Re: Agenda Perl and open source events - organizers ML
And don't forget to use the YEF organizers mailing list, if that might help you to organize a perl event: http://lists.yapceurope.org/mailman/listinfo/organizers -- Ciao Richard Foley http://www.rfi.net/books.html On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 10:15:33PM +0100, Wendy G.A. van Dijk wrote: At 09:52 PM 12/5/2012, Mark Fowler wrote: On Wednesday, 5 December 2012 at 15:12, Wendy G.A. van Dijk wrote: In case anybody is interested. Not all these dates are in other collections of events. For those that have firm dates, it would be great to get these published in all kinds of directories. For example, pushing them into http://lanyd.com. Would you be able to do that? Ehrm, no: This domain has been registered for a 123-reg customer. Perl event dates should be kept at perl.org and yapceurope.org and such. Since I'm doing booths at Fosdem and other open source conferences, I'm collecting dates like this a bit more active that other people... I'm just mad like that. (and for those of you organising conferences, please bear in mind it's almost impossible to promote them without firm dates, and people are already deciding what time to book holidays, etc next year) I think the organising people know that. Organising things can be difficult enough. Some people, like Andrew Shitov, Laurent Boivin and Mark Keating, they do it like it is making a cheese sandwich. For me, organising an event with speakers, it is hell and it takes me forever. So kudos to the organisers, and take your time, make it a nice one, and tell everybody about it, and maybe we all will come. Wendy
Re: Agenda Perl and open source events - organizers ML
Wendy G.A. van Dijk wrote: At 09:52 PM 12/5/2012, Mark Fowler wrote: On Wednesday, 5 December 2012 at 15:12, Wendy G.A. van Dijk wrote: In case anybody is interested. Not all these dates are in other collections of events. For those that have firm dates, it would be great to get these published in all kinds of directories. For example, pushing them into http://lanyd.com. Would you be able to do that? Ehrm, no: This domain has been registered for a 123-reg customer. The site's actually http://lanyrd.com/ It's pretty nice, and I've been looking at it since its creation, but it still lacks something which would make it a piece of cake to push information from, say, an Act conference: an API. There's one in the pipeline since 3 years. » http://lanyrd.com/help/faq/#data I don't know if it's RESTy enough to make one with Net::HTTP::Spore. -- Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni Close the world, txEn eht nepO.
Testsuites and External Dependancies?
Hello my fellow Perl Mongers. I have this module http://metacpan.org/module/Mac::KeyboardMaestro It's job is to interface with a OS X utility called Keyboard Maestro. If you don't have Keyboard Maestro installed on your Mac[1] it's useless. The current version (1.00) will fail its test suite spectacularly in this situation in a rather unforgiving manner. But now I'm getting failures from the CPAN testers. The options I see open to me me are: 1) Detect using ps if Keyboard Maestro Engine is running and skip the tests if it's not (and leave the user to wonder why my module passes tests and doesn't work.) 2) As (1), but BAIL OUT instead. I'm unsure if this is the right thing to do, and I'm unsure if this will stop false negatives from the CPAN testers. 3) Tell the CPAN testers I don't care about reports for this module (which is a problem since I *like* what the CPAN testers do) Any advice list? Mark. [1] I'm not currently testing if you're running on a Mac but that's okay, since you'll not be able to install Mac::AppleScript which is one of my module's dependancies -- Mark Fowler http://www.twoshortplanks.com/
Re: Testsuites and External Dependancies?
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Mark Fowler m...@twoshortplanks.comwrote: If you don't have Keyboard Maestro installed on your Mac[1] it's useless My understanding is that this is what the Alien:: namespace is for... http://search.cpan.org/~abergman/Alien-0.91/lib/Alien.pm And that the correct solution is to write Alien::KeyboardMaestro, on which your module should rely. -P
Re: Testsuites and External Dependancies?
