PHP (was Re: website maintenance gig available)

2011-08-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 12:12:11PM +, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
 Isn't 'PHP skill' an oxymoron?

On this topic, dear lazyweb, er list.

My search engine skills fail me.

Isn't there some quote, roughly you don't program PHP, you ??? it until it
works, possibly attributed to Randal Schwartz?

Does anyone know the one I'm failing to describe? And the citation?

[And if I'm seen as maybe being unfair on a language which takes the
worse-is-better approach to dazzling new depths [Larry Wall] I point you
all to

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?word1=php+vulnerabilityword2=perl+vulnerability
]

Nicholas Clark


Re: PHP (was Re: website maintenance gig available)

2011-08-03 Thread Joel Bernstein
On 3 August 2011 14:55, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:
 Isn't there some quote, roughly you don't program PHP, you ??? it until it
 works, possibly attributed to Randal Schwartz?

you don't code php. you merely edit it until it works. - merlyn

 Does anyone know the one I'm failing to describe? And the citation?

I can't find a citation. Only pfig's signature. Presumably Pedro knows
where he is quoting from.

/joel


Re: PHP (was Re: website maintenance gig available)

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 13:55, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:
 Isn't there some quote, roughly you don't program PHP, you ??? it until it
 works, possibly attributed to Randal Schwartz?

There's a little-known Google search trick: * can be used as a word substitute.

Try,

you don't code PHP you * it until it works

...confirms you are right.

That said, I think most PHP programmers accepted this openly before
anyone needed to say it.

Paul (who has given a why PHP is great talk too in case it sounds
like I'm starting a language flame war :))