Re: Main general Perl mailing list
gvim said:
On 12/02/2014 16:11, Dave Cross wrote:
Why did you want to know?
I asked because I wanted to know which mailing list, outside of the PM
lists, is considered to be the main mailing list for general Perl questions.
When I looked on lists.perl.org there were 200 to choose from.
The Perl community is huge, so it hasn't been had any "main" forum like you're
looking for, for many years - if ever. That's why everyone is asking "what are
you *actually* looking for".
If you're looking for authoriy voices, they can be found everywhere, all of
them specialized in certain fields and often with their own rules and
traditions. Several of us on this mailing list may be able to help you find
the right forum (if there is one) for your purposes, but we can't really help
you if you're not willing to go beyond your current position.
You won't find a "CEO of Perl" or some "Perl Steering committee" mailing list.
There isn't one. We're all distributed and only as organized as we have to,
and as long as the Perl community remains a volunteer effort, that's not
likely to change.
Having said that, volunteering comes with a cost and one thing many are wary
of, is wasting the (rather precious) time of core volunteers. That's certainly
one important reason why we ask you what your intentions are. And since you
haven't offered anything substantial, this makes certain warning bells ring. I
hope you understand.
Regards,
- Salve J. Nilsen (Oslo.pm)
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Re: Main general Perl mailing list
On 13 February 2014 17:55, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "gvim" == gvim writes: > > gvim> I asked because I wanted to know which mailing list, outside of > gvim> the PM lists, is considered to be the main mailing list for > gvim> general Perl questions. When I looked on lists.perl.org there were > gvim> 200 to choose from. > Occasionally one gets this sort of "I'll just keep repeating myself verbatim" treatment, but usually from people working in call centres or help desks of some sort, not from someone this list might consider a fellow community member. It's a little bit frustrating, because we'd like to help. But hey ho. > > If you keep being non-informative about the context of your question, > most people here will just continue to ignore you. > :-) 3
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
> "gvim" == gvim writes: gvim> I asked because I wanted to know which mailing list, outside of gvim> the PM lists, is considered to be the main mailing list for gvim> general Perl questions. When I looked on lists.perl.org there were gvim> 200 to choose from. And what would you do with that information (if it existed) once you received it? Are you trying to update some sort of website or knowledge base about programming languages? Or do you have a specific question you would post to that list (if it existed)? OR WHAT? If you keep being non-informative about the context of your question, most people here will just continue to ignore you. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
On 12/02/2014 16:11, Dave Cross wrote: Quoting gvim : On 12/02/2014 15:38, Chris Devers wrote: Is there a "main general Perl mailing list"? What's the actual question? "What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries." I've answered that. There isn't one. That was a reply to Chris, not a repetition of the question. Why did you want to know? Dave... I asked because I wanted to know which mailing list, outside of the PM lists, is considered to be the main mailing list for general Perl questions. When I looked on lists.perl.org there were 200 to choose from. gvim
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
On 12 February 2014 19:15, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Dave Hodgkinson > wrote: > > ...or the IRC channels for the thing you're having problems with. > > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll ask > on IRC." Now they have two problems. > > :) > That's very true of many channels, but not at all with #perl6 (freenode). It's almost like it's not a perl group at all.
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > ...or the IRC channels for the thing you're having problems with. Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll ask on IRC." Now they have two problems. :)
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
On 12 February 2014 17:08, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > Mailing lists kind of suck for most question/answer sequences; what > they are good at is discussion (witness this thread). > > For general perl questions, > http://perlmonks.org/?node=Seekers+of+Perl+Wisdom or stackoverflow. Originally general discussion was on comp.lang.perl.misc which died with Usenet. Mailing lists seem to be going the same way (at least for general discussion where they never seem to work very well). People mostly use websites such as the two mentioned above and blogs.perl.org IRC is particularly strong in the Perl 6 community. S
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
Try stackoverflow or perl monks rather than a list. On 12 Feb 2014 15:28, "gvim" wrote: > What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general > Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries. > > gvim >
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
...or the IRC channels for the thing you're having problems with. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > Mailing lists kind of suck for most question/answer sequences; what > they are good at is discussion (witness this thread). > > For general perl questions, > http://perlmonks.org/?node=Seekers+of+Perl+Wisdom or stackoverflow. > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Tom Hukins wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:08:28AM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 AM, gvim wrote: > >> > >> > "What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for > general > >> > Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries." > >> > > >> That's it? This is purely a surveying activity? Or did you want to ask > this > >> hypothetical "general" list a question, too? > > > > In case this adverserial conversation turns unpleasant, I think Chris > > is pointing out that if you explain why you're asking a question we > > can provide more helpful answers. > > > > You've already received the correct answer "there isn't one" but if > > you tell us what you would do with such a list if one existed, we > > might be able to point you at other helpful things. > > > > Tom >
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
Mailing lists kind of suck for most question/answer sequences; what they are good at is discussion (witness this thread). For general perl questions, http://perlmonks.org/?node=Seekers+of+Perl+Wisdom or stackoverflow. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Tom Hukins wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:08:28AM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 AM, gvim wrote: >> >> > "What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general >> > Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries." >> > >> That's it? This is purely a surveying activity? Or did you want to ask this >> hypothetical "general" list a question, too? > > In case this adverserial conversation turns unpleasant, I think Chris > is pointing out that if you explain why you're asking a question we > can provide more helpful answers. > > You've already received the correct answer "there isn't one" but if > you tell us what you would do with such a list if one existed, we > might be able to point you at other helpful things. > > Tom
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:08:28AM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 AM, gvim wrote: > > > "What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general > > Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries." > > > That's it? This is purely a surveying activity? Or did you want to ask this > hypothetical "general" list a question, too? In case this adverserial conversation turns unpleasant, I think Chris is pointing out that if you explain why you're asking a question we can provide more helpful answers. You've already received the correct answer "there isn't one" but if you tell us what you would do with such a list if one existed, we might be able to point you at other helpful things. Tom
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
Quoting gvim : On 12/02/2014 15:38, Chris Devers wrote: Is there a "main general Perl mailing list"? What's the actual question? "What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries." I've answered that. There isn't one. Why did you want to know? Dave...
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:52 AM, gvim wrote: > On 12/02/2014 15:38, Chris Devers wrote: > >> Is there a "main general Perl mailing list"? >> >> What's the actual question? >> > > "What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general > Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries." > That's it? This is purely a surveying activity? Or did you want to ask this hypothetical "general" list a question, too? -- Chris Devers
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
On 12/02/2014 15:38, Chris Devers wrote: Is there a "main general Perl mailing list"? What's the actual question? "What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries." gvim
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
Quoting gvim : What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries. There isn't one. Perl mailing lists are all specialised in some way. Dave...
Re: Main general Perl mailing list
Is there a "main general Perl mailing list"? What's the actual question? -- Chris Devers
Main general Perl mailing list
What is the main general Perl mailing list, ie. most active for general Perl questions? lists.perl.org has over 200 entries. gvim
