Heathrow Pushchair on BA

2013-07-08 Thread Smylers
Hello there. We've just booked a flight and have a couple of questions
about it, which I was wondering if anybody who's flown from Heathrow
terminal 5 or travelled with a pushchair on BA before will be able to
help with.

How long do we need to allow for getting through terminal 5? We don't
want to set our alarms unnecessarily early and have to fill time at the
airport, but obviously we don't want to miss our flight either.

The booking information says that we need to drop bags off by 45 minutes
before departure and have entered security at least 35 minutes before
departure. Any guidance for translating this into 'time by which we need
our Tube to have arrived at the platform' gratefully received. We'll
have bags to drop off, and ideally will be avoiding stairs and
escalators.

Our other question is about flying with buggies, especially with BA. The
flight information says our baby can take one fully collapsible
pushchair (stroller) in addition to his checked luggage allowance. Does
this mean the pushchair gets handed in with the checked luggage, and we
have to carry him through security and the gate without?

Also, any idea if fully collapsible means something different from
collapsible to BA -- does our buggy have to be particularly small when
folded in order to be allowed on at all?

Thanks for any advice.

Smylers
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Re: Heathrow Pushchair on BA

2013-07-08 Thread Kieren Diment
A pushchair is handled in essentially the same way as a wheelchair in my 
experience.  You'll probably be able to get it to the aircraft door or steps 
before stowing it.

On 08/07/2013, at 4:21 PM, Smylers wrote:

 Hello there. We've just booked a flight and have a couple of questions
 about it, which I was wondering if anybody who's flown from Heathrow
 terminal 5 or travelled with a pushchair on BA before will be able to
 help with.
 
 How long do we need to allow for getting through terminal 5? We don't
 want to set our alarms unnecessarily early and have to fill time at the
 airport, but obviously we don't want to miss our flight either.
 
 The booking information says that we need to drop bags off by 45 minutes
 before departure and have entered security at least 35 minutes before
 departure. Any guidance for translating this into 'time by which we need
 our Tube to have arrived at the platform' gratefully received. We'll
 have bags to drop off, and ideally will be avoiding stairs and
 escalators.
 
 Our other question is about flying with buggies, especially with BA. The
 flight information says our baby can take one fully collapsible
 pushchair (stroller) in addition to his checked luggage allowance. Does
 this mean the pushchair gets handed in with the checked luggage, and we
 have to carry him through security and the gate without?
 
 Also, any idea if fully collapsible means something different from
 collapsible to BA -- does our buggy have to be particularly small when
 folded in order to be allowed on at all?
 
 Thanks for any advice.
 
 Smylers
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 Stop drug companies hiding negative research results.
 Sign the AllTrials petition to get all clinical research results published.
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Re: Heathrow Pushchair on BA

2013-07-08 Thread Edmund von der Burg
On 8 July 2013 07:21, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
 Hello there. We've just booked a flight and have a couple of questions
 about it, which I was wondering if anybody who's flown from Heathrow
 terminal 5 or travelled with a pushchair on BA before will be able to
 help with.

 How long do we need to allow for getting through terminal 5? We don't
 want to set our alarms unnecessarily early and have to fill time at the
 airport, but obviously we don't want to miss our flight either.

 The booking information says that we need to drop bags off by 45 minutes
 before departure and have entered security at least 35 minutes before
 departure. Any guidance for translating this into 'time by which we need
 our Tube to have arrived at the platform' gratefully received. We'll
 have bags to drop off, and ideally will be avoiding stairs and
 escalators.

Terminal 5 is nice. There is a Wagamamas for child friendly food, and
a huge soft play area by Gate 7 (with an baby area). Go really early
and get on the plane with a full and tired child. We go three hours
before our flight as it is as nice a place to have breakfast or lunch
and let the dinks play as anywhere else.

Security can take longer with a change bag. Avoid taking ready made
formula (in bottles or cartons) as you'll need to open and taste some
of it. Take powder, getting warm water to make it up later is no
problem, even on plane.

Step free access everywhere, that won't be a problem.

