Re: info on eligo
On 23/05/2014 10:06, Mark Keating wrote: I recommend you talk to Rick Deller at Eligo. He is keen to be as ethical a recruiter as possible, has a keen interest in the community and has sponsored a number of events to help enhance the community. He understands the importance of community and business as a relationship and I think you'll find him accommodating and productive. RIck's also the guy I mostly work with, btw. Recommended.
Re: info on eligo
On 23/05/2014 04:27, Uri Guttman wrote: tell me what you know about eligo recruitment. what kind of rep do they have among this list? they regularly post UK jobs to the perl jobs list and i see some US postings as well. i am interested in contacting them to see if they would do some joint placement. if they are a large corp type they will likely not do it. they claim to be smallish with 20 or so people. I've hired maybe half a dozen through Eligo in the past. It's always gone smoothly, and they work quite well with us. I'd recommend them.
Re: OT: Cheapo vps hosting
On 13-06-21 04:43 PM, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Happy to recommend both bitfolk and bytemark. I have VPSs with both of them and get excellent service. +1 for bytemark. Particularly: http://www.bigv.io/
Re: Scope of variables in a function
On 13-06-01 05:43 PM, Andrew Beverley wrote:
Could somebody explain why the following code prints "barbar" rather
than "bar" please? I am trying to understand why the $result variable in
the search function retains its value the second time the function is
called.
...
sub search($)
{ ...
my $result = "FOO" if $in =~ /foo/;
Because your my statement is conditional. You dangled an if.
It's never run, but warnings aren't triggered because of the my
statement's existence (which seems fair, really).
So $result is never initialized, and retails last assigned value.
HTH
gbjk
Re: Alternative sources of Perl programmers
On 13-05-13 10:48 PM, Mark Fowler wrote: On Monday, May 13, 2013, Duncan Garland wrote: We're advertising for a Perl programmer again, and once again we are struggling. The question I ask anyone who has problems hiring for any IT position is "have you considered telecommute?" We've had a mix of teleworkers and onsite staff, going back over the past decade. Last year I started to consider the issues of hiring good programmers locally, and concluded that there isn't really a choice. So we embraced teleworking completely when hiring new programmers recently. It's made a world of difference. The CVs from agents trickled in. I would have thought that meant that the perl programmers weren't out there. But the response to our jobs.perl.org advert was enormous, and very good quality indeed. I'm still open to anything through agents, because if I find "the right candidate" then I wouldn't care where they came from. I'd suggest opening yourself up to telecommuting. Make sure you actually hire for it as a skill, though. Assuming "You're a good dev, you can work from home, surely?" can be disastrous. Watch for signs of demotivation, and ensure that there's some "telecommuting best practices" available.
Re: LPW2012 slides and videos ?
On 13/12/12 11:33, pierre masci wrote: Hi all, i was told that videos of the LPW2012 would be available online in the near future, is this still true? Has it happened already? Steady on, we're still waiting for YAPC::Eu videos, aren't we?
Re: 5 minimums for any perl script?
On 30/01/12 13:46, Dominic Thoreau wrote: The issue I have with perltidy, nice as it is, is that just making it a rule can be problematic with existing untidy code bases. Untidy code + small change = unrelated blame attaches to unfortunate developer. If you were writing new code, yes perl tidy is good, but you can't always force it. I envision one big "perltidy" commit to the codebase as the solution to that. I also generally strongly recommend that all commits should separate out prerequisite changes from commits. Fix indentation separately. Rename a variable everywhere separately. Now finish the code you were writing when you started that yak.
Re: Gatwick
I don't use anything else, personally.
Though, living "on a hill above gatwick", I'm always using it the other
way - too and from London.
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 15:17 +0100, Michael Stevens wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:12:20PM +0100, Dirk Koopman wrote:
> > On 25/07/11 14:34, Smylers wrote:
> > >Hello. How big is Gatwick Airport? More specifically, about how long do
> > >I need to allow for walking from its railway station to the check-in
> > >hall ('Terminal S', according to my ticket)?
> > >
> >
> > Be warned that "the Gatwick Express" is noticeably more expensive,
> > and not much quicker (if you choose your starting point in London
> > correctly), than yer normal train.
>
> It's very comfy though!
Re: Gatwick
It's split between two terminals, connected by a mono-rail.
The station is in the south terminal.
