Re: London.pm Server for Mailing List and Web Site

2013-02-14 Thread Peter Corlett
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:44:08AM +, Tom Hukins wrote:
[...]
 The server running this jail is very old, so Exonetric have also provided us
 with a much newer FreeBSD 8 jail that various people have done some work on
 migrating us to.

I suspect that the lack of volunteers is that there aren't many people with
experience with that particular platform, and this isn't overlapping with the
set of people willing to spend CFT on maintaining the server. Were it running
Debian, say, you'd no doubt have plenty of volunteers, myself included.

Perhaps you might want to consider following up on those offers of alternative
hosting? :)

(Heck, a whole dedicated low-end server at Hetzner is under £250/year and could
be easily lost in my hosting bills.)



Re: London.pm Server for Mailing List and Web Site

2013-02-14 Thread Tom Hukins
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 01:41:30PM +, Peter Corlett wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:44:08AM +, Tom Hukins wrote:
  The server running this jail is very old, so Exonetric have also
  provided us with a much newer FreeBSD 8 jail that various people
  have done some work on migrating us to.
 
 I suspect that the lack of volunteers is that there aren't many
 people with experience with that particular platform ...  Were it
 running Debian, say, you'd no doubt have plenty of volunteers,
 myself included.

Yes, I agree.  One person has offered to help with the migration
off-list, but I appreciate the advantage of using a platform that more
of us prefer.

 Perhaps you might want to consider following up on those offers of
 alternative hosting? :)

However, yours is the first alternative offer I remember receiving.
Thank you.

 (Heck, a whole dedicated low-end server at Hetzner is under
 £250/year and could be easily lost in my hosting bills.)

In my opinion, the main advantage of using Exonetric is that they
don't charge us and at least two of their staff are London Perl
Mongers.  I don't worry about the price of a low end server, but
remembering to pay would create a recurring task that we musn't
neglect.

Again, thank you for your offer.  I'll get in touch off-list.

Tom


Re: London.pm Server for Mailing List and Web Site

2013-02-13 Thread Lyle

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Lyle

On 12/02/2013 08:44, Tom Hukins wrote:

Hi all,

London.pm runs its mailing lists, Web site and IRC bot from a FreeBSD
jail called windmill kindly hosted by Exonetric.

The server running this jail is very old, so Exonetric have also
provided us with a much newer FreeBSD 8 jail that various people have
done some work on migrating us to.

However, as far as I can tell work on this has stalled.  I want to put
my energy for the group into organiastional tasks and I suspect others
have other things they would rather do.

Before I start thinking about moving away from our own server to
standard pm.org infrastructure I thought I should ask whether anyone
wants to complete the work done so far.

Please note, I'm not asking for alternative offers of hosting.  We
have a server.  We just don't seem to have people willing to
configure, update and maintain a server.  I have no problem with that,
but I thought I should check this is the case before changing
anything.

Tom





London.pm Server for Mailing List and Web Site

2013-02-12 Thread Tom Hukins
Hi all,

London.pm runs its mailing lists, Web site and IRC bot from a FreeBSD
jail called windmill kindly hosted by Exonetric.

The server running this jail is very old, so Exonetric have also
provided us with a much newer FreeBSD 8 jail that various people have
done some work on migrating us to.

However, as far as I can tell work on this has stalled.  I want to put
my energy for the group into organiastional tasks and I suspect others
have other things they would rather do.

Before I start thinking about moving away from our own server to
standard pm.org infrastructure I thought I should ask whether anyone
wants to complete the work done so far.

Please note, I'm not asking for alternative offers of hosting.  We
have a server.  We just don't seem to have people willing to
configure, update and maintain a server.  I have no problem with that,
but I thought I should check this is the case before changing
anything.

Tom