Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Arun ragini
Hi,

I'm also interested to work.

Just want to clear that I'm not a designer but I'm a coder and
Administrator. I'm currently maintaining opensourcer.net and others (
full network and system admin). I stall+patch+upgrade+perl/python
coder

Thanks
Arun

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:57 PM, abhishek jain
abhishek.netj...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,
 I am

 thanks
 abhi

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Simon Wilcox es...@ourshack.com wrote:


 I have a client that's looking for a new maintainer for a couple of
 perl-powered sites that we host for them. Normally we'd do minor updates in
 house but the amount of work coming up would require additional resources
 that I can't get in the time available  in any event development isn't
 really what we do.

 I'd like to hand it on or work in partnership with a capable individual or
 agency who can do both design and code.

 If there's anyone interested in this work and available to start in the
 next few days please let me know off list as soon as possible.

 S.




 --
 Thanks and kind Regards,
 Abhishek jain
 +91 9971376767




-- 
www.opensourcer.net


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Ruud H.G. van Tol

On 2011-08-01 19:11, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:


please let me know off list


Did you also mean that all who don't will not be considered?

--
Ruud


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Jacqui Caren-home

On 03/08/2011 11:33, Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote:

On 2011-08-01 19:11, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:

please let me know off list

Did you also mean that all who don't will not be considered?


Dont reply or reply on-list and risk the notorious l-pm satire?

I assumed it was a test - with on-list===fail :-)


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Your quoting is broken.


On 3 Aug 2011, at 11:33, Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote:

 On 2011-08-01 19:11, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 
 please let me know off list
 
 Did you also mean that all who don't will not be considered?
 
 -- 
 Ruud



Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
Yeah, but you have PHP self-listed as a skill :-)

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:21, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your quoting is broken.


 On 3 Aug 2011, at 11:33, Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote:

 On 2011-08-01 19:11, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:

 please let me know off list

 Did you also mean that all who don't will not be considered?

 --
 Ruud




RE: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Ian.Docherty
Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?

-Original Message-
From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org] 
On Behalf Of Paul Makepeace
Sent: 03 August 2011 12:30
To: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers
Subject: Re: website maintenance gig available

Yeah, but you have PHP self-listed as a skill :-)

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:21, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your quoting is broken.


 On 3 Aug 2011, at 11:33, Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote:

 On 2011-08-01 19:11, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:

 please let me know off list

 Did you also mean that all who don't will not be considered?

 --
 Ruud





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Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

On 3 Aug 2011, at 13:12, ian.doche...@nomura.com ian.doche...@nomura.com 
wrote:

 Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?

No, but your sig is moronic.

/joel




PHP (was Re: website maintenance gig available)

2011-08-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 12:12:11PM +, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
 Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?

On this topic, dear lazyweb, er list.

My search engine skills fail me.

Isn't there some quote, roughly you don't program PHP, you ??? it until it
works, possibly attributed to Randal Schwartz?

Does anyone know the one I'm failing to describe? And the citation?

[And if I'm seen as maybe being unfair on a language which takes the
worse-is-better approach to dazzling new depths [Larry Wall] I point you
all to

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?word1=php+vulnerabilityword2=perl+vulnerability
]

Nicholas Clark


Re: PHP (was Re: website maintenance gig available)

2011-08-03 Thread Joel Bernstein
On 3 August 2011 14:55, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:
 Isn't there some quote, roughly you don't program PHP, you ??? it until it
 works, possibly attributed to Randal Schwartz?

you don't code php. you merely edit it until it works. - merlyn

 Does anyone know the one I'm failing to describe? And the citation?

I can't find a citation. Only pfig's signature. Presumably Pedro knows
where he is quoting from.

/joel


RE: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Ian.Docherty
I agree with that, and the moronic email client that is forced upon me, but 
there is little I can do about it!

-Original Message-
From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org] 
On Behalf Of Dave Hodgkinson
Sent: 03 August 2011 13:43
To: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers
Subject: Re: website maintenance gig available


On 3 Aug 2011, at 13:12, ian.doche...@nomura.com ian.doche...@nomura.com 
wrote:

 Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?