You can walk anywhere in the south terminal pre-checkin inside 10
minutes, but leave 15 just in case.
No wisdom about touch-down to station time - it's so dependent on things
going smoothly.
Best case scenario is probably about 30 minutes, though.
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 14:34 +0100, Smylers wrote:
> Hello. How big is Gatwick Airport? More specifically, about how long do
> I need to allow for walking from its railway station to the check-in
> hall ('Terminal S', according to my ticket)?
>
> I don't think I've been to Gatwick before -- it isn't the obvious
> airport for somebody living in Leeds -- but I will be flying to Riga
> from there, so am currently trying to work out appropriate connecting
> trains and wondering whether I need to allow for several miles of
> travelators or anything in my timings.
>
> And any wisdom on likely time between scheduled touchdown on the return
> flight and being back at the station also appreciated, though I
> appreciate that's laughably hard to predict. I'll only have hand
> luggage, so does expecting to be at the platform in an hour sound
> reasonable?
>
> (I won't of course be depending on things being reasonable, and will add
> a margin of error to allow for unreasonableness, but it'd be handy to
> have some idea of the base time.)
>
> Thanks -- and looking forward to seeing many of you in Riga.
>
> Smylers
Re: iPhone programming
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 00:12 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good book on iPhone programming and Objective C? > Assume that I know *nothing* about Obj C or XCode. I've found this to be starting from a similar position: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0596806434/ref=asc_df_05968064342994861?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=googlecouk06-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=0596806434 I still hate xcode, but at least I can get it to do what I want. Two frameworks that work well for different areas of iphone app programming: PhoneGap - Bridge between web stuff and objective-c which can control hardware or interact with the O/S better Also handles packaging a web app for distribution Sencha Touch - Web interface toolkit for writing iphone apps. Can be very scripty; No HTML involved at all really. It's MVC, too, which is good. http://www.sencha.com/learn/Tutorial:A_Sencha_Touch_MVC_application_with_PhoneGap It's also free.
Re: Part-time Perl Developer Position based Reading, UK
> Career progression is overrated if the only available "progression" is into a > role one doesn't want. > > People rise through the ranks into the position of senior developer because > they love rolling up their sleeves and making stuff, and are good enough at > it that others are prepared to pay them pretty good money to do it for them. > Each promotion or new job involves more responsibility and learning new > things. It will normally also involve more money, but that can often be a > secondary consideration. > > And then what? The next stop on offer is usually management, perhaps through > a team leader role. Which is *obviously* a further refinement of a > programmer's craft. Senior management may well think that people want to go > into management, but that's just projection of their own desires, and a > complete lack of understanding of what drives their technical staff. > > (I also suspect this is why there is a proliferation of Perl contractors: it > was either that, or the lobotomy and pointy haircut.) Completely agree. Sometimes it just seems to go that way, though. The wider experience you have, the more your skills are required to add context to the work others might do, than to specifically achieve yourself. You can very quickly end up doing very little programming, but using your experience to guide others instead. And you're right that that's not what most of us are in it for. What concerns me about that is that over time, I think the depth of your knowledge reduces, because things evolve. You probably acquire the breadth of knowledge by years of diving into specific tasks, until all put together they form a breadth of understanding and skill. But when you start to solely apply that breadth, and no longer add new depth, I fear it devalues until you're not as valuable. Trying to work back from that to a desired balance of "STFU and write some code" is quite hard, too. Not only that, but if you become accustomed, or even dependent, on the salary that comes with that role of more responsibility, you can't easily step back down to a different role. It's still your individual choice, but falls into the category of "be careful what you wish for". I always thought mst had it well balanced, but his talk at last year's yapc suggested he too struggles to get the keyboard as much as he wants.
Re: a good tool for planning projects/resources/holidays at high level rather than per task?
Fogbugz has holidays built into it's "evidence based scheduling", which you can enter for users or sites, as well as working schedules, velocity, etc. We've been using it for a while, having migrated from Trac, and I'm very happy with it. On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 10:16 +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > Ugh. > > Not sure how that would be any nicer than current spreadsheet I'm > using :( >
Re: Scotch!