On 06/12/2012 13:04, Peter Sergeant wrote: On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Mark Fowler m...@twoshortplanks.comwrote: If you don't have Keyboard Maestro installed on your Mac[1] it's useless My understanding is that this is what the Alien:: namespace is for... http://search.cpan.org/~abergman/Alien-0.91/lib/Alien.pm And that the correct solution is to write Alien::KeyboardMaestro, on which your module should rely. That would just move the problem to Alien::KeyboardMaestro, for which he'd get bogus test failures on other OSes. Alien::* exist so that you can have CPAN.pm install C pre-requisites such as libraries, it's not really for installing commercial closed-source software. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information Eye have a spelling chequer / It came with my pea sea It planely marques four my revue / Miss Steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a quay and type a word / And weight for it to say Weather eye am wrong oar write / It shows me strait a weigh.
Re: Testsuites and External Dependancies?
On Thursday, December 6, 2012, David Cantrell wrote: On 06/12/2012 12:48, Mark Fowler wrote: It's job is to interface with a OS X utility called Keyboard Maestro. If you don't have Keyboard Maestro installed on your Mac[1] it's useless. The current version (1.00) will fail its test suite spectacularly in this situation in a rather unforgiving manner. In Makefile.PL or Build.PL, have it die with OS unsupported. But the OS *is* supported. You just don't have keyboard maestro installed...
Re: Testsuites and External Dependancies?
On 2012-12-06 Mark Fowler m...@twoshortplanks.com wrote: But the OS *is* supported. You just don't have keyboard maestro installed... From that same wiki page: How can I stop getting FAIL reports for missing libraries or other non-Perl dependencies? If you have some special dependencies and don't want to get CPAN Testers reports if a dependency is not available, just exit from the Makefile.PL or Build.PL normally (with an exit code of 0) before the Makefile or Build file is created. exit 0 unless some_dependency_is_met(); (some notes a few lines after that make me confused, however. dcantrell seems to have commented on the wiki) -- Dakkar - Mobilis in mobile GPG public key fingerprint = A071 E618 DD2C 5901 9574 6FE2 40EA 9883 7519 3F88 key id = 0x75193F88 Life is a healthy respect for mother nature laced with greed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[ANNOUNCE] REMINDER: London Perl M[ou]ngers December Social - 2012-12-06 - The Sutton Arms, Barbican, EC1M 6EB
This is tonight! See you there! ilm...@ilmari.org (Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker) writes: Hi all, The December London.pm Social will be next Thursday, December 6th, at The Sutton Arms in Barbican. See you there! The Sutton Arms 6 Carthusian Street London EC1M 6EB http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Sutton_Arms,_EC1M_6EB Social meets are a chance for the various members of the group to meet up face to face and chat with each other about things - both Perl and (mostly) non-Perl - and newcomers are more than welcome. The monthly meets tend to be bigger than the other ad hoc meetings that take place at other times, and we make sure that they're in easy to get to locations and the pub serves food (meaning that people can eat in the bar if they want to). They normally start around 6.30pm (or whenever people get there after work) and a group tends to be left come closing time. If you're a newcomer or other first timer (even if you've been lurking on the mailing list or on IRC) then please seek our Glorious Leader Tom out - we have a tradition that the leader of this motley crew buys the new people a drink and introduces them to people. -- A disappointingly low fraction of the human race is, at any given time, on fire. - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Re: Testsuites and External Dependancies?
On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 09:17, Gianni Ceccarelli wrote: How can I stop getting FAIL reports for missing libraries or other non-Perl dependencies? exit 0 unless some_dependency_is_met(); Righty ho, that *seems* to be what I'm looking for. This is what I've done: http://git.io/nokmfix Seems good to me. I'll ship it this evening if no-one has any better suggestions. Mark.