No, but your sig is moronic.

/joel





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Re: PHP (was Re: website maintenance gig available)

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 13:55, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:
 Isn't there some quote, roughly you don't program PHP, you ??? it until it
 works, possibly attributed to Randal Schwartz?

There's a little-known Google search trick: * can be used as a word substitute.

Try,

you don't code PHP you * it until it works

...confirms you are right.

That said, I think most PHP programmers accepted this openly before
anyone needed to say it.

Paul (who has given a why PHP is great talk too in case it sounds
like I'm starting a language flame war :))


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 14:06,  ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
 I agree with that, and the moronic email client that is forced upon me, but 
 there is little I can do about it!


You can use a different email address... I hear there are some free
ones still available.

P


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Joel Bernstein
On 3 August 2011 15:06,  ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
 I agree with that, and the moronic email client that is forced upon me, but 
 there is little I can do about it!

Things you could do about it:
1) Sign up to the list from a personal email address rather than from work
2) Wait til you're at home (or use your mobile phone) if your employer
prevents access to external webmail from their network
3) Avoid top-posting particularly when your client sandwiches the
quoted message between your single line reply and your inappropriate
enormous disclaimer

/joel


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:43:21PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 On 3 Aug 2011, at 13:12, ian.doche...@nomura.com ian.doche...@nomura.com 
 wrote:
  Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?
 No, but your sig is moronic.

Please play nice, both of you.

-- 
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THIS IS THE LANGUAGE POLICE
PUT DOWN YOUR THESAURUS
STEP AWAY FROM THE CLICHE


RE: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Ian.Docherty
Indeed, except that they are blocked by corporate firewalls and I would not 
wish to incur the wrath of the powers-that-be by trying to bypass them! Back to 
square one.

-Original Message-
From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org] 
On Behalf Of Paul Makepeace
Sent: 03 August 2011 14:16
To: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers
Subject: Re: website maintenance gig available

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 14:06,  ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
 I agree with that, and the moronic email client that is forced upon me, but 
 there is little I can do about it!


You can use a different email address... I hear there are some free
ones still available.

P



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Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

On 3 Aug 2011, at 14:06, ian.doche...@nomura.com ian.doche...@nomura.com 
wrote:

 I agree with that, and the moronic email client that is forced upon me, but 
 there is little I can do about it!

Don't post from work.




RE: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Ian.Docherty
-Original Message-
From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org] 
On Behalf Of David Cantrell
Sent: 03 August 2011 14:26
To: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers
Subject: Re: website maintenance gig available

On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:43:21PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 On 3 Aug 2011, at 13:12, ian.doche...@nomura.com ian.doche...@nomura.com 
 wrote:
  Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?
 No, but your sig is moronic.

Please play nice, both of you.

-- 
David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david

...
[Ian replied.] 

OK, last post (at least from work).

It's annoying too many people, which I don't want to do.

I don't like the sig, I don't like top posting but (as you can see) my email 
client does not indent or '' as I would wish, so you will have to try and 
unravel this as best you can.

Use of mobile phones to email is frowned upon. Corporate firewall is a pain but 
I have to live with it. I only joined from this email address initially because 
of a need to post to the group on behalf of my company. Apologies that I 
continued to use it in an attempt to 'be part of the community'. Obviously it 
is not working.

Catch you all on a very less frequent basis from another email address on the 
(few) hours I have available to me outside of work hours.

Ian.






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Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Simon Wilcox


It's annoying people who should know better. You carry on posting as you 
wish. Those who don't like it are free to write a perl script to strip 
your signature before they have to insult their eyes by observing it.


Or they could write their own mailing list manager to do this for them 
in a plugin... wait, that's been tried before...


S.

(Top posting for maximum annoyance :)

On 03/08/2011 14:42, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:

It's annoying too many people, which I don't want to do.


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Kieren Diment
Personally I think that playing a game of annoy the nerds with broken defacto 
standards is amusing, and I would prefer that you didn't retreat.

