Re: CFT club
On 25 Feb 2002, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Ok, folks, try: > > http://www.speedbeaver.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cft > > And some of you signing up I _know_ don't have CFT so be prepared to > be thrown off at some point... Then surely they'll have the CFT available to sign up all over? :)
Re: CFT club
Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.speedbeaver.com/mailman/listinfo/cft> Ok, folks, try: http://www.speedbeaver.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cft And some of you signing up I _know_ don't have CFT so be prepared to be thrown off at some point... -- Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire http://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Starhttp://www.thehighwaystar.com Interim Technical Director, Web Architecture Consultant for hire
Re: CFT club
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Robert Shiels wrote: > especially of emails to company email addresses, which are > possibly archived by the company, though this may even be illegal. Or possibly not archiving them is illegal. Or possibly both. Or neither. Depending on who you're talking to. You are in a twisty maze of bureaucrats, all different. the hatter
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From: "David Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ANYTHING you say online is archived by someone somewhere. Assume that it > will be repeated somewhere sometime. > Good advice that I've also been following for years. I'm even suspicious of private emails (though I think maybe you mean those too in your ANYTHING above), and especially of emails to company email addresses, which are possibly archived by the company, though this may even be illegal. /Robert
Re: CFT club
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 12:00:33PM +, David Cantrell wrote: > ANYTHING you say online is archived by someone somewhere. Assume that it > will be repeated somewhere sometime. Exactly. And thanks for clarifying the tech, dave! :) -- Natalie Ford .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CFT club
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 10:42:39AM +, Natalie Ford wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 08:48:22AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > > Hmm...I'm looking at perhaps sharing stuff that you might not want in > > a public archive... > > We have had this discussion before. I can't find it in the archive > with a quick look, but we have. Any mailing list is likely to get > archived, even if the list administrator does not archive it, by a > public list archiving robot Only if you allow the robot to subscribe. > (I can't remember the details and tech > involved - someone else might be able to elaborate). So, if you don't > want stuff archived publicly, don't use a mailing list. Some of these > web archive robots ignore the noarchive header, apparently... X-No-Archive is advisory only. There is no obligation on an archive to obey it. I certainly don't, and my mailiung list archives are on the web. I protect them with HTTP basic auth, but it would be foolish to assume that they will always be kept private. All it requires is for someone to break the authentication, or for me to accidentally break it, or for one of the people who have the password to share it, or someone to steal the disk it's on, or ... ANYTHING you say online is archived by someone somewhere. Assume that it will be repeated somewhere sometime. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
Re: CFT club
I've updated the DNS, and/or Cc: to speedbeaver.org.uk Sorry :(
Re: CFT club
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 08:48:22AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Hmm...I'm looking at perhaps sharing stuff that you might not want in > a public archive... We have had this discussion before. I can't find it in the archive with a quick look, but we have. Any mailing list is likely to get archived, even if the list administrator does not archive it, by a public list archiving robot (I can't remember the details and tech involved - someone else might be able to elaborate). So, if you don't want stuff archived publicly, don't use a mailing list. Some of these web archive robots ignore the noarchive header, apparently... -- Natalie Ford .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CFT club
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 09:47:17AM +, Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > http://www.speedbeaver.com/mailman/listinfo/cft> You might wanna take a closer look at that. My confirmation email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced back. Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay
Re: CFT club
Nic Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 08:51:52AM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > > From: "Dave Cross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 09:32:18PM +, Dave Hodgkinson > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Are there many CFT people still out there? > > > > Care to be on a side list talking about - CVs, contracts, personal > > > > development, brainbench, pimps, worthwhile group projects and other > > > > cft related stuff? > > I'd be up for that. http://www.speedbeaver.com/mailman/listinfo/cft> -- Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire http://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Starhttp://www.thehighwaystar.com Interim Technical Director, Web Architecture Consultant for hire
Re: CFT club
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 08:51:52AM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > From: "Dave Cross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 09:32:18PM +, Dave Hodgkinson > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Are there many CFT people still out there? > > > Care to be on a side list talking about - CVs, contracts, personal > > > development, brainbench, pimps, worthwhile group projects and other > > > cft related stuff? I'd be up for that. > > I'd be interested in that. > > Me too. I've been off for 6 months now (4 of those were voluntary though, so > it's really only 2 months of job searching). That's almost where I am (the last four weeks haven't been full of job searching due to various personal crap that always seems to happen but...). I finished a contract on October 31st. Still looking :( > > I hate this whole process, and am so annoyed doing it that I'm now applying > for permanent jobs too. I do SAP technical work, not perl, so I guess it's > of topic, but I think the problems I'm having are exactly the same - phantom > jobs, agents who don't call back, plumetting rates... Well, I do perl and various other things like MS SQL (so sue me, I think it's the only truly good software product they make). I've had serious agent issues over the last 9 weeks of so. nic --
Re: CFT club
From: "Dave Cross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 09:32:18PM +, Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Are there many CFT people still out there? > > Care to be on a side list talking about - CVs, contracts, personal > > development, brainbench, pimps, worthwhile group projects and other > > cft related stuff? > I'd be interested in that. Me too. I've been off for 6 months now (4 of those were voluntary though, so it's really only 2 months of job searching). I hate this whole process, and am so annoyed doing it that I'm now applying for permanent jobs too. I do SAP technical work, not perl, so I guess it's of topic, but I think the problems I'm having are exactly the same - phantom jobs, agents who don't call back, plumetting rates... /Robert
Re: CFT club
Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 09:32:18PM +, Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote: > > > > Are there many CFT people still out there? > > > > Care to be on a side list talking about - CVs, contracts, personal > > development, brainbench, pimps, worthwhile group projects and other > > cft related stuff? > > I'd be interested in that. > > But would all that stuff be really off-topic on this list? Do we need > another list? Hmm...I'm looking at perhaps sharing stuff that you might not want in a public archive... -- Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire http://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Starhttp://www.thehighwaystar.com Interim Technical Director, Web Architecture Consultant for hire
Re: CFT club
On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 09:32:18PM +, Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Are there many CFT people still out there? > > Care to be on a side list talking about - CVs, contracts, personal > development, brainbench, pimps, worthwhile group projects and other > cft related stuff? I'd be interested in that. But would all that stuff be really off-topic on this list? Do we need another list? Dave... -- .sig missing...
CFT club
Are there many CFT people still out there? Care to be on a side list talking about - CVs, contracts, personal development, brainbench, pimps, worthwhile group projects and other cft related stuff?
