Re: New perl features?

2013-03-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Dave == Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk writes:

Dave Does anyone pay for Perl articles these days? :-)

I got paid for one a few years back.

Nothing like the heyday of the 255 paid articles I wrote during the
dotcom boom.

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Re: New perl features?

2013-03-18 Thread Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 07:00:32AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
  Dave == Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk writes:
 
 Dave Does anyone pay for Perl articles these days? :-)
 
 I got paid for one a few years back.
 
 Nothing like the heyday of the 255 paid articles I wrote during the
 dotcom boom.
 

The French GNU/Linux Magazine (http://www.ed-diamond.com/index.php#homelm)
would still pay us, if we managed to write articles for them. :-)

And as bonus (because we accept to get paid a little less), the articles
are put under a CC-ND-NC license after a few months, and end up here:
http://articles.mongueurs.net/

You'll need to write in French, though. And get paid in Euro.

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Re: New perl features?

2013-03-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

On 18 Mar 2013, at 16:00, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:

 
 You'll need to write in French, though. And get paid in Euro.

Couldn't we just write loudly in CAPS?

G.



Re: New perl features?

2013-03-18 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:00:55PM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 07:00:32AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
   Dave == Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk writes:
  
  Dave Does anyone pay for Perl articles these days? :-)
  
  I got paid for one a few years back.
  
  Nothing like the heyday of the 255 paid articles I wrote during the
  dotcom boom.
  
 
 The French GNU/Linux Magazine (http://www.ed-diamond.com/index.php#homelm)
 would still pay us, if we managed to write articles for them. :-)

That sounds like people don't have the time sufficient to write articles.
Are there people for whom translating articles to French is easier?

 And as bonus (because we accept to get paid a little less), the articles
 are put under a CC-ND-NC license after a few months, and end up here:
 http://articles.mongueurs.net/
 
 You'll need to write in French, though. And get paid in Euro.

ie, is there a viable split of the payment such that it's enough to motivate
a team of two, where one writes in English and the other translates?

(and I don't know if any of the German language publications will pay, in
which case, translating to both for near-enough simultaneous publication
might pay three people better than one publication pays two)

Please note, I'm not looking to write articles (paid or not). But I can see
that having more articles about the Perl programming language* would be a
good thing, and I'm not sure if anyone has suggested this approach before.

Nicholas Clark

*  Maybe the highly rigorous method behind Tiobe's index is simply to search
   the various London user groups' list archives for traffic. If so, that
   would explain a lot.

   Perhaps someone should name a programming language Beer. To see how fast
   its ranking rises.

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=PAHBZImmXsI#t=1153s

   So it turns out there's a big overlap between people who like computer
programming and people who like beer

   (I found all 35 minutes of that keynote is worth watching.)


Re: New perl features?

2013-03-18 Thread Peter Corlett
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 04:20:48PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 On 18 Mar 2013, at 16:00, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:
 You'll need to write in French, though. And get paid in Euro.
 Couldn't we just write loudly in CAPS?

Yes, however with that 20th century stereotype of British tourists, expect to
be paid in garlic, stripy jumpers, Gitanes and Gallic shrugs.



Pumpkin and Siesta

2013-03-18 Thread kosmikm0nga
While viewing the london.pm websight I saw mail list manager is written in 
pirate language python which is the rightful intellectual property of the 
python.co.uk hosting company.

For the marketing of community and raising of the profile of Newerish Perl in 
the community if we should port it to a more modern version of it and one which 
respects software patents?

I don't mean python 3 LOL!

Or the outdated Pumpkin 5 but Rakudo 6 to port to Siesta (a feature complete, 
widely used and stable mailing list system)!  

http://www.perl.com/pub/2004/02/05/siesta.html

We need discussions about which version control system to use for it (RCS over 
NFS?) and quoting style for the mailing list itself (top posting, supercite 
quoting and HTML only).  I done a new logo in Xpaint already.  We should host 
on Oracle Unbreakable Linux.  This Oracle/Siesta/Rakudo software stack should 
prove fast and reliable enough for our mailing list requirements.

I also propose renaming pumpkin to I can't believe it's not Perl!

Free NLP and kick boxing training for all comitters! 

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[ANNOUNCE] Perl Memories

2013-03-18 Thread Mark Keating
Further to my call for history about the last 25 years of Perl (if you 
missed the brief is: it I am seeking stories from the last 25 years of 
Perl - get them to me now people), and I want your personal stories here 
people I would also like any photos, including weird, the wonderful and 
the mundane.


I desperately need you all to help, if your story is I have only done 
this for 6 weeks and been to one PM meeting with a terrible phone-camera 
image,  want it and I want how you are to be credited.


I will pay with a lot of karma and thanks, I am also open to bribes.

You may include blackmail images :)

Thanks in Advance

-mdk

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