[ deliberately top-posted from a more-or-less defacto standards compliant email 
client ]


On 03/08/2011, at 11:42 PM, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org 
 [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org] On Behalf Of David Cantrell
 Sent: 03 August 2011 14:26
 To: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers
 Subject: Re: website maintenance gig available
 
 On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:43:21PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 On 3 Aug 2011, at 13:12, ian.doche...@nomura.com ian.doche...@nomura.com 
 wrote:
 Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?
 No, but your sig is moronic.
 
 Please play nice, both of you.
 
 -- 
 David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david
 
 ...
 [Ian replied.] 
 
 OK, last post (at least from work).
 
 It's annoying too many people, which I don't want to do.
 
 I don't like the sig, I don't like top posting but (as you can see) my email 
 client does not indent or '' as I would wish, so you will have to try and 
 unravel this as best you can.
 
 Use of mobile phones to email is frowned upon. Corporate firewall is a pain 
 but I have to live with it. I only joined from this email address initially 
 because of a need to post to the group on behalf of my company. Apologies 
 that I continued to use it in an attempt to 'be part of the community'. 
 Obviously it is not working.
 
 Catch you all on a very less frequent basis from another email address on the 
 (few) hours I have available to me outside of work hours.
 
 Ian.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Sue Spence
This was a simple tit-for-tat, it's nothing at all even resembling an
annoy the nerds free for all.  Not yet, at any rate.

On 3 August 2011 14:57, Kieren Diment dim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Personally I think that playing a game of annoy the nerds with broken defacto 
 standards is amusing, and I would prefer that you didn't retreat.

 [ deliberately top-posted from a more-or-less defacto standards compliant 
 email client ]


 On 03/08/2011, at 11:42 PM, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org 
 [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org] On Behalf Of David Cantrell
 Sent: 03 August 2011 14:26
 To: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers
 Subject: Re: website maintenance gig available

 On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:43:21PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 On 3 Aug 2011, at 13:12, ian.doche...@nomura.com 
 ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
 Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?
 No, but your sig is moronic.

 Please play nice, both of you.

 --
 David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david

 ...
 [Ian replied.]

 OK, last post (at least from work).

 It's annoying too many people, which I don't want to do.

 I don't like the sig, I don't like top posting but (as you can see) my email 
 client does not indent or '' as I would wish, so you will have to try and 
 unravel this as best you can.

 Use of mobile phones to email is frowned upon. Corporate firewall is a pain 
 but I have to live with it. I only joined from this email address initially 
 because of a need to post to the group on behalf of my company. Apologies 
 that I continued to use it in an attempt to 'be part of the community'. 
 Obviously it is not working.

 Catch you all on a very less frequent basis from another email address on 
 the (few) hours I have available to me outside of work hours.

 Ian.






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Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Dave Cross

On 08/03/2011 02:19 PM, Joel Bernstein wrote:

On 3 August 2011 15:06,ian.doche...@nomura.com  wrote:

I agree with that, and the moronic email client that is forced
upon  me, but there is little I can do about it!


Things you could do about it:
1) Sign up to the list from a personal email address rather than from work
2) Wait til you're at home (or use your mobile phone) if your employer
prevents access to external webmail from their network
3) Avoid top-posting particularly when your client sandwiches the
quoted message between your single line reply and your inappropriate
enormous disclaimer


I agree that it would nice if everyone posted from a standards-compliant 
email client and that companies didn't use ridiculous email disclaimers 
that only seem to annoy people.


However, it's not a perfect world and we all have to live with little 
annoyances. I can't believe that some of us are trying to hound someone 
off the mailing list because they don't fit in with our idea of what a 
geek should be.


I thought london.pm was an inclusive club. But what do I know?

Dave...

p.s. I've just been browsing some list archives from 1998 - where I was 
top-posting from Outlook because it was the only mail client I was 
allowed to use. No-one objected then.


--
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http://dave.org.uk/
@davorg


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Peter Corlett
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:30:26PM +, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
 Indeed, except that they are blocked by corporate firewalls and I would
 not wish to incur the wrath of the powers-that-be by trying to bypass
 them! Back to square one.

