Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
Do we have to choose? You could give two talks, you know? :) Or better still - a slightly longer talk covering both. Andrew On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Andrew Beverley a...@andybev.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 14:21 +, Tom Hukins wrote: There's only one part that worries me: Is there any chance you'll give a presentation at the next LPW? Possibly, but I don't feel I've got to that level yet! Ah, peer pressure ;-) Hmmm. Anybody interested in either of these? 1. 5 things I wish I'd known as a Perl beginner. 2. From user requirement to open source project: the birth of a CPAN module. Andy
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
Be careful of yaks. I went to write some blogging software and I've made 10 modules releasable since, but still no blog. James Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. 2. From user requirement to open source project: the birth of a CPAN module. Andy
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
On 25 June 2014 23:41, Andrew Beverley a...@andybev.com wrote: Ah, peer pressure ;-) Hmmm. Anybody interested in either of these? 1. 5 things I wish I'd known as a Perl beginner. I think this one would make a good first talk at our next tech meet. It could be very low stress with a minimum of preparation time. 5 slides, a bit of chat about each one, and optionally interacting with the rabble a bit on each point. :-) 2. From user requirement to open source project: the birth of a CPAN module.
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 07:30 +0100, james.la...@gmail.com wrote: Be careful of yaks. I went to write some blogging software and I've made 10 modules releasable since, but still no blog. Well yes, it's not /actually/ on CPAN yet. I was thinking I could talk about the Email::Signature module I asked about on here a while ago: https://github.com/ctrlo/libemail-signature-perl The story is that I created it as a result of a user requirement of a company I'm doing some work for: because I've released it as open source, the company is not tied-into some bespoke proprietary software. But I don't need to explain the beauty of open-source software to you lot as you already know, which is why I wasn't sure whether it's an appropriate talk for LPW... Andy
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 08:56 +0100, Sue Spence wrote: 1. 5 things I wish I'd known as a Perl beginner. I think this one would make a good first talk at our next tech meet. It could be very low stress with a minimum of preparation time. 5 slides, a bit of chat about each one, and optionally interacting with the rabble a bit on each point. :-) Happy with that, but I was actually thinking I could talk about 2 projects I've been working on recently: 1. The Email::Signature thing as per previous email. 2. Some web-based software I've written recently that makes managing tabulated data easy. A bit like a spreadsheet, but with version-control on each item of data, and better input validation/selection. It also does basic graphs. It's aimed as a replacement for all those situations where people use a spreadsheet to record basic lists of data. Andy
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
You spreadsheet-y software sounds interesting. I hope I'll get to hear you talk about this one. With vim-like keybindings perhaps? ;-) -- Pierre Masci On 26 June 2014 09:25, Andrew Beverley a...@andybev.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 08:56 +0100, Sue Spence wrote: 1. 5 things I wish I'd known as a Perl beginner. I think this one would make a good first talk at our next tech meet. It could be very low stress with a minimum of preparation time. 5 slides, a bit of chat about each one, and optionally interacting with the rabble a bit on each point. :-) Happy with that, but I was actually thinking I could talk about 2 projects I've been working on recently: 1. The Email::Signature thing as per previous email. 2. Some web-based software I've written recently that makes managing tabulated data easy. A bit like a spreadsheet, but with version-control on each item of data, and better input validation/selection. It also does basic graphs. It's aimed as a replacement for all those situations where people use a spreadsheet to record basic lists of data. Andy
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 10:36 +0100, mascip wrote: You spreadsheet-y software sounds interesting. I hope I'll get to hear you talk about this one. It's pretty basic, but more than happy to talk about it sometime. With vim-like keybindings perhaps? ;-) I'm afraid my target audience wouldn't even know what vim is, but more than happy to accept patches ;-)
Interview - a Dancer in London:)
Just so you know where Andy's coming from... http://blog.geekuni.com/2014/06/why-learn-perl-interview-2-andy.html
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:53:05PM +0100, Andrew Solomon wrote: Just so you know where Andy's coming from... http://blog.geekuni.com/2014/06/why-learn-perl-interview-2-andy.html Thank you both for an interesting interview. There's only one part that worries me: Is there any chance you'll give a presentation at the next LPW? Possibly, but I don't feel I've got to that level yet! As Sue suggested yesterday in her request for technical talks, the most interesting technical meetings cover a range of topics from a variety of speakers. It's interesting to hear Perl experts talk about the advanced details of how Perl works, but it's dull to only hear about this. It's always nerve wracking to give a talk, but most of us have interesting stories of our experience with Perl that would make a good 5 minute talk to get people thinking. I encourage you to offer those talks. Meeting organisers will always help you plan your talk if asked, and social meetings are a good opportunity to bounce around ideas. Tom
