Re: Penderel ssh
Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:44:24AM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: > > (OTOH, a published alternative admin address would be > > useful for when penderel is b0rken... sending email to root > > at brokenbox is not going to do a lot of good :) > > You can probably guess at least three of them :-) Probably... but when something is b0rken I don't necessarily want to dig through my mail archive hoping that I've kept some emails from them so that I can look up their addresses. (And at home I don't have my london-list spool available at all.) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Penderel ssh
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:44:24AM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote: > I don't know, but for some reason I have this mental image of mail to root > landing in a file on the mail spool on the box and sitting there for an > indefinite time until someone logs in as root (which probably doesn't happen This would definitely be a very sloppy set-up. root should always be in /etc/aliases or its equivalent. In fact under some circumstances MTAs won't even deliver to root's mail spool as they'll be too low a privilege. Further, doing ordinary non-system admin tasks like reading mail as root is a sloppy practice. > (OTOH, a published alternative admin address would be useful for when > penderel is b0rken... sending email to root at brokenbox is not going to do > a lot of good :) You can probably guess at least three of them :-) There is also a mailing list sysops but that's more for internal use but certainly no-one would object to questions or suggestions there. Sending to the list about penderel issues is not a terribly effective route. A) 297 other people don't want to know about it B) a chat list isn't read as high priority as people's inbox. Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ "If the car doesn't start in the rain, then there will be much jubilation in the streets tonight." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Re: Penderel ssh
Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 07:18:39PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > Just curious. Not sure who penderel admins are, hence list post. > > Man, sometimes I wonder about you folk :-) root a' london d' > pm d' org. I don't know, but for some reason I have this mental image of mail to root landing in a file on the mail spool on the box and sitting there for an indefinite time until someone logs in as root (which probably doesn't happen all that often in normal operation) and reads his mail -- while mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" would go straight to the admin. Does mail to root get forwarded to all who have root? Or do people check root mail every day? In that case, I suppose root would be OK. (OTOH, a published alternative admin address would be useful for when penderel is b0rken... sending email to root at brokenbox is not going to do a lot of good :) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Penderel ssh
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 07:18:39PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Just curious. Not sure who penderel admins are, hence list post. Man, sometimes I wonder about you folk :-) root a' london d' pm d' org. /etc had a rough time (see blech's earlier post) so password problems ensued. Best thing to do at least initially is send over a SSH public key (~/.ssh/*.pub; SSHv2 preferably) and we'll sort it out. Goes for anyone else in this situation of course. Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ "If my brain fell out, then there will be much jubilation in the streets tonight." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Penderel ssh
Lo, Penderel told me the host key had changed when I ssh'd to it just now, which I put down to various repairs etc. on penderel. But then penderel reckonded I didn't know my own password, which is a slanderous lie. Has someone been fiddling with ssh? Or did my account die? Or did we get hacked? Just curious. Not sure who penderel admins are, hence list post. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, +44 (0)20 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