That's the company telling you to stop posting to mailing lists from work.



Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Joel Bernstein
On 3 August 2011 16:18, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
 I agree that it would nice if everyone posted from a standards-compliant
 email client and that companies didn't use ridiculous email disclaimers that
 only seem to annoy people.

 However, it's not a perfect world and we all have to live with little
 annoyances. I can't believe that some of us are trying to hound someone off
 the mailing list because they don't fit in with our idea of what a geek
 should be.

I don't intend to hound anybody off anywhere. I find the sig a bit
tedious, particularly given the lack of a sig-separator (\n-- \n)
which would make my client hide it, but I can live with it. The
statement that there was nothing to be done about it seemed a bit
silly but I tried to make constructive suggestions about how the OP
could work around the corporate restriction. He is very welcome here,
of course.

I wholeheartedly object to the assertion that this criticism was
motivated by Ian apparently not fitting into some idea of what a geek
should be. I don't know where you got that idea. I think it's an
unfair characterisation.

 I thought london.pm was an inclusive club. But what do I know?

I hope Ian will take the constructive criticism in the friendly spirit
which was meant.

/joel


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 15:18, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
 p.s. I've just been browsing some list archives from 1998 - where I was
 top-posting from Outlook because it was the only mail client I was allowed
 to use. No-one objected then.

1998? Email clients? In them days we was glad to have enough memory to
run telnet!

Paul (who doesn't care partly since his email client turns cruft in -
Show quoted text - after the second time...)


Re: PHP

2011-08-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Nicholas == Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org writes:

Nicholas Isn't there some quote, roughly you don't program PHP, you ??? it 
until it
Nicholas works, possibly attributed to Randal Schwartz?

No, I'm famous for PHP: Training Wheels without the Bike, as
illustrated beautifully at http://tnx.nl/php.html.  (Click the image for
a desktop version.)

-- 
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mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
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Re: PHP

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 08:07:46AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
  Nicholas == Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org writes:
 
 Nicholas Isn't there some quote, roughly you don't program PHP, you ??? it 
 until it
 Nicholas works, possibly attributed to Randal Schwartz?
 
 No, I'm famous for PHP: Training Wheels without the Bike, as
 illustrated beautifully at http://tnx.nl/php.html.  (Click the image for
 a desktop version.)

“I Never Said Most of the Things I Said” - Yogi Berra

Or perhaps it was Mark Twain or Winston Churchill or George Bernard Shaw or ...

-- 
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Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Tara Andrews
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:

 That's the company telling you to stop posting to mailing lists from work.

Heaven forbid that Perl be relevant to anyone's work.

-tara


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Sue Spence
On 3 August 2011 15:27, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:30:26PM +, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
 Indeed, except that they are blocked by corporate firewalls and I would
 not wish to incur the wrath of the powers-that-be by trying to bypass
 them! Back to square one.

Don't bother with any of this.  You might consider backing off from
the snarky PHP comment that started this, but nothing else is
particularly relevant.


 That's the ...

Whatever, Peter.


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 05:28:20PM +0200, Tara Andrews wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:
 
  That's the company telling you to stop posting to mailing lists from work.
 
 Heaven forbid that Perl be relevant to anyone's work.

This list is about Perl? :-)

[But yes, you both have valid points. I suspect it's more for regulatory
oversight reasons that a bank is discouraging non-work-visible means of
sending messages, than some organ-grinder management mentality that
knowledge workers need to sit chained to their designated task 60 minutes
of every hour]

To atone for mentioning the 4 letter word (and quoting another mention of
it), I should remind everyone that there is a social tomorrow at The
Victoria, W2 2NH*)

Nicholas Clark

* Somewhere near Paddington, and convenient for the Central Line, so maybe
  we'll see some people from a large West London Media Organisation, and
  other large enclaves of 4 letter word users from out west.


IMPORTANT(ish): Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Leo Lapworth
You can top post, bottom post, left or right post on this list.