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
Tom Hukins writes: There's only one part that worries me: Is there any chance you'll give a presentation at the next LPW? Possibly, but I don't feel I've got to that level yet! ... the most interesting technical meetings cover a range of topics from a variety of speakers. ... I encourage you to offer those talks. I wholeheartedly agree with Tom: you can give a good talk at any level. If you're wondering who would be interested in a talk you could give, how about ‘you, a year ago’? Well there's a good chance that there are others who are now in the position you were a year ago. So whatever you've learnt in the past year or so would likely make a good talk for somebody. That's true even if you've been doing things at a basic level, or mostly seem to've picked up a bunch of experience in how not to do something. Smylers -- Girls don't wear their shoes out, and boys don't care about style? Clarks think so: http://j.mp/clarksgirlboyposters Disagree? Don't want shops promoting gender stereotypes to children? Please sign the petition: http://j.mp/clarksgirlboypetition
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
On 25 June 2014 16:21, Tom Hukins t...@eborcom.com wrote: It's interesting to hear Perl experts talk about the advanced details of how Perl works, but it's dull to only hear about this. My experience of Perl events is that while these talks can often be dry, dull and focussed on what may appear to the layman as minutiae, this mirrors to a degree that slice of the Perl community who will give up their weekend time for a workshop/conference. I have spoken at and attended such events myself so I hope the dry and dull gloss, while subjective, is considered an informed opinion. I applaud any initiative to widen the scope and appeal of these sessions and very much hope that encouraging people who've been involved for less time to speak will encourage the dissemination of a more accessible style of talk, and in turn perhaps revitalise what seems to be a very inward-facing community of comparatively old men. I'm not going to hold my breath (and I really am unsure that insular groups like Perl Mongers are helping anyway) but if this happened it would be lovely to see. /joel
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
I'd be happy to speak nonsense if it has value. ^_^ There is a risk it might only have comic value though. - Original Message - From: Joel Bernstein j...@fysh.org To: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers london.pm@london.pm.org Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:) On 25 June 2014 16:21, Tom Hukins t...@eborcom.com wrote: It's interesting to hear Perl experts talk about the advanced details of how Perl works, but it's dull to only hear about this. My experience of Perl events is that while these talks can often be dry, dull and focussed on what may appear to the layman as minutiae, this mirrors to a degree that slice of the Perl community who will give up their weekend time for a workshop/conference. I have spoken at and attended such events myself so I hope the dry and dull gloss, while subjective, is considered an informed opinion. I applaud any initiative to widen the scope and appeal of these sessions and very much hope that encouraging people who've been involved for less time to speak will encourage the dissemination of a more accessible style of talk, and in turn perhaps revitalise what seems to be a very inward-facing community of comparatively old men. I'm not going to hold my breath (and I really am unsure that insular groups like Perl Mongers are helping anyway) but if this happened it would be lovely to see. /joel
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
On 25 June 2014 16:45, Joel Bernstein j...@fysh.org wrote: On 25 June 2014 16:21, Tom Hukins t...@eborcom.com wrote: It's INTERESTING to hear Perl experts talk about the advanced details of how Perl works, but it's dull TO ONLY hear about this. My experience of Perl events is that while these talks can often be dry, dull and [...] Tom definitely didn't say that any talks were dull. I applaud any initiative to widen the scope and appeal of these sessions Thank you. That's what we are hoping to accomplish, though not because we think that previous tech meetings have been deficient. These events are put on by volunteers and even attendees give up their own time to come along and participate. I hope we will all get back more than what we put into it, but time will tell.
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
There is a risk it might only have comic value though. Comic is good =) It help the brain wake up and focus.
Re: Interview - a Dancer in London:)
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 14:21 +, Tom Hukins wrote: There's only one part that worries me: Is there any chance you'll give a presentation at the next LPW? Possibly, but I don't feel I've got to that level yet! Ah, peer pressure ;-) Hmmm. Anybody interested in either of these? 1. 5 things I wish I'd known as a Perl beginner. 2. From user requirement to open source project: the birth of a CPAN module. Andy
