Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-28 Thread Richard Clamp
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 12:42:38PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> On the other hand, given that the sum raised was so substantial (an 
> also in light of how search.cpan.org went to orange for a bit even 
> though the "orange" group lost, in honour of the substantial bid, as I 
> understood), wouldn't it be a nice gesture to offer a full year?
> 
> I mean, if 200 euros would have made the page French until the end of 
> the year, surely 1372 euros can do so for an entire year?

Based upon my understanding of auctions it would have required 1372
euros to make it French, for the agreed time period.

If anything by your logic we could expect to see both sites being
English for a period of time as a gesture towards the losing side, but
that would still be up to the respective leaders of Paris and
London.pm.

-- 
Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-28 Thread Philip Newton
On 27 Jul 2003 at 17:24, Richard Clamp wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 05:21:03PM +0100, Michael Chamberlain wrote:
> > >So, in conclusion both London.pm and Paris.pm will have their homepage
> > >in Esperanto until the end of the year.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > You mean for the next 12 months, not until december ;)
> 
> No, until the end of the year.

On the other hand, given that the sum raised was so substantial (an 
also in light of how search.cpan.org went to orange for a bit even 
though the "orange" group lost, in honour of the substantial bid, as I 
understood), wouldn't it be a nice gesture to offer a full year?

I mean, if 200 euros would have made the page French until the end of 
the year, surely 1372 euros can do so for an entire year?

Koraj salutoj,
Filipo.
-- 
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 05:20:15PM +0100, Michael Chamberlain wrote:
> Better question, what do we do for words such as 'programming', 'london'
> and 'paris' which don't seam to have an equivalent word?

Oh, they have words, don't you worry. :-)

'Programming' is 'programado' from the root 'program', the -ad- affix
meaning a continuous action much like English's -ing in fact, and the -o
ending which denotes a noun.

See if you can figure out what senerarigado means. Hint:
sen-: without;
erar: error;
-ig-: to make something so;
-ad-: continuous action;
-o: noun

Funnily enough, there was an article on Esperanto, its popularity,
history, and culture in the Guardian just recently:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,995249,00.html
Explains how it's been suppressed over the years which is quite
interesting reading.

Huge thanks to everyone at Paris YAPC who pretty much took over (Piers
too for herding it) and raised the bid up to _1371_ euros. Astonishing!

Paul "Esperanto parolata c^i-tie" M


-- 
Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/

"What is a bloke in love? Nectar of the gods!"
   -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/



Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Michael Chamberlain
http://wwwtios.cs.utwente.nl/traduk/EO-EN/Translate/

Better question, what do we do for words such as 'programming', 
'london'
and 'paris' which don't seam to have an equivalent word?


http://dictionaries.travlang.com/EnglishEsperanto/dict.cgi

offers words for paris and london.

Mike.




Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Richard Clamp
On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 05:21:03PM +0100, Michael Chamberlain wrote:
> >So, in conclusion both London.pm and Paris.pm will have their homepage
> >in Esperanto until the end of the year.
> >
> >
> 
> You mean for the next 12 months, not until december ;)

No, until the end of the year.

-- 
Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Michael Chamberlain
So, in conclusion both London.pm and Paris.pm will have their homepage
in Esperanto until the end of the year.

You mean for the next 12 months, not until december ;)

Mike.




Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:

> So if we win, Paris.pm have to change their page to English.  If
> Paris.pm win, we have to change our page to French.

Well, there's good news and bad news, and good news and bad news.  The
good news is that we raised 1300 Euros for YAS with this little adventure.
The bad news is that we lost.  The good news is so did the French.  The
bad news is that the language that got the highest bid was Esperanto.

So, in conclusion both London.pm and Paris.pm will have their homepage
in Esperanto until the end of the year.

Whoops.

Mark.

-- 
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};



Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Michael Chamberlain

So what was the result?
A certain Esperantophone (sp?) member of the list made an exceptionally
generous donation, and a lot of other people followed... Do we know the
Esperanto for 'camel'?

kamel

http://wwwtios.cs.utwente.nl/traduk/EO-EN/Translate/

Better question, what do we do for words such as 'programming', 'london'
and 'paris' which don't seam to have an equivalent word?
Mike.





Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Michael Chamberlain
On Sunday, July 27, 2003, at 05:01  pm, David Cantrell wrote:

On Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:48 am -0400 Chris Devers 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:
Maybe I didn't stress this bit enough.  If we don't raise enough 
cash to
beat the french, our web page will be written in french for a month
(well, the front page.)
Ahh... here I was thinking it was a "heads I win, tails you lose" 
deal :)
So what was the result?

--
David Cantrell

Let's say we didn't win. Neither did the french.

Mike.




Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Peter Sergeant
> So what was the result?

A certain Esperantophone (sp?) member of the list made an exceptionally
generous donation, and a lot of other people followed... Do we know the
Esperanto for 'camel'?

+Pete

-- 
B:  Pinky, Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
P:  Well, I think so, Brain, but I can't memorize a whole opera in
Yiddish.
 -- Pinky and Brain



Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread David Cantrell
On Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:48 am -0400 Chris Devers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:
Maybe I didn't stress this bit enough.  If we don't raise enough cash to
beat the french, our web page will be written in french for a month
(well, the front page.)
Ahh... here I was thinking it was a "heads I win, tails you lose" deal :)
So what was the result?

--
David Cantrell


Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-27 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:
>
> > Well, we can have a shot at this this year at the auction...the only
> > condition is that London.pm have to risk the same arrangement.
> >
> > [So if we win, Paris.pm have to change their page to English for a
> > whole month.  If Paris.pm win, we have to change their page to French
> > for a whole month.] [re-inserted -- c.d.]
>
> Maybe I didn't stress this bit enough.  If we don't raise enough cash to
> beat the french, our web page will be written in french for a month
> (well, the front page.)

Ahh... here I was thinking it was a "heads I win, tails you lose" deal :)



-- 
Chris Devers



Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-25 Thread Eric Cholet
Mark Fowler a écrit :

[1] Who are doing a wonderful job with the conference, more power to 
them.
Merci.
Blush.

--
Eric Cholet
who'll try to keep the network up 'til auction time.



Re: [ANNOUNCE] YAPC::Europe Auction

2003-07-25 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:

> Well, we can have a shot at this this year at the auction...the only
> condition is that London.pm have to risk the same arrangement.

Maybe I didn't stress this bit enough.  If we don't raise enough cash to
beat the french, our web page will be written in french for a month (well,
the front page.)

Help!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(agree now, I'll work out payments later, major credit cards *are*
accepted - no I'm not joking about this)

-- 
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};