RE: Domain acquisition
| On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 08:52 -0800, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: | But what is the etiquette in these situations? I'd rather not reveal | to them | to what extent my friend is interested in the domains. To hide that I | have | to go through aliases or proxies. Which feels just a bit sordid, | somehow... | | 1) Offer more money. No reason to reveal who the real buyer is or what | the domain is for. | | 2) Consider if the recipient is actually getting your message (assuming | they're not responding). There was an unused domain we wanted where we | offered $1000 (or something like that) but never got a response. Some | time later the domain expired and we could get it for $70 or some such | from the registrar that controlled the almost-deleted domain. | | | There is also the possibility that they know that replying to any | expressions of interest at all may result in the an increased risk of | the domain being snatched through whatever systems the registry has in | place to deal with abusive registrations (a process that can be and is | abused to steal domain registrations). Hm. But that really only holds for domains you're actually using, or have plans for, right? Can I actually find out which other domains the proprietors hold? A reverse whois, so to say. As to the money question - I hadn't offered any yet. These appear to be prime properties: 4-letter words, pronounceable and recognizable, and yet not currently used. I'm not sure of the going rates, and I wouldn't want to hazard my chances by over- or underbidding. We assume we'll be paying through the nose, though.
Re: Domain acquisition
Jurgen Pletinckx wrote: Hm. But that really only holds for domains you're actually using, or have plans for, right? Can I actually find out which other domains the proprietors hold? A reverse whois, so to say. There are some services which can do this - they do it by downloading the .com zone every day and linking back to the nameservers. Doesn't always work (e.g. when using godaddy's or some other public DNS servers). I might have an account on such a service if you need help. Matt. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
Re: Domain acquisition
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM, the hatter london...@bang.meep.org wrote: Try dnsaleprice.com - it keeps track of auction prices. For instance, 4 letter, 1-word .co.uk's sold in the last year shows 20 words or almost-words, with decent words from $900-13 and some other 4-letters from $80-900. Sedo's search tools let you do similar, a 4 or less seatch on there shows fixed-price domains available to buy, and also what others are up at auction. It should at least put some hard boundaries on your pricing even if it still leaves a wide margin. There is a danger with some of the domain auction sites though [1][2]; If they see a rise in queries of dead-but-registered domains, they will assume that there is interest to buy these, and will speculatively 'bid' on them themselves, in order to jack the price up and then resell it onto you, pocketing the extra. Mark. [1] Not that I'm saying this one is such, I've never had any dealing with them, so can't make a specific comment on them. [2] Some of the more unscrupulous registrars are suspected of doing similar, based on quantity and origin of whois queries.
Domain acquisition
Dear lazyweb, If I want to acquire some domain names for, say, a friend of mine, I would obviously find out who the current tenants are, and proceed to send them a quick note to open conversation. To which they have yet to respond. Hypothetically, of course. As the tenants do not appear to be using the domains themselves, one is inclined to think they're squatting, and shouldn't be averse to selling the properties. But what is the etiquette in these situations? I'd rather not reveal to them to what extent my friend is interested in the domains. To hide that I have to go through aliases or proxies. Which feels just a bit sordid, somehow... -- Jurgen Pletinckx Asking the wrong questions for over 4 decades
Re: Domain acquisition
On Dec 14, 2009, at 4:09, Jurgen Pletinckx wrote: But what is the etiquette in these situations? I'd rather not reveal to them to what extent my friend is interested in the domains. To hide that I have to go through aliases or proxies. Which feels just a bit sordid, somehow... 1) Offer more money. No reason to reveal who the real buyer is or what the domain is for. 2) Consider if the recipient is actually getting your message (assuming they're not responding). There was an unused domain we wanted where we offered $1000 (or something like that) but never got a response. Some time later the domain expired and we could get it for $70 or some such from the registrar that controlled the almost-deleted domain. - ask
Re: Domain acquisition
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 08:52 -0800, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: But what is the etiquette in these situations? I'd rather not reveal to them to what extent my friend is interested in the domains. To hide that I have to go through aliases or proxies. Which feels just a bit sordid, somehow... 1) Offer more money. No reason to reveal who the real buyer is or what the domain is for. 2) Consider if the recipient is actually getting your message (assuming they're not responding). There was an unused domain we wanted where we offered $1000 (or something like that) but never got a response. Some time later the domain expired and we could get it for $70 or some such from the registrar that controlled the almost-deleted domain. There is also the possibility that they know that replying to any expressions of interest at all may result in the an increased risk of the domain being snatched through whatever systems the registry has in place to deal with abusive registrations (a process that can be and is abused to steal domain registrations). I occasionally receive emails asking about one of my domains and I never reply to them in any way whatsoever. I do, however, renew them to keep them.
