My review of LPW 2008
Hello all! First of all, let me introduce myself since it's the first time I post in this mailing list. ;-) I'm Michele Beltrame (lordarthas), the tzar of Nordest.pm (Italy) and the interim tzar of Italia.pm as well. I wanted to say thank you to everyone who helped the organization of this year's London Perl Workshop, it was such a great event! This is my review of the workshop, if you're interested in reading it: http://www.cattlegrid.info/blog/2008/12/london-perl-workshop-2008---a.html Thanks, Michele. -- Michele Beltrame http://www.cattlegrid.info/ ICQ 76660101 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl is dead
Hi Stefano! > Ok for Perl as a language, but the point gains sense if Perl is considered > as a technology. For example, I think PHP gained momentum for the > simplicity of the installing procedures of products based on it. I think this simplicity of those installations derives from the fact that providers are easily able to build a php/mod_php which includes the most used things (mail functions, database access, image processing) directly into the php binary. PHP programmers only need to upload their .php files via FTP and they just work. No modules to install, it's all already there. Also, mod_php provides a "semi-persistent" environment where at least the interpreter and the modules are already loaded, provided an interesting performance gain over plain CGI. mod_perl and mod_fastcgi don't really provide such functionality in the sense that also the application is persistent, which is not a desirable thing for little, seldomly hit, pages, or in a shared hosting environment; moreover, they're harder to work with by the "casual" web programmer. Should we go as far as creating a "mod_lightperl" alike to mod_php, which makes the interpreter stay resident and and bundles the commonly used web-related modules? Used together with something like HTML::Mason this could actually become something really akin to PHP, with the only difference that one writes its code in Perl. And then Dreamweaver users could use Perl as easily as PHP; but, at this point, more than Perl it would be "a web development system where you enter some Perl inside your web pages". Is this the application we want now? I'm unsure (for real). Michele. -- Michele Beltrame http://www.cattlegrid.info/ ICQ 76660101 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl is dead
Hi breno! > Like embperl? > http://perl.apache.org/embperl/ Yes, exactly like this, plus the smoothing of some of the edges. Along with the bundles you were talking about (CPAN-Standard, ...) this could provide the fast way to setup an Apache-based environment where user can just "upload they're pages with some Perl within and go" (like they do with PHP). This solutions might attract web designers, newbie programmers: a whole segment that Perl completely failed to attract since PHP rise in 1997 or so. Eventually some of those programmers will need to create bigger applications, so switch to Catalyst or so, but they would tend to stay in the Perl world as they *already know Perl* (and they like it, hopefully :-)). What do we need to get to this, proper marketing (as usual)? On the other hand, pushing this solution will lead to a lot of projects with fucked up code and security problems because it was developed by folks who don't actually know how to properly do that - exactly like it happens for PHP. But that's how it goes, I guess. :-) Michele. -- Michele Beltrame http://www.cattlegrid.info/ ICQ 76660101 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: North West England Perl Mongers - Manchester Technical meeting 5th May
Hi Hakim! > Functional Pe(a)rls v2 (now with Monads!) > osfameron > (NB: this is an updated version of my LPW talk, with more on Currying > and sections) Ahh, improved. I wonder how you'll make that fit in 20 minutes. ;) Michele. -- Michele Beltrame http://www.italpro.net/ SkyPe: arthas77
Re: Bulk domain registrar recommendations
Hello! I've been using Joker as well and it's great (and inexpensive as well). I would definitely recommend them. > Except that if you want to transfer a domain to them, you have to > *fax* paperwork to them. Not really, that was happening maybe 10 years ago. I'm trasferring domains for my customers to Joker almost every week, and I never sent a FAX after 2000 or so. Cheers, Michele. -- Michele Beltrame http://www.italpro.net/ - m...@italpro.net Skype: arthas77 - Twitter: _arthas