 Our other question is about flying with buggies, especially with BA. The
 flight information says our baby can take one fully collapsible
 pushchair (stroller) in addition to his checked luggage allowance. Does
 this mean the pushchair gets handed in with the checked luggage, and we
 have to carry him through security and the gate without?

 Also, any idea if fully collapsible means something different from
 collapsible to BA -- does our buggy have to be particularly small when
 folded in order to be allowed on at all?

Ideally they'd like an umbrella buggy but we've not had problems
with our bigger pram. And our car seats are huge, and they've never
been a problem. Car seats go with the luggage straight away, buggies
are dropped off at gate, and depending on the destination come out
with the normal baggage on the conveyors, or are brought to the
aircraft door after you've landed. Be sure to ask which, as either
waiting around at the door, or having to get some to fetch it from the
door when you're at the conveyors is a pain.

Note with car seats that they don't provide plastic bags to put them
in anymore, so if there are loose bits or straps then best to bring
something to tie them up with.


Cheers,
  Edmund.

PS on the ground people get antsy about drugging kids, on a plane
no-one minds. If Calpol makes them sleep better hit them up with it :)
Take lots of jumpers to pad the seats with though - a toddler trying
to lie down invariably gets a buckle or something jammed into them
otherwise.


Re: Heathrow Pushchair on BA

2013-07-08 Thread Smylers
Kieren Diment writes:

 A pushchair is handled in essentially the same way as a wheelchair in
 my experience.  You'll probably be able to get it to the aircraft door
 or steps before stowing it.

Thanks, Kieren.

Edmund von der Burg writes:

 Terminal 5 is nice. There is a Wagamamas for child friendly food, and
 a huge soft play area by Gate 7 (with an baby area). Go really early
 and get on the plane with a full and tired child. We go three hours
 before our flight as it is as nice a place to have breakfast or lunch
 and let the dinks play as anywhere else.

Sounds a good suggestion.

But supposing we weren't to follow it, how long do you reckon it takes
for getting from Tube platform through baggage drop and to security?
(Obviously we'll add margins of error as well -- I'm just interested in
what the base time is for adding on to.)

We aren't great with mornings, our flight is a little earlier than
we'd've liked, and we'll have our baby's breakfast on us[*1], so I
suspect we won't plan to wake a sleeping baby just to spend longer at an
airport terminal, however nice it is.

  [*1] That statement will probably also be true, with a slightly
  different meaning, after breakfast time.

 Security can take longer with a change bag. Avoid taking ready made
 formula (in bottles or cartons) as you'll need to open and taste some
 of it. Take powder, getting warm water to make it up later is no
 problem, even on plane.

Useful -- thanks.

  Also, any idea if fully collapsible means something different from
  collapsible to BA -- does our buggy have to be particularly small
  when folded in order to be allowed on at all?
 
 Ideally they'd like an umbrella buggy but we've not had problems
 with our bigger pram.

Phew! Ours does collapse, but into a plane rather than a line.

 buggies are dropped off at gate, and depending on the destination come
 out with the normal baggage on the conveyors, or are brought to the
 aircraft door after you've landed. Be sure to ask which,

Again, most useful to know.

Thank you

Smylers


Re: Heathrow Pushchair on BA

2013-07-08 Thread Paul Weaver
Indeed. I've done about 55 flights on Ba this year, including 12 with a baby 
and pushchair. 

At check in they'll add a baggage tag to your chair, and you just push it 
though security. At boarding they call you first and you leave the chair by the 
plane. At most airports you can have it delivered back to the plane on landing. 

However with a 12 month old we found it easier to leave the chair at check in 
and carry the scamp in a sling. 

For check in, I leave things quite late, but then I fly several times a month 
ad cant afford to waste the time. Leave a little longer for security - 
especially if you're taking baby liquids, and unexpected nappy changes. 

Security at heathrow can be a pain, there's no way to predict it. Even so, 1h30 
should be fine. But I'd aim to get to heathrow about 2 hours just to be sure as 
you don't want to be stressing, you dont know the airport, and the tube can 
always get held up. I believe there's a kiddie play area in t5, somewhere near 
gate 7 once you get through.

I think you get 1 bag each, up to 23kg, plus 1 bag for the baby, plus a 
pushchair, plus a car seat, plus 1 piece of had luggage each, plus 1 for the 
baby, plus 1 personal item (handbag, laptop bag etc) each.

