Job

2014-03-28 Thread Andrey Kovbovich
Looking for a job. 3+ years of perl programming. Mainly web-backend
programming. Telecommute or on-site (with relocation options). English -
intermediate, russian - native. More here
http://www.linkedin.com/in/akovbovich

Thank You.


Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Gordon Banner


On 28/03/2014 21:01, Paul Makepeace wrote:

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:55 AM, david  wrote:

Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to 
buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my 
compatability platform...

The trick is to go for the "OEM" license. This is cheaper because
you're opting not to hassle MS for support.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Paul


You're also agreeing never to transfer it to another machine.  I think 
machine is actually "motherboard", ie you can change other components, 
provided MS don't think you're trying to sneak a complete change through.


Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:55 AM, david  wrote:
>
> Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to 
> buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my 
> compatability platform...

The trick is to go for the "OEM" license. This is cheaper because
you're opting not to hassle MS for support.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Paul


Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Fred Youhanaie



On 27/03/14 17:01, Smylers wrote:

Fred Youhanaie writes:


On 27/03/14 11:48, Smylers wrote:


• Ubuntu:  The OS will install, but I don't know if Mum's scanner
   will work with it, and I'm pretty sure it won't work in the same
   way, where pressing a physical button on the scanner causes some
   HP application to open on the desktop with the scanned document.


Why not try it with live CD, before going ahead with the installation.


Oooh, does Ubuntu still fit on a CD? That's a good idea. Thanks.


I doubt it, but you should be able to install any packages you want to try out 
temporarily during the live CD session.

I think LibreOffice is usually included, but probably not the scanner software.

Cheers
f.


Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Smylers
Gordon Banner writes:

> > I do not use Windows, but AFAIK XP->Win7 is an upgrade, not a wipe
> > and re-install.
> 
> From the back of the Win7 upgrade pack:
> "If you are upgrading from XP, you will need to back up your files
> and settings, perform a clean install and then reinstall your files,
> settings and programs."

Good to know. Thanks.

> If your scanner doesn't have manufacturer drivers for newer Windows
> versions, try VueScan.

That, too.

> +1 for the live-CD/USB test.  You could actually give your parents a
> chance to say "that's horrible/fantastic" before committing, as well
> as testing scanner drivers.  User-focus!

Yeah, it seems like a good first approach.

> Re the security fears: I think the logic is not so much that XP will
> suddenly fall apart, but that whenever MS publish fixes for Vista or
> 7, blackhats will look to see if the same holes exist unpatched in
> XP.

OK.

Smylers
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Re: You make a lovely teddy bear

2014-03-28 Thread James Laver
On 28 Mar 2014, at 12:18, Mallory van Achterberg  
wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 04:37:35PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
>> So I'd like to thank you all for being my teddy bear:
>>  http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/tpop/debugging.html
>> 
> 
> I thought it was called "rubber duck", for some reason...

Also: cardboard man. I used to keep a rubber duck on my desk for this purpose, 
and a former boss used to make a great cardboard man despite knowing nothing 
about programming (he was smart, just lacked programming knowledge).

James


Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Smylers
James Laver writes:

> On 27 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Smylers  wrote:
> 
> Ubuntu has built in VNC support. If you can walk your mother through
> setting up reverse SSH tunnel*, you’d be able to do it for her,
> remotely.
> 
> James
> 
> * Well, it’s only one command. You’d need a bounce box though.

A good suggestion. Thanks.

Smylers
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Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Gareth Harper
Scan seem to have them in, though it doesn't look too cheap.

http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/software/645/676/677

On 28 March 2014 10:59, david  wrote:
> But the places I've looked in don't seem to have any stock (or I've had 
> concerns over legitimacy). I assume M$ has been restricting availabilty of 7 
> to try and force Win 8 on people...
>
>
> --
> Sent from some kind of mobile device...
>
>  Original message 
> From Raphael Mankin 
> Date: 28/03/2014  10:17  (GMT+00:00)
> To david ,"London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers" 
> 
> Subject Re: XP-Replacement for Parents
>
> On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 09:55 +, david wrote:
>> Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to 
>> buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my 
>> compatability platform...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
> >From your local, private computer shop, not PC WOrld, Dixons etc. Where
> they have technically clueful people and you can talk to a real human
> being.
>


Re: You make a lovely teddy bear

2014-03-28 Thread Mallory van Achterberg
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 04:37:35PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
> So I'd like to thank you all for being my teddy bear:
>   http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/tpop/debugging.html
> 

I thought it was called "rubber duck", for some reason...


