Re: *.perl.org facelift
2008/12/9 Léon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Great start. Has anyone downloaded slash, the software that use.perl.org runs? Is its templating system flexible? slash's CVS contains the use.perl.org theme: http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/slashcode/ ... which would make it even easier for people to tweak. Any volunteers? Léon
Re: *.perl.org facelift
Léon Brocard wrote: http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/slashcode/ ... which would make it even easier for people to tweak. Any volunteers? I'll gladly take it on, but I haven't heard anything back from pudge to suggest that he's open to the idea. A
Re: *.perl.org facelift
2008/12/5 Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. Great start. Has anyone downloaded slashcode, the software that use.perl.org runs? Is its templating system flexible? Leon
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On Tue 9.Dec'08 at 16:25:48 +, Léon Brocard wrote: 2008/12/5 Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. Great start. Has anyone downloaded slashcode, the software that use.perl.org runs? Is its templating system flexible? I'm not sure how easy Andy will find their templating system. It's this thing called Template Toolkit. Leon -- pgpc3ZqqwtUmR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On 8 Dec 2008, at 07:17, Nigel Hamilton wrote: This looks brilliant. A lot of Perl sites certainly could do with a face lift. I think it'd go a long way towards making Perl look more alive :) I especially like the Onion logo - Perl's official trademark never looked better. ;-) seconded, the spherical logo is great, Greg
Re: *.perl.org facelift
- Original Message From: Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. Out of curiosity, have you spoken with pudge about this? He hasn't seemed interested, but I could be wrong. Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6
Re: *.perl.org facelift
This looks brilliant. A lot of Perl sites certainly could do with a face lift. I think it'd go a long way towards making Perl look more alive :) I especially like the Onion logo - Perl's official trademark never looked better. ;-) Nige
Re: *.perl.org facelift
Ovid wrote: Out of curiosity, have you spoken with pudge about this? He hasn't seemed interested, but I could be wrong. I've (just) pinged him a heads-up in case he hasn't seen it, but his other comments in the thread seem to suggest that it's not his highest priority right now. But that's cool. It was really only supposed to be a bit of tentative dabbling to see where inspiration might strike. A couple of people have already expressed an interest in dabbling with it further so it might go somewhere yet. I was also mindful of Andy's comment: However, I'd strongly suggest that you come up with actual prototypes of what you want to change to BEFORE contacting them. Lord knows they've had enough people bluster in and say I want to change perl.org's front page! with no results. With that in mind, I thought it better to sketch out some ideas first before putting my head above the parapet. I suspect that it'll end up being a bikeshed-painting project, but we live in hope. A
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On Dec 5, 2008, at 20:09 , Andy Wardley wrote: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. Well for one I think it's a clear improvement over what's there today. On the downside I would say: a) you probably didn't intend this but it looks a little bit too much like the default Drupal theme, and b) it has a lot of round stuff in it, and I think that's going to look dated next week. I think it's a good start though. Would you mind sharing the graphics' sources (whatever format they're in) so that other people could hack on it without starting from scratch? -- Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ Feel like hiring me? Go to http://robineko.com/
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a good start though. Would you mind sharing the graphics' sources (whatever format they're in) so that other people could hack on it without starting from scratch? The link is in his test post: http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/sketch2-slice.psd Cheers, -b
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On 5 Dec 2008, at 19:09, Andy Wardley wrote: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html It's got the reassuring Web 2.0 pastel colours and curved corners which are a distinct improvement on the beard-and-sandals of the old site, but the body text is too low-contrast for my liking. Overall, I approve.
Re: *.perl.org facelift
Robin Berjon wrote: Well for one I think it's a clear improvement over what's there today. On the downside I would say: a) you probably didn't intend this but it looks a little bit too much like the default Drupal theme, No, I didn't intend it, but I noticed the similarity straight away. It's that damn onion that looks like the drupal teardrop thingy. Shame, 'cos I quite like the onion. The colours are all easily changeable, though (they're color/gradient overlays on separate layers). b) it has a lot of round stuff in it, and I think that's going to look dated next week. Yep, agreed. I started off from some templates I had from a previous project from a few years ago when roundy-roundy was all the rage. But it ended up looking a bit too Fischer-Price. I think it's a good start though. Thanks. It's the first layer of undercoat on the bike shed. :-) A
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. I am hardly qualified to criticize, I think the initial impact looks good, but I discussed with a few people and a few functional questions/criticisms arose. == What's with the minimise icons in all the corners? == What purpose do you plan to use them for? In the given context, they appeared to some to be useless elements, who wants to minimise blog comments? I argued you could be using them as hooks for extra menu data, but I couldn't think of any valid menus that would be relevant to the elements you have them on. == Boxes In Boxes == To my eye, there appears to be a little bit of style overkill, surplus non-functional visual divisions. I've never been a big fan of the 'fat' borders, always trended towards minimalism. Its just some of it still feels a little cluttered, but I can't quantify why I get that feeling. == High Complexity == The menu bar is one of those things that often irks me, of course, entirely subjective, but I thought I'd give my 2¢ FAQ | About | Submit Story | Older Stories | Topics | Polls | Journals | Authors | New Modules | Preferences | Logout Is an awful lot of dissimilar items globbed together in a seemingly random order. User-Oriented Things, should Imo, be clustered together seperately. Submit Story | Preferences | Logout Content Related things, should likewise, be clustered together, ( and be more prominent ) Older Stories | New Modules | Topics | Polls | Journals Site Meta-Info, which is low traffic, should likewise be clustered together in a less prominent place. ( But still easy to find ) FAQ | About | Authors -- Kent perl -e print substr( \edrgmaM SPA [EMAIL PROTECTED], \$_ * 3, 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 ); http://kent-fredric.fox.geek.nz
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On 5 Dec 2008, at 14:09, Andy Wardley wrote: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. Pass it on. Very good. I like. -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten
*.perl.org facelift
I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. Pass it on. A
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. It has a nice modern ring to it, I like it! Where do you plan on putting the page ads? Or the Perl quotes? I haven't seen them... (Sorry I can't help more, layout design is really not my thing) Cheers, -b
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On Friday 05 Dec 2008, Andy Wardley wrote: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. I like it because it's blue (my favourite colour) the semi-transparent look is very modern and neat. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. -- John Maynard Keynes
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On Friday 05 Dec 2008, breno wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put a few ideas together for a *.perl.org facelift. http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html At the moment it's just a stick in the ground. It's probably the wrong kind of stick and not in the right place, but it's a start. It has a nice modern ring to it, I like it! Where do you plan on putting the page ads? Or the Perl quotes? I haven't seen them... (Sorry I can't help more, layout design is really not my thing) It's sad but he has a point, the AdBlock tool has to block something... -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK When a Microsoft product is the lesser of two evils, you know for sure that there's something fishy going on. -- anon
Re: *.perl.org facelift
On 5 Dec 2008, at 19:09, Andy Wardley wrote (I paraphrase): My facelifted *.perl.org: Let me show you it http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html Hey! It's... the same, but blue. Highly recommend http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/ (and Tufte's books) for design inspiration. There's way too much non-data ink in both conventional slashcode AW's facelifted slashcode, IMHO, but I realise I could be expanding the design brief spectacularly by saying awkward things like that, if you were hoping for a short, decisive design tweak. Disclaimer: I'm not a graphic designer. ti'
