Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Piers Cawley
I'm using XCode 4 and things are fine. But I'm running the developer
preview of Lion which is entirely ppc free.

On Saturday, April 23, 2011, Jesse Vincent  wrote:
> Ah. So _this_ is what fucked jwz.
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> Simon Wistow  wrote:
>
> Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have 
> to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies to 
> death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't sufficiently evil 
> you have to buy Xcode. True it's only $4 but it's still a giant fuck you. 
> What's even worse is that apparently the version you can buy - 4.0.2 - 
> doesn't come with a PPC assembler. Which would be fine. Except that the 
> system Perl is built *with* arch ppc. So now no CPAN modules with XS will 
> build. Beyond installing my own Perl (which I can do but is kind of a ball 
> ache) what's the best solution to this. I've found an old copy of Xcode on 
> their site now after some poking around but saying "Install an old version of 
> software" is a less than ideal solution.
>
>



Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Jesse Vincent
Ah. So _this_ is what fucked jwz.
-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Simon Wistow  wrote:

Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have to 
install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies to death 
with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't sufficiently evil you have 
to buy Xcode. True it's only $4 but it's still a giant fuck you. What's even 
worse is that apparently the version you can buy - 4.0.2 - doesn't come with a 
PPC assembler. Which would be fine. Except that the system Perl is built *with* 
arch ppc. So now no CPAN modules with XS will build. Beyond installing my own 
Perl (which I can do but is kind of a ball ache) what's the best solution to 
this. I've found an old copy of Xcode on their site now after some poking 
around but saying "Install an old version of software" is a less than ideal 
solution. 



Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Simon Wistow
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:43:23PM +0100, Dave Cantrell said:
> Paying for compilers is so 1980s.  Please at least tell me that they
> ship an XCode DVD along with the OS.

I did actually find the previous version on one of the DVDs, and as Mike 
points out it's actually findable on the Apple site.

That said - it's still highly ... let's call it "suboptimal" that if you 
install the latest versions of the tools you can't install XS modules on 
OSX.




Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:20:13PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You 
> have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping 
> puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't 
> sufficiently evil you have to buy Xcode. True it's only $4 but it's 
> still a giant fuck you.

What the FUCK?

Paying for compilers is so 1980s.  Please at least tell me that they
ship an XCode DVD along with the OS.

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You don't need to spam good porn


Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Mike Stok

On 2011-04-22, at 5:20 PM, Simon Wistow wrote:

> Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You 
> have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping 
> puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't 
> sufficiently evil you have to buy Xcode. True it's only $4 but it's 
> still a giant fuck you.

You can still get Xcode 3 without paying at 
https://connect.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MemberSite.woa/wa/getSoftware?bundleID=20792

Mike

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Mike Stok 
http://www.stok.ca/~mike/

The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply.







Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Simon Wistow
Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You 
have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping 
puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't 
sufficiently evil you have to buy Xcode. True it's only $4 but it's 
still a giant fuck you.

What's even worse is that apparently the version you can buy - 4.0.2 - 
doesn't come with a PPC assembler. Which would be fine. Except that the 
system Perl is built *with* arch ppc. So now no CPAN modules with XS 
will build.

Beyond installing my own Perl (which I can do but is kind of a ball 
ache) what's the best solution to this. I've found an old copy of Xcode 
on their site now after some poking around but saying "Install an old 
version of software" is a less than ideal solution.




42U HP rack, free to a good home

2011-04-22 Thread Simon Wilcox
I have a 42U HP rack, 600x1000 with PDUs in the back and an APC 
SmartUPS3000R in the bottom that I need to get rid of quickly.


Anyone have a use for it, hackspace maybe ?

If you want it it needs to be collected from EC1 on Tuesday or Wednesday 
this week


S.