[ANNOUNCE] Thursday 3rd April

2014-03-28 Thread Rick Deller
Hi All,

Just a quick reminder that the London PM meet up is on Thursday 3rd April

It's at The Counting House , 50 Cornhill , London , EC3V 3PD - We are in the 
Gallery Room from 6.30 (1st floor)
http://the-counting-house.com/

There will be Waitress service and Ill will be putting money behind the bar for 
drinks

Rick





Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread david
But the places I've looked in don't seem to have any stock (or I've had 
concerns over legitimacy). I assume M$ has been restricting availabilty of 7 to 
try and force Win 8 on people...


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 Original message 
From Raphael Mankin  
Date: 28/03/2014  10:17  (GMT+00:00) 
To david ,"London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers" 
 
Subject Re: XP-Replacement for Parents 
 
On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 09:55 +, david wrote:
> Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to 
> buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my 
> compatability platform...
> 
> Thanks
> 

>From your local, private computer shop, not PC WOrld, Dixons etc. Where
they have technically clueful people and you can talk to a real human
being.



Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Raphael Mankin
On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 09:55 +, david wrote:
> Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to 
> buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my 
> compatability platform...
> 
> Thanks
> 

>From your local, private computer shop, not PC WOrld, Dixons etc. Where
they have technically clueful people and you can talk to a real human
being.



Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread James Laver

On 27 Mar 2014, at 23:42, Wendy G.A. van Dijk  wrote:

> Scanners  I never had luck with scanner support on Windows XP, always 
> stupid errors.  This behaviour of idiots working on drivers at the scanner 
> manufacturers is continued for support in Ubuntu.  It just sucks always.  
> Almost none of the extended options promised, ever work for me.  Not back 
> than in XP, and not now in Ubuntu.  I just have to scan my shit to a USB 
> stick, and copy the files to my computer later.  Universal law of 
> conservation of suckdom.

(slightly OT…)

Scanners and printers are the source of most of my historical frustrations with 
computers.

I’ve finally achieved hardware peripheral nirvana by buying a Scansnap S220m 
(sheet-fed) and a cheap lexmark laser and plugging them into my mac, whereupon 
scanning becomes “launch scansnap software, hit button on front of scanner” and 
printing just works. Before this, I more or less gave up because I’ve never had 
much luck. The part where software has to touch the real world is where it all 
goes wrong.

James


Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread david
Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to 
buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my 
compatability platform...

Thanks


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 Original message 
From David Cantrell  
Date: 27/03/2014  23:59  (GMT+00:00) 
To london.pm@london.pm.org 
Subject Re: XP-Replacement for Parents 
 
On 27/03/2014 17:34, Smylers wrote:
> David Cantrell writes:
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 03:21:02PM +, Smylers wrote:
>>> Note my concerns weren't about the OS's user interface, but scanner
>>> support and a couple of decades' worth of WordPerfect documents.
>> Assuming that Ubuntu supports the scanner, WordPerfect could run
>> inside a WinXP VM.
> Does that avoid the security problems with running XP directly?

Sort of. If the XP VM is isolated from the interweb - so never runs a 
browser, never runs a mail client - that'll cut out the vast majority of 
the risk. Of course, the user can still sneak things into it manually 
(infected files for example) or if you've got USB pass-through enabled 
(useful for the scanner!) there's a risk of auto-running nonsense on 
Flash drives. I think the auto-run idiocy can be turned off though.

I'd still install some antivirus thingy just to be on the safe side - 
paranoid, but can't do any harm. I believe AVG is the freebie of choice.

Counter-intuitively, once support stops, you should actively turn off 
any OS updates, just in case some naughty person manages to do something 
like hijack the DNS and serve malware to the millions of XP machines 
that will still be out there.

> Also, would the XP that came with the laptop work in a VM?

No idea.

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