Italian Perl Workshop 2012 newsletter #2 - Talks, Per Course, Events, Sponsors
Hello all! A bit off topic, but I hope some of you could be interested in coming to IPW in Bologna in about one month. We'll also be holding a Drinkers.pm late night meeting there... :-) So here we are with the second Italian Perl Workshop 2012 newsletter. The conference will happen on October 11th and 12th in Bologna, at the CNR Research Area. The workshop will feature talks both in Italian and English language. http://www.perl.it/workshop/ * TALKS We're happy to announce some of the already confirmed talks. - Data::Query - cutting edge SQL query generation with Perl - Web::Simple - micro web framework - Cassandra - writing a Cassandra client in Perl - uWSGI and PSGI - the technology which powers a lot of cloud services - Perl 6 - writing regular expressions in Perl 6 - Slic3r - Perl and 3D printing - Modern Perl... in italian - presentation of the Italian translation of chromatic's Modern Perl book - First steps with GCL * CALL FOR PAPERS -> SUBMIT A TALK! The Call for Papers is still open and IPW needs you: submit you talks!!! This year's conference theme is Perl Jubilee, to celebrate 25 years of the language. The theme is however loose, and talks not related to it are well accepted (and we'd also like to accept a few of not so "perlish" ones). Please submit your proposals here: http://act.yapc.eu/ipw2012/cfp.html * PERL COURSE (ITALIAN LANGUAGE) A basic Perl Course will be help on October 1th, 2012, the day before the workshop. The course will be in Italian language and run by Stefano Rodighiero, author of the Pocket Perl book. The course is free, just subscribe here: http://act.yapc.eu/ipw2012/purchase * SOCIAL EVENTS We're organizing a few events related to the workshop. If you are interested (and you should!), click on the appropriate links to see the details. - Pre-workshop meeting: the not-to-be-missed social event. Link: http://act.yapc.eu/ipw2012/wiki?node=PreConferenceMeeting - Attendees dinner: on the evening of Thursday 11 October we'll hold the traditional IPW attendees dinner. Link: http://act.yapc.eu/ipw2012/wiki?node=SocialDinner - Training run: it's also important to be in good health, so there will be a run in Bologna parks and hills. Link: http://act.yapc.eu/ipw2012/wiki?node=Running - Drinkers.pm late night pub crawl: going from pub to pub in the Bologna students area until we can hold no more; the pub crawl will happen after the attendees dinner. Link: http://act.yapc.eu/ipw2012/wiki?node=DrinkersPmMeeting * OUR SPONSORS A big thank you to our sponsors: without them IPW would be impossible to organize. Our sponsors are: Booking.Com, Seeweb, musixmatch, Netlogica, Italpro, Geoesse, Leader.It, O’Reilly Media, No Starch Press, Pragmatic Bookshelf. * ...AND WHILE WE WAIT... The Parma GNU/Linux User Group organizes, on September 15th (at 3pm) the "Aperitivo con il Bosone di Higgs". Information (in Italian language) is available here: http://www.parma.linux.it/news/2012/09/aperitivo-con-il-bosone-di-higgs IPW is you chance to visit Bologna! IPW web site: http://www.perl.it/workshop/
Re: Perl outreach
Hello! Yes, LPW was great, but where, outside our fishbowl, is perl showing what it can do and how easily it can do it? I 100% agree. It's however easy enough to "infiltrate" at more generic conferences and show something about Perl. I do it every year at an Open Source Day in Italy, which has an attendance mostly made of IT university students (300 or so), and it's always a good success: people like what they see, and they come and ask me questions. Sadly I haven't been able to speak this year, because the event was scheduled the same day of London Perl Workshop: I was invited though, which maybe means that also the organizers liked the Perl talks enough to ask for more. We should maybe look for more of these events and come out with topics interesting enough to make the attendees think "oh, that's cool, let me have a better look at Perl". Cheers, Michele. -- Michele Beltrame http://www.italpro.net/ - m...@italpro.net Skype: arthas77 - Twitter: _arthas
Re: Kindle Fire
I have the Kindle Fire HD and I like it. As any other tablet it is however mostly useless for reading novels: you'll want the Kindle or another e-ink device for that. I'm unsure about this, but maybe the KF has an HDMI output port which the Nexus 7 doesn't have. That thing is quite useful, if you watch movies and want to see them on a big TV instead of a small tablet of course. Cheers, Michele.
