Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 23 August 2012 00:41, Anthony Lucas  wrote:
> They just want you to buy their tethering add-on and mifi products.

It's probably simpler for me to just pay for the damn tethering
add-on, but part of me is annoyed at the restriction and wishes to try
to bypass it :)

I'll try VPNing back to my shell account and see what happens.. can't
be any slower than 3G already is..

TC


Re: How to retrieve a row, biased by populatity?

2012-08-22 Thread Fahad Khan
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM, David Hodgkinson wrote:

>
> On 21 Aug 2012, at 21:54, Fahad Khan  wrote:
>
> > SELECT * FROM band ORDER BY ranking - RAND() * $BIAS DESC LIMIT 1;
> >
> > Fahad.
>
>
> I like this one best. I know I have 850k rows, just pick the n'th on
> some form of log curve.
>

Ah the devil's in the detail. I'm not sure exactly what you mean. But...

1. You know you have 850k rows. We didn't.
2. Its not any form of a log curve.
3. Read what follows. I'm sure there's more detail. Bare in mind this
Debian Lenny stock install on a pretty humble desktop.

mysql> show create table bands;
| bands | CREATE TABLE `bands` (
  `name` text,
  `ranking` int(11) DEFAULT NULL,
  KEY `ranking_idx` (`ranking`)
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1 |

mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM bands;
+--+
| COUNT(*) |
+--+
|   85 |
+--+
1 row in set (0.01 sec)

mysql> SELECT * FROM bands ORDER BY ranking - RAND() * 5000 DESC LIMIT 1;
+-+-+
| name| ranking |
+-+-+
| prompt socializes callus period |  849973 |
+-+-+
1 row in set (1.26 sec)



mysql> show create table band;
+---+-+
| Table | Create
Table
|
+---+-+
| band  | CREATE TABLE `band` (
  `name` text,
  `ranking` int(11) NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY (`ranking`)
) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1 |
+---+-+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM band;
+--+
| COUNT(*) |
+--+
|   85 |
+--+
1 row in set (0.35 sec)

mysql> SELECT * FROM band ORDER BY ranking - RAND() * 5000 DESC LIMIT 1;
+-+-+
| name| ranking |
+-+-+
| biscuit Egyptianizations Jamaica consequent |  849979 |
+-+-+
1 row in set (1.76 sec)


$ pg_dump dave_test --schema-only -t band
...
CREATE TABLE band (
name text,
ranking integer NOT NULL
);
...
ALTER TABLE ONLY band
ADD CONSTRAINT band_pkey PRIMARY KEY (ranking);
...

dave_test=> select count(*) from band;
 count

 85
(1 row)

dave_test=> SELECT * FROM band ORDER BY ranking - RANDOM() * 5000 DESC
LIMIT 1;
 name | ranking
--+-
 sank fission |  849994
(1 row)

Time: 372.286 ms


Re: and this place ships bagels to the US!

2012-08-22 Thread Uri Guttman

On 08/22/2012 04:35 AM, Raphael Mankin wrote:

On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 01:42 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:

http://www.stviateurbagel.com/products/?rand=1002335542


So what's the problem? Bagels are no more native to the US than they are
to Canada. They are a European invention.


never meant to send it here. address completion typo.

uri



Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony Lucas
They just want you to buy their tethering add-on and mifi products.
I got through a gig of data before they caught on last time, in a fairly short 
space of time (as in hours, using it as a hotspot for my laptop, streaming, you 
name it) and put the temporary block and redirect page up.

They probably block some ports, but I haven't noticed any. Most ports seemed 
fine the last time I was stuck without internet.



-- 
Anthony Lucas
Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig)


On Wednesday, 22 August 2012 at 06:52, Toby Wintermute wrote:

> On 22 August 2012 02:15, Anthony Lucas  (mailto:anthonyjlu...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > 3 can be quite good with the traffic detection if it's obvious.
> > 
> > In my experience, 5 or so hours of usage (unauthorised tethering) and 
> > they're on to you.
> > Pop it back in your phone, reboot or lose the tower, and you're back in 
> > business as far as internet access on the phone,
> > but you're now on some kind of watch-list and they're a lot faster to catch 
> > on the second time.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Ah, really? That's irritating that they bother.. I mean, I'm just
> using the same bandwidth quota regardless of method :/
> 
> Do Three block outbound ports?
> (ie. Can I just tunnel everything through an ssh or openvpn tunnel so
> that no traffic inspection can be done..)
> 
> 
> Toby 



Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread Paul Weaver
The joys of corporate deals :)

I think I (or my employer) was charged £1.80 a minute while i was in Pakistan 
last year. I dread to think how much it cost!