What a magical kingdom! On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 12:03 +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: > Hi, fellow drinkers, > > Here's what you all missed by not coming to the emergency social at the > Britannia: > > http://abuse.mooli.org.uk/dscf3859.jpg > http://abuse.mooli.org.uk/dscf3861.jpg > >
Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 11:43 +0100, Jasper wrote: > It sounds to me like you just need to stop deviating your wrists and > force yourself to use your arm. A pair of those spiffy bowling glove > things would be just the trick. (There is a good Get Fuzzy strip about > this, but I can't find it) Whilst that's exactly what I've been doing, religiously, it's still not solving my core belief though - keyboards seem wrong, given the ability to interact using less range of movement and less force, with no requirement to reposition hands to use different devices. Am I alone in this disillusionment? Nobody's replied with anything positive about datahands (or alternatives other to keyboards), but rather "instead try this keyboard" or "do this to avoid rsi issues". Worthwhile, useful and appreciated comments, but IMO they're trying to avoid addressing a more fundamental limitation of standard keyboards which I'd like to completely sidestep.
Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:44 +0100, James Laver wrote: > I would just get a unicomp. It's shaped like a keyboard, it feels like > a very good keyboard (springs, they bounce back at your fingers!) and > my typing speed is improved using one overall. Of course you'll want > to keep a correct typing position or the whole exercise becomes one in > futility. Thanks for the tip. I got it from another monger recently. Whilst I dislike microsoft in general, I've been a natural keyboard user for 10+ years now, and currently use the new 7000. I've found the split design and slightly concave design is a step forwards for them, and their key travel and spring has always been very good. However what I really want to do is completely move away from keyboards for the majority of my usage. My keyboard usage is very strict, and I've gotten more rigid with certain things. The most important of those for me is to try and minimise wrist movement, and to avoid using fingers when the wrists are turned. One particular offend of this is using the cursor keys with the little right finger, just quickly turning the wrist and arm to reach. That was a bad habit for a while, and I've switched to enforcing moving the whole of the forearm slightly when I need the cursors. There are some unavoidables on any type of traditional keybaord, though. The backspace key is always hit by my right ring finger, which causes extension. If anyone's thinking that I press the backspace key too often, then you're right: The number of times I type an expletive in email or IRC and then delete it is extraordinary ;o) I've considered using joel's approach to RSI, and just not delete the expletives. I also try to ensure my forearm to wrist alignment is close to natural when typing. I guess RSI is about 80% of my motivation here. Whilst I don't suffer currently, and when I feel a twinge I can adapt, I've hopefully got a long career ahead of me. I'm 27 and I've been touch typing for 12 years, the last 10 of which have often been hard work for sometimes 70 hour weeks. I want to be proactive about protecting my future against the risk of damage. I hear from so many people who have been working for 40+ years with bad habits and no issue. But I also hear from people whose lives have been severely affected. It's a die I'd prefer not to cast, tbh. Maybe that might seem melodramatic to anyone who has worked in similar for many decades without issue, I don't know.
Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:12 +0100, James Laver wrote: > What is it about the Datahand that you're interested in? RSI > avoidance? Or do you think it will increase your typing speed? > > If it's the RSI avoidance, there are a number of other recommendable > keyboards. Or for the typing speed thing, likewise. A combination of the two, in addition to the fact that I believe that there should be a fundamental revolution in the way we interact with computers, and what's often holding us back is the perceived unwillingness of the great unwashed to adapt to something new. Now a datahand isn't a revolution, but it's a step. Magnetic keys and millimetres of finger movement to signal to the computer is a step up from mechanical buttons and inches of movement. I also like not having to move hands far (or at all) to use a mouse. I love the thinkpad mouse button in the home row for that. One consideration is dvorak, but: - It doesn't change the fact that your hands are moving more than they need to in order to interact with the computer - dvorak can be used on a datahand. I'm on datahand's waiting list for the next batch, but I also wanted to explore. I've read very good things about the datahands over the years - do I perceive that you're against them or believe something else is better? Certainly other options are actually immediately available.
