Many of the people on this list are interested in Open Source software (well duh!) and may develop with it, or use it with customers. There is a brand new mailing list set up to discuss commercial aspects of supporting Apache Software Foundation's open source products. You can find out more here https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/krysalis-jakarta-adv I highly recommend joining the list and contributing. It is mostly geared up for the java based projects, but I don't see why you shouldn't talk about mod_perl or the Apache web server too. PS I haven't seen a London.pm digest for a few days. Have you all gone quiet? Alex Mclintock