of unused numbers. This was when captial radio
would only accept competition caller whose number ended in certain digits. 
Having
a 4 digit MSN block was seriously handy for that compo!

Jacqui


Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Eden Cardim
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:38 AM, James Laver  wrote:
> By that logic you could well be turned down for jobs for knowing other
> programming languages that they don't use. Or about literature or a near
> infinite[1] list of other things
>
> --James
> [1] I'm fully aware of the meaning of that, which is perhaps another
> reason I wouldn't be hired by Victoria or Smylers.

Agreed, and I probably wouldn't want to work at a place that rejects
people for that reason anyway.

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Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread James Laver
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 01:06:02PM +0100, Smylers wrote:
> 
> Seems a little harsh to reject people for that.
>
> Though on t'other hand I can't remember ever having needed to know _any_
> digits of pi for work purposes, so perhaps it's fair ...

By that logic you could well be turned down for jobs for knowing other 
programming languages that they don't use. Or about literature or a near 
infinite[1] list of other things

--James
[1] I'm fully aware of the meaning of that, which is perhaps another 
reason I wouldn't be hired by Victoria or Smylers.


Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Jasper
On 16 April 2010 14:44, David Cantrell  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:06:43PM +0100, Victoria Conlan wrote:
>
>> I don't know about anyone else here, but the only reason I would ever ask
>> that question would be to turn down anyone who claimed to know more than 3.
>
> Those three being 2, 2 and 7? :-)

No, just 3 ;)

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Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:06:43PM +0100, Victoria Conlan wrote:

> I don't know about anyone else here, but the only reason I would ever ask
> that question would be to turn down anyone who claimed to know more than 3.

Those three being 2, 2 and 7? :-)

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Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Peter Edwards
On 16 April 2010 13:20, Victoria Conlan  wrote:

>
>  I don't know about anyone else here, but the only reason I would ever ask
>>> that question would be to turn down anyone who claimed to know more than
>>> 3.
>>>
>> I'd make that 5 (since it's what's taught at school here) but yeah, I was
>> thinking the same thing :)
>>
>
> Thank you, you made me feel a lot better about myself.  :-D
>
>
>  For reference:
>> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1777#comic
>>
>

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Cheers, Peter
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Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Victoria Conlan



I don't know about anyone else here, but the only reason I would ever ask
that question would be to turn down anyone who claimed to know more than 3.

I'd make that 5 (since it's what's taught at school here) but yeah, I was 
thinking the same thing :)


Thank you, you made me feel a lot better about myself.  :-D


For reference: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1777#comic


I giggled way more at that than I should have!


Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Mike Whitaker
> Though on t'other hand I can't remember ever having needed to know _any_
> digits of pi for work purposes, so perhaps it's fair ...

One 3D CAD system I worked on did have a math library with a #define PI...
which I fixed to have better precision.[1]

Mike

[1] Yes, I know pi to 26 DP. Why do you ask?


Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Smylers
Victoria Conlan writes:

> > At that time I could remember about 100 digits so I had a dilemma,
> > would I do better in the interview if I recited all 100 or perhaps
> > 10?
>
> I don't know about anyone else here, but the only reason I would ever
> ask that question would be to turn down anyone who claimed to know
> more than 3.

Well you can get the first 9 digits just by wishing:

  "How I wish I could recollect pi easily today"
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piphilology

Seems a little harsh to reject people for that.

Though on t'other hand I can't remember ever having needed to know _any_
digits of pi for work purposes, so perhaps it's fair ...

Smylers
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Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Robin Berjon
On Apr 16, 2010, at 13:06 , Victoria Conlan wrote:
>> At that time I could remember about 100 digits so I had a dilemma, would I 
>> do better in the interview if I recited all 100 or perhaps 10?
> 
> I don't know about anyone else here, but the only reason I would ever ask
> that question would be to turn down anyone who claimed to know more than 3.

I'd make that 5 (since it's what's taught at school here) but yeah, I was 
thinking the same thing :)

For reference: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1777#comic

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Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Victoria Conlan


At that time I could remember about 100 digits so I had a dilemma, would I do 
better in the interview if I recited all 100 or perhaps 10?


I don't know about anyone else here, but the only reason I would ever ask
that question would be to turn down anyone who claimed to know more than 3.

Fortunaetly I don't do interviews very often.  :-)


Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-16 Thread Mr I
How this thread sooo went off topic!

LF. Like most places there are good / bad practices,  awful / good code,
etc.

It is definitely a development influenced company. The HQ is in the middle
of nowhere which some might find socially restrictive.

If I were forced to pick a single bad point it would be that there are too
many employees with "architect" in their job title*.


* some many argue that >0 is too many

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Pinky Weaselly
wrote:

>
> Sorry for anon email, but I don't want to announce to my employer that I've
> been approached by lovefilm about a job.
>
> The recruiter started with "if I said 'lovefilm', would you say 'no'?"
>
> Alarm bells are ringing. Can anyone say if they're a good employer, from a
> Perl perspective? You can email me privately if you like.
>
> Pinky
>
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