Apple Xserve for sale
We have an Apple Xserve for sale. Twin 3.0GHz Dual-Core intel xenon 4GB RAM 80GB 7200rpm sata 750GB 7200rpm sata 750GB 7200rpm sata DVD-Rom/CD-RW ATI Raedon x1300 64MB Dual channel gigabit Ethernet Dual 650W power Rack mounting kit OSX 10.5 It cost £5k originally and we've had it for about a year, but it's only been turned on a few times and barely used. There isn't much to suggest what kind of price we should be looking for, so pitch offers at us if you're interested. gbjk
RE: [ANNOUNCE] Surrey.pm Social, Thursday 25 Sep
> Due to lack of anyone else suitably brave to decide on a Pub location > for Surrey.pm, the one suggestion that was seconded will hereby be the > designated location for the first (to my knowledge) Surrey.pm meet. Urgh. Would love to make it but my car is with the tuners right now :o( G
RE: Surrey.pm
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 09:21:31AM +0100, Piers Cawley said: > > One wonders if there's any nearby town in Surrey whose name begins > > with D. If there is then Leon could come along to the first meet and > > get one more notch on his 'alphabet of mongers groups of which Leon > > is a founder member' belt. > > Dorking? Right next to me, that is.
IRC
Is it my client, or has IRC gone down ? ( I was using someone's kindly donated temporary geekflat.org host to connect to ) Gareth KirwanProgramming & Development,Thermeon Europe Ltd,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 (0) 1293 864 303Thermeon Europe e-Card: gbjk
RE: irc server
I knew it would be Magnus - everything's his fault! :D Gareth > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leon Brocard > Sent: 10 June 2003 16:03 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: irc server > > > dabox, the current london.pm irc server, has gone boom. We've, errr, > moved forward our plans to migrate to a new irc server. Please connect > to geekflat.org #london.pm until DNS wakes up and does the right > thing. > > Thanks, Leon > > ps I blame Magnus > -- > Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ > scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ > > ... If I were you, who'd be me? >
RE: Alternatives to CGI.pm
Do you compress your output after Mason ? If so - whatcha use ? Gareth > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dirk Koopman > Sent: 31 March 2003 11:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Alternatives to CGI.pm > > I didn't know it was something to hide... > > I had better come out then. I use it as well.. > > Dirk > -- > Please Note: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the > Consumer Is Not Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to > Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State.
RE: Alternatives to CGI.pm
There - SEE - people DO use Mason. :D .oO( Now I just have to find someone using my whacky nesting style, eh ? ) Gareth > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Reades > Sent: 31 March 2003 10:30 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Alternatives to CGI.pm > > > > CGI_Lite (not CGI::Lite) worked for me until I switched to Mason. > > http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/S/SH/SHGUN/ > > jon > > Simon Wilcox wrote: > > Over on the GLLUG list there's a thread about why someone > doesn't use > > CGI.pm. His answer is that it doesn't support CSS very > well, which is > > kinda true but then he should be using a templating system > for that kind > > of advanced stuff. > > > > I want to recommend that he uses CGI.pm anyway, for it's > form parsing > > code but then I thought that there should be a lighter weight module > > that just does form handling without all the other froth. > > > > The CGI:: namespace is probably one of the most heavily > polluted areas > > of the CPAN so does anyone have recommendations for a module that > > handles get/post and file uploads ? > > > > Simon. > > > > -- > jon reades > fulcrum analytics > t: 0870.366.9338 > m: 0797.698.7392 > f: 0870.888.8880 > > lower ground floor > 2 sheraton street > london w1f 8bh > > > >
RE: Learning regular expressions
Hey - I didn't realise there was a second edition.
Mastering Regular expressions is what I learnt from, found it great.
Gareth
> -Original Message-
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Fowler
>
> You'd be better off with the 2nd Edition.
>
> O'Reilly: 0-596-00289-0
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/
>
> Shouldn't someone be reviewing this for the site?
>
> Mark.
>
> --
> #!/usr/bin/perl -T
> use strict;
> use warnings;
> print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> http://twoshortplanks.com/};
RE: Buffy/Angel (No Spoilers)
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Cross > Angel Season 3 isn't out on DVD until the start of March. I'd > guess you'll have at least another six months to wait after that. > > Dave... Don't know what's wrong with me today - I meant VHS ( I've got all 1-3 on VHS )
RE: Buffy/Angel (No Spoilers)
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Cross > Yeah. It was the first episode of season 4. So it's a pretty > crucial episode by all accounts :) > > Dave... I don't even want a *hint* of what happens :p Anyone know how long it will be until the release of dvds ?