 I'm not sure how a two-piece travel system works as far as how many bags it 
takes - as a frequent flyer, 2 parents and baby get more bags than we can fit 
in the car, they used two tags for our chair/wheels combo. We took both through 
security. 

If you're on a long haul flight, it will probably go from B or C gates, 
which invokes a train ride after security. Certainly keep the pushchair with 
you in that case. 

By best Ba flight was exiting the taxi at 0955, and sitting down on the plane 
at 1002 for a 1005 departure. That was at Manchester, and I was very lucky.

On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:41, Kieren Diment dim...@gmail.com wrote:

 A pushchair is handled in essentially the same way as a wheelchair in my 
 experience.  You'll probably be able to get it to the aircraft door or steps 
 before stowing it.
 
 On 08/07/2013, at 4:21 PM, Smylers wrote:
 
 Hello there. We've just booked a flight and have a couple of questions
 about it, which I was wondering if anybody who's flown from Heathrow
 terminal 5 or travelled with a pushchair on BA before will be able to
 help with.
 
 How long do we need to allow for getting through terminal 5? We don't
 want to set our alarms unnecessarily early and have to fill time at the
 airport, but obviously we don't want to miss our flight either.
 
 The booking information says that we need to drop bags off by 45 minutes
 before departure and have entered security at least 35 minutes before
 departure. Any guidance for translating this into 'time by which we need
 our Tube to have arrived at the platform' gratefully received. We'll
 have bags to drop off, and ideally will be avoiding stairs and
 escalators.
 
 Our other question is about flying with buggies, especially with BA. The
 flight information says our baby can take one fully collapsible
 pushchair (stroller) in addition to his checked luggage allowance. Does
 this mean the pushchair gets handed in with the checked luggage, and we
 have to carry him through security and the gate without?
 
 Also, any idea if fully collapsible means something different from
 collapsible to BA -- does our buggy have to be particularly small when
 folded in order to be allowed on at all?
 
 Thanks for any advice.
 
 Smylers
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 Stop drug companies hiding negative research results.
 Sign the AllTrials petition to get all clinical research results published.
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WANTED: Speakers for technical talk 2013-07-25

2013-07-08 Thread Leon Brocard
Hi all,

I'm looking for speakers for a technical talk on 2013-07-25 around
Liverpool Street. If you're interested in speaking on something vaguely
Perl-related for around 20 minutes, for example to practice a
YAPC::Europe talk, please email me offlist.

More details soon.

Thanks, Leon



Re: WANTED: Speakers for technical talk 2013-07-25

2013-07-08 Thread Joel Bernstein
Leon,

is it a Perl specific event? I'm not in London so wouldn't be able to make
it, but am happy to share this wider if it's open to other related tech
talks.

/joel


On 8 July 2013 20:35, Leon Brocard a...@astray.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm looking for speakers for a technical talk on 2013-07-25 around
 Liverpool Street. If you're interested in speaking on something vaguely
 Perl-related for around 20 minutes, for example to practice a
 YAPC::Europe talk, please email me offlist.

 More details soon.

 Thanks, Leon





Re: WANTED: Speakers for technical talk 2013-07-25

2013-07-08 Thread Jason Clifford
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 19:35 +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 I'm looking for speakers for a technical talk on 2013-07-25 around
 Liverpool Street. If you're interested in speaking on something vaguely
 Perl-related for around 20 minutes, for example to practice a
 YAPC::Europe talk, please email me offlist.

What is the event?

I may be free and I'd be willing to talk.




Re: WANTED: Speakers for technical talk 2013-07-25

2013-07-08 Thread Tom Hukins
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:12:06PM +0100, Jason Clifford wrote:
 On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 19:35 +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
  I'm looking for speakers for a technical talk on 2013-07-25 around
  Liverpool Street. If you're interested in speaking on something vaguely
  Perl-related for around 20 minutes, for example to practice a
  YAPC::Europe talk, please email me offlist.
 
 What is the event?
 
 I may be free and I'd be willing to talk.

It's the the next London.pm technical meeting.

Tom