On 22 Aug 2012, at 19:51, "David Cantrell"  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:57:53PM +0800, Paul Weaver wrote:
>> Just fyi, EU Data prices on my O2 phone dropped between may and July from 
>> £2.55+ vat per meg to £0.58+vat. £100 cap and 300MB max. 
> 
> Then you need to change your tariff.  O2 charge me 8p per MB on the
> mainland, 2 quid cap per day unless I authorise another 2 quid (and
> another, and another, ...).
> 
> It covers Switzerland too, despite that not being in the EU.  I expect
> it would also cover Norway.
> 
> -- 
> David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age
> 
>Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to malnutrition caused by
>  poor lifestyle choices, is eight times more likely to
>  catch TB than a normal person



Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:57:53PM +0800, Paul Weaver wrote:
> Just fyi, EU Data prices on my O2 phone dropped between may and July from 
> £2.55+ vat per meg to £0.58+vat. £100 cap and 300MB max. 

Then you need to change your tariff.  O2 charge me 8p per MB on the
mainland, 2 quid cap per day unless I authorise another 2 quid (and
another, and another, ...).

It covers Switzerland too, despite that not being in the EU.  I expect
it would also cover Norway.

-- 
David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age

Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to malnutrition caused by
  poor lifestyle choices, is eight times more likely to
  catch TB than a normal person


Re: How to retrieve a row, biased by populatity?

2012-08-22 Thread David Hodgkinson

On 21 Aug 2012, at 21:54, Fahad Khan  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Dave Hodgkinson  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Possibly a perl question. SQL would do...
>> 
>> Given a set of data, say bands, with each having a ranking, either a
>> review metric or a sales ranking, how would you retrieve a random
>> row, but biased towards the higher ranking?
>> 
>> 
> SELECT * FROM band ORDER BY ranking - RAND() * $BIAS DESC LIMIT 1;
> 
> Fahad.


I like this one best. I know I have 850k rows, just pick the n'th on
some form of log curve.





Re: and this place ships bagels to the US!

2012-08-22 Thread Raphael Mankin
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 01:42 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> http://www.stviateurbagel.com/products/?rand=1002335542
> 
So what's the problem? Bagels are no more native to the US than they are
to Canada. They are a European invention.



and this place ships bagels to the US!

2012-08-22 Thread Uri Guttman

http://www.stviateurbagel.com/products/?rand=1002335542



Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread Paul Weaver
Just fyi, EU Data prices on my O2 phone dropped between may and July from 
£2.55+ vat per meg to £0.58+vat. £100 cap and 300MB max. 

Outside Europe it's still £6/mb. I tore through £50 between the airport and 
hotel in Delhi last week while checking the taxi driver was taking me the right 
way! 

Capped at £102.13 (??) but for 200MB. 

On 20 Aug 2012, at 22:47, "Toby Wintermute"  wrote:

> Hello all,
> I'm making a whirlwind visit to London and bits of Europe soon,
> although with awfully poor timing, just missing YAPC:EU :(
> Hopefully I'll manage to run into a few of you while I'm in London though.
> 
> The last time I visited, I picked up an Orange SIM that had "Unlimited
> data" on the plan.. only to discover they meant "unlimited, but at
> <5kb/sec".
> 
> So this time around I thought I should get some local knowledge. Can
> you suggest a mobile carrier who has:
> * 3G support for prepaid SIMs
> * Has reasonably priced data plans
> * For bonus points -- will work while roaming in Germany. Although I
> suspect I'll just have to buy yet another SIM over there..
> 
> Alternatively.. I'd be happy to just get a data-only SIM and use Skype
> or similar the whole time.
> I hope this isn't too off-topic!
> 
> Thanks,
> Toby
> 
> -- 
> Turning and turning in the widening gyre
> The falcon cannot hear the falconer
> Things fall apart; the center cannot hold
> Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world