RE: Buffy/Angel (No Spoilers)
Is that the next series of Angel ? ( 4 ) I've been waiting for it to start coz I won't get to see it until it's out on dvd > -Original Message- > I really shouldn't go out on a Thursday night :-/ > > My video and my cable box conspired to record both Buffy and > Angel last > night without sound. If anyone has them on VHS or SVCD and > would be willing > to let me borrow or copy them I would be most grateful. > > Thanks, > > Dave... > > -- > "Don't you boys know any _nice_ songs?" >
RE: [OT] RH Perl 5.8.0
> > Nicholas Clark said: > > You might want to build your own 6.8.0 for /usr/local > without threads > > hehe, i see we've jumped just a _little_ bit into the future here ;) > > Jody OOH - Pre-anticipated releases - Is perl being written by Apple inc? lol :D - Gareth
RE: Perl Vacancy in Watford
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 06:09:15PM -, Gavin Young wrote: > > >I am looking for Perl programmers to work for Tuskerdirect > Ltd (www.tuskerdirect.com). > > I have reason to believe that, unlike some job postings, this is a > genuine vacancy. > > Roger > This is genuine :-) Gareth
RE: 5.8.0
> The latest, most-tested-ever, stable version of Perl, version 5.8.0 > was released on 18th July 2002, which is a while ago. We use it at > work for development and on the new production servers. I don't use it > on my personal colo box (it has so much stuff running it'd be a pain > to update). > > Consider this a small survey. > > Do you use Perl 5.8.0? Why? > > Leon > -- > Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ > scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ > > ... Eschew obfuscation! > I'd love to move to 5.8.0, especially after your recommendation a second ago on irc. However our main server is production - and our devel servers are tied up testing other stuff for now - so they can't test it yet. Looks like we're stuck on 5.6.1 for now :-( Gareth
RE: re IRC
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 07:52:56PM -0000, Gareth Kirwan wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 02:30:42PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > > > > Q: Does anyone care what message posting style you prefer? > > > > A: Doubtful. > > > Which is why you wrote: > > What AM i doing here? > > > >> On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Gareth Kirwan topquoted thusly: > > > ? > > > Just glad to know you practice that which you preach. > > ya what ... I'm i missing something - where'd I come into this ? > > A message that you wrote a few weeks ago, followed-up by this Devers > character, who told me that telling people I didn't like them top-quoting > was evil and bad. It just happened to be one I found. > > -- > Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002 > S'ok - It was before I got my client fixed - when I was switching back to a perl system i used to use. Problem being that I need a different style of replying between mailing lists and work conversations No harm done - i hope :-) Gareth
RE: re IRC
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 02:30:42PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > > Q: Does anyone care what message posting style you prefer? > > A: Doubtful. > > Which is why you wrote: What AM i doing here? > >> On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Gareth Kirwan topquoted thusly: > ? > > Just glad to know you practice that which you preach. > > -- > Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002 > ya what ... I'm i missing something - where'd I come into this ?
RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal
That'd be interesting - I've avoided any meetings up till now! I didn't realise perl had such a fan club... it's nice to see it's so appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Natalie S. Ford Sent: 20 November 2002 15:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Book: Best of the Perl Journal On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:27:24AM +, Andy Wardley wrote: > This sounds like the perfect opportunity to resurrect Surrey.pm. > How about a meeting in Guildford one night next week or soon thereafter? Sounds good to me! Neil and I live in Sussex, but Guildford is only 30 mins away and MUCH easier to get to than London for .pm meets. Will it be hardcore perl or will non-perlies like myself be welcome? -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.natalie.ourshack.org .. http://natalief.livejournal.com
RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal
.oO( you could always fax a page at a time ;-) ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Graham Barr Sent: 19 November 2002 11:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Book: Best of the Perl Journal I forgot to add, the winner will be picked a random, possibly biased by how easy it is to get the book to them (this book has >700 pages so its not light, so if they are close enough I will deliver it) or how much they bribe me with donations to the Perl Foundation. Graham. On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:49:00AM +, Graham Barr wrote: > As an author I have just been sent two copies of this book by O'Reilly. > I have no use for a second copy, so I thought I would throw it up for grabs. > > However, I live in Guildford and dont travel to London, so it would be > easier if it was delivered to someone to the south of London. > > Graham.
RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal
Nice area of the world, that. I go up to stay occasionally in Wansford, Peterborough - which is quite close to there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Graham Barr Sent: 19 November 2002 11:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Book: Best of the Perl Journal On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:01:45AM -, Gareth Kirwan wrote: > There's me surprised at Guildford - where do all you lot hide? Well as I said I am in Guildford, now. But soon I will be moving to Wisbech in Cambridgeshire. Graham.
RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal
Horley is about 2 minutes by car from me. Where do you work, London ? Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Fryer Sent: 19 November 2002 11:03 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal Horley is 2 minutes away from Gatwick airport on a train :-) Small tiny little place. Go to Gatwick whenever I woke late as it's the only way home :-) Neil -Original Message----- From: Gareth Kirwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal You have GOT to be joking?! There's me surprised at Guildford - where do all you lot hide? Where abouts in Horley? I'm actually in Charlwood - our office is at the top of Russ HIll over-looking Gatwick airport Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Fryer Sent: 19 November 2002 10:51 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal 'ello I live in Horley in Surrey and would love a copy if no one else has snagged it already? Thanks Neil Fryer -Original Message- From: Graham Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Book: Best of the Perl Journal As an author I have just been sent two copies of this book by O'Reilly. I have no use for a second copy, so I thought I would throw it up for grabs. However, I live in Guildford and dont travel to London, so it would be easier if it was delivered to someone to the south of London. Graham.
RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal
You have GOT to be joking?! There's me surprised at Guildford - where do all you lot hide? Where abouts in Horley? I'm actually in Charlwood - our office is at the top of Russ HIll over-looking Gatwick airport Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Fryer Sent: 19 November 2002 10:51 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal 'ello I live in Horley in Surrey and would love a copy if no one else has snagged it already? Thanks Neil Fryer -Original Message- From: Graham Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Book: Best of the Perl Journal As an author I have just been sent two copies of this book by O'Reilly. I have no use for a second copy, so I thought I would throw it up for grabs. However, I live in Guildford and dont travel to London, so it would be easier if it was delivered to someone to the south of London. Graham.
RE: Book: Best of the Perl Journal
Completely off the point - Guildford's right next to me - ( I'm in Gatwick ) What a small world it really is... Strange - considering when anyone asks me what languages I write - and I mention perl as one of them - it never gets an "I've heard of that" ... unlike c++ / Java etc Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Graham Barr Sent: 19 November 2002 10:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Book: Best of the Perl Journal As an author I have just been sent two copies of this book by O'Reilly. I have no use for a second copy, so I thought I would throw it up for grabs. However, I live in Guildford and dont travel to London, so it would be easier if it was delivered to someone to the south of London. Graham.
RE: book
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of David Cantrell > Sent: 08 November 2002 19:58 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: book > > > O'Reilly have "Building Secure Servers with Linux" available, anyone want > to review it? > > -- > David Cantrell|Degenerate|http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david > > "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, > hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H. L. Mencken > They don't have a "Building Secure Servers with Windows" do they ? If they do - I'll take that, and "Water into wine for beginners" and "Walked over the Nile, now what? ( Walking on water for advanced users ) " Sorry - It's late and I might start to /think/ I'm funny any moment soon. Gareth
RE: (no sanity)
Sod it - I'm completely loosing it. I thought it was *this* list that took my replies and appended them in the normal format. It obviously isn't! lol :D Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Gareth Kirwan Sent: 08 November 2002 17:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (no sanity) Sorry about that - I expected it to check the subject of the Original Message section to see how to append it... It obviously didn't :D Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Gareth Kirwan Sent: 08 November 2002 17:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (no sanity) Out of interest - what are you trying to compare about them? The size, the order ? Would it matter if they contained the same values in a different order? Is it multi-dimensional? Just a few buckets of gasoline to add to the discussion ;-) Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Ivor Williams Sent: 08 November 2002 17:40 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: (no subject) On Friday, November 08, 2002 5:28 PM, Kevin Gurney [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Anyone able to shed some light on how i can compare 2 arrays. > > I've tried ==, and this don't seem to work. > This may be overkill for what you want, but check out Algorithm::Diff on CPAN. http://search.cpan.org/search?query=Algorithm::Diff
RE: (no sanity)
Sorry about that - I expected it to check the subject of the Original Message section to see how to append it... It obviously didn't :D Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Gareth Kirwan Sent: 08 November 2002 17:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (no sanity) Out of interest - what are you trying to compare about them? The size, the order ? Would it matter if they contained the same values in a different order? Is it multi-dimensional? Just a few buckets of gasoline to add to the discussion ;-) Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Ivor Williams Sent: 08 November 2002 17:40 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: (no subject) On Friday, November 08, 2002 5:28 PM, Kevin Gurney [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Anyone able to shed some light on how i can compare 2 arrays. > > I've tried ==, and this don't seem to work. > This may be overkill for what you want, but check out Algorithm::Diff on CPAN. http://search.cpan.org/search?query=Algorithm::Diff