I'd prefer you didn't top post, but it's not (and will never be) enforced.

Please DO read emails before replying - Reply to me off list is
quite a key line in any email.

This list is for everyone - technical and non-technical alike, there
are far more interesting things
to discuss than email standards in any form :)

/me takes of his London.pm leader hat and goes to enjoy the sun.

Thanks

Leo


Re: london.pm Digest, Vol 70, Issue 5

2011-08-03 Thread shantanu.bhado...@gmail.com
sorry but why is use of mobile phones for mailing frowned on? if you are picky, 
just get a android tablet, root it, install a terminal emulator, and compile a 
command line email client. that should be good to keep a geek happy :p
-Shantanu Bhadoria 



[ANNOUNCE] Reminder: London Perl M[ou]ngers August Social - 2011-08-04 - The Victoria, Bayswater W2 2NH

2011-08-03 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
Hi all,

This is tomorrow, hope to see as many as possible there.

As an extra incentive, Opsera (the company behind Opsview, who are
hiring) will be present and putting a hundred quid behind the bar.

ilm...@ilmari.org (Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker) writes:

 Hi again,

 ilm...@ilmari.org (Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker) writes:

 Hi All,

 The London.pm August social will be on Thursday 5th August at The

 The date is of course Thursday 4th August, the next Tursday 5th August
 isn't until 2021.  Thanks to Jason Clifford for spotting the error.

 Victoria, Bayswater, just down the road from Paddington station.  We've
 got the upstairs Theatre Bar booked from 18:00.

 The Victoria
 10a Strathearn Place
 W2 2NH

 http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Victoria,_W2_2NH

 Standard blurb:

 Social meets are a chance for the various members of the group to meet
 up face to face and chat with each other about things - both Perl and
 (mostly) non-Perl - and newcomers are more than welcome. The monthly
 meets tend to be bigger than the other ad hoc meetings that take place
 at other times, and we make sure that they're in easy to get to
 locations and the pub serves food (meaning that people can eat in the
 bar if they want to). They normally start around 6.30pm (or whenever
 people get there after work) and a group tends to be left come closing
 time.

 If you're a newcomer or other first timer (even if you've been lurking
 on the mailing list or on IRC) then please seek our Glorious Leader Leo
 out - we have a tradition that the leader of this motley crew buys the
 new people a drink and introduces them to people.

 Look forward to seeing you there.

-- 
ilmari
A disappointingly low fraction of the human race is,
 at any given time, on fire. - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen


Re: IMPORTANT(ish): Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Andrew Beattie

 OOh!  Left posting.  On 03/08/2011 17:41, Leo Lapworth wrote:
 You can top post, bottom post, left or right post on this list.
That's a novel idea. 
 I'd prefer you didn't top post, but it's not (and will never be) 
enforced.

Do you think it will catch on? 
 Please DO read emails before replying - Reply to me off list is
Andrew  quite a key line in any email.

 This list is for everyone - technical and non-technical alike, there
 are far more interesting things
 to discuss than email standards in any form :)

 /me takes of his London.pm leader hat and goes to enjoy the sun.

 Thanks

 Leo


Re: IMPORTANT(ish): Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Andrew Beattie

 On 03/08/2011 18:14, Andrew Beattie wrote:
 OOh!  Left posting.  On 03/08/2011 17:41, Leo Lapworth 
wrote:

 You can top post, bottom post, left or right post on this list.
That's a novel idea. 

Ok.  Who stole all my whitespace?

Andrew


Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Simon Wilcox


Many thanks to everyone who has replied. I've had a *lot* of responses 
which is gratifying as it shows there are plenty of people still doing 
small-scale perl/web stuff. Hurrah !


Unfortunately this means it's going to take a little longer than I had 
anticipated to reply to everyone. Please bear with me and you'll hear 
from me soon.


Simon.


Re: IMPORTANT(ish): Re: website maintenance gig available

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 18:33, Andrew Beattie and...@tug.com wrote:

 Ok.  Who stole all my whitespace?


Python programmers?

P (two in one day?!)