Re: [ANNOUNCE] REMINDER: London Perl M[ou]ngers December Social - 2012-12-06 - The Sutton Arms, Barbican, EC1M 6EB
Also, nice pub. Sent from my iPhone On 6 Dec 2012, at 14:50, ilm...@ilmari.org (Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker) wrote: This is tonight! See you there! ilm...@ilmari.org (Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker) writes: Hi all, The December London.pm Social will be next Thursday, December 6th, at The Sutton Arms in Barbican. See you there! The Sutton Arms 6 Carthusian Street London EC1M 6EB http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Sutton_Arms,_EC1M_6EB Social meets are a chance for the various members of the group to meet up face to face and chat with each other about things - both Perl and (mostly) non-Perl - and newcomers are more than welcome. The monthly meets tend to be bigger than the other ad hoc meetings that take place at other times, and we make sure that they're in easy to get to locations and the pub serves food (meaning that people can eat in the bar if they want to). They normally start around 6.30pm (or whenever people get there after work) and a group tends to be left come closing time. If you're a newcomer or other first timer (even if you've been lurking on the mailing list or on IRC) then please seek our Glorious Leader Tom out - we have a tradition that the leader of this motley crew buys the new people a drink and introduces them to people. -- A disappointingly low fraction of the human race is, at any given time, on fire. - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Re: Testsuites and External Dependancies?
On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 11:34, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: you may want to prompt No Engine running; start it before continuing. Proceed? (Y/N) with a default of N (upon which you exit 0). Good idea. http://git.io/NOWuPQ Mark.
Re: Testsuites and External Dependancies?
Message: 1 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 07:48:11 -0500 From: Mark Fowler m...@twoshortplanks.com Subject: Testsuites and External Dependancies? To: London. pm Perl M[ou]ngers london.pm@london.pm.org Message-ID: afd713a761ac42cf930e6f2b33aae...@twoshortplanks.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello my fellow Perl Mongers. I have this module http://metacpan.org/module/Mac::KeyboardMaestro It's job is to interface with a OS X utility called Keyboard Maestro. If you don't have Keyboard Maestro installed on your Mac[1] it's useless. The current version (1.00) will fail its test suite spectacularly in this situation in a rather unforgiving manner. But now I'm getting failures from the CPAN testers. The options I see open to me me are: 1) Detect using ps if Keyboard Maestro Engine is running and skip the tests if it's not (and leave the user to wonder why my module passes tests and doesn't work.) 2) As (1), but BAIL OUT instead. I'm unsure if this is the right thing to do, and I'm unsure if this will stop false negatives from the CPAN testers. 3) Tell the CPAN testers I don't care about reports for this module (which is a problem since I *like* what the CPAN testers do) Any advice list? I can't help comparing this with a more common case, such as XML::LibXML. It won't build/test at all unless libxml is installed. It's just that having libxml (and headers) available is more likely for any given cpantesters node. (2) seems sane to me. Ash Mark. [1] I'm not currently testing if you're running on a Mac but that's okay, since you'll not be able to install Mac::AppleScript which is one of my module's dependancies -- Mark Fowler http://www.twoshortplanks.com/
Another hackday...
For those of you of the Oxford persuasion: http://www.meetup.com/UK-Hackathons-and-Jams/events/94330082/ The grass-roots NHS Hack Day comes to Oxford for the weekend: We bring together doctors, nurses, developers, designers, and other geeks who love the NHS to create disruptive solutions to problems in the health space. Goto http://nhshackday.com/...
Re: [ANNOUNCE] REMINDER: London Perl M[ou]ngers December Social - 2012-12-06 - The Sutton Arms, Barbican, EC1M 6EB
On 6 Dec 2012, at 15:16, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Also, nice pub. You lot who haven't turned up are missing out on some cracking beer and a great evening. So hurry up and join up!
Another hackday...
For those of you of the Oxford persuasion: http://www.meetup.com/UK-Hackathons-and-Jams/events/94330082/ The grass-roots NHS Hack Day comes to Oxford for the weekend: We bring together doctors, nurses, developers, designers, and other geeks who love the NHS to create disruptive solutions to problems in the health space. Goto http://nhshackday.com/...