RE: (no sanity)
Out of interest - what are you trying to compare about them? The size, the order ? Would it matter if they contained the same values in a different order? Is it multi-dimensional? Just a few buckets of gasoline to add to the discussion ;-) Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Ivor Williams Sent: 08 November 2002 17:40 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: (no subject) On Friday, November 08, 2002 5:28 PM, Kevin Gurney [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Anyone able to shed some light on how i can compare 2 arrays. > > I've tried ==, and this don't seem to work. > This may be overkill for what you want, but check out Algorithm::Diff on CPAN. http://search.cpan.org/search?query=Algorithm::Diff
RE: Perl is someone else's bitch
lol - well that was a quick introduction. I'm new to this list, and a few other perl lists around. I've tended to only use the Mason lists before now, but I've realised recently that it might be worth keeping in on a few others to see what I'm missing out on. :-) Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Lusercop Sent: 08 November 2002 00:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Perl is someone else's bitch On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 05:00:29PM -, Gareth Kirwan wrote: > Didn't anyone warn you that being on this list means they already have no > reputation ;-) I'm sure that we all have our reputations. Greg certainly does, his drinking abilities are legendary. Evil Dave is, well, evil. Simon Wilcox is very obviously turning back into that corporate type, and David Adler is responsible for the ';' -> 'vanderbilt' transformation (as helpfully enacted by the Hon M. Schwern, Esq.). I won't say the things that I've heard whispered about my reputation. -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
RE: Perl is someone else's bitch
Didn't anyone warn you that being on this list means they already have no reputation ;-) Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of the hatter Sent: 07 November 2002 16:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Perl is someone else's bitch On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, David H. Adler wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:01:45AM +, Lusercop wrote: > > > > Though I did like your reply, especially "the lovely David Adler esq.". > > Great, first it turns up in a damian talk, now it's advertising... :-) Did no one warn you that hanging around with us lot could ruin your reputation ? the hatter
RE: [JOB] I Need One
It's strange, really, isn't it! I'm not exactly well known, or better than anyone else. I assumed there must have been a huge deficit in perl programmers, but looking at this thread - I can't really believe that! Added to that - I'm still young, and relatively in-experienced. I've had the fortune to work on some fairly large projects, and I guess that's what the attraction was. I also find that I get offers from current clients of our company. Network Resources was one of those ( or their sister company - I-stream ) - and pretty much the only one I can name, because they're in a different country, and now merged - so I don't have to worry about confidentiality so much. I think that experienced Mason users must be fairly rare, but then again - I can't see many jobs asking for exactly that! Gareth Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Peter Haworth Sent: 07 November 2002 11:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JOB] I Need One On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:47:53 -, Gareth Kirwan wrote: > Is there anyone that IS happy with their job :p I am. > Without trying to rub it in anyone's faces - don't you find it ironic how, > when you have a job, you get offers left right and center? I have never ever been offered a job without having first applied for it. This doesn't really matter, as I'm happy where I am. Maybe I need to write more exciting CPAN modules, or campaign to get my name put on the website I spend all my time developing at work? -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... You're in a maze of twisty little Java VMs, all different
RE: [JOB] I Need One
Is there anyone that IS happy with their job :p Without trying to rub it in anyone's faces - don't you find it ironic how, when you have a job, you get offers left right and center? I've had a few offers come through in the past without looking for them. However I'm happy as I am here. If I get any more offers for perl / Mason programmers - I'll post them here - so everyone else can have a shot at them. Gareth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:london.pm-admin@;london.pm.org]On Behalf Of Paul Makepeace Sent: 07 November 2002 05:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JOB] I Need One On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:45:52PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: > I was actually thinking of the people who you have to make peace with to > *work* elsewhere, rather than just visit. You don't wanna do that you don't... unless you have enormous sums of cash. At least to get an H1-B which is quite some substantial number of golf course subscriptions. I mean, lawyer fees. > > And why would you want to work here? I thought jobs were an equally endangered > > species both sides of the Atlantic. Nah, many more jobs in the UK, far as I can tell. P -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ "What is my deal? A BILLION times that!" -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
