Re: Powerline networking

2008-09-26 Thread Ian Brayshaw
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:20 +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
 Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring 
 into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing 
 sessions? 

Just work. I've used the 85Mbps and 200MBps products from Devolo[0] in a
number of properties and have never had any problems with them. Devolo
provides Linux tools for configuration (if required), while other
manufacturers tend to just do Windows  MacOS.


.ib


[0] http://www.devolo.co.uk/uk_EN/index.html




Re: Powerline networking

2008-09-26 Thread mirod

Jonathan Peterson wrote:
I confess that I sort of forgot about the whole 'network over power 
cables' thing until I needed network access in series of buildings with 
metre thick granite walls. And concrete ceilings.


Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring 
into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing 
sessions? The actual requirement is to network the various converted 
outbuildings of an old farm. My guess is that these things turn the copper 
cables into a kind of giant unswitched 10-base-2 type network. My hunch is 
that the network is shared across every building on the same loop from the 
nearest transformer - I don't see how the signal would get through a 
transformer, and I don't see why anything else would stop it. This is 
fine, as the devices appear to have some kind of security layer that 
prevents neighbours reading your network traffic.


Has anyone used this stuff? 


I use it to get to the basement, where the wifi doesn't reach. It just works.

You just have to make sure that you plug the adaptor straight into the socket, 
or in a plain extension cord. I found that any kind of power surge protection 
will break the transmission.


The model I have seems to allow some kind of password protection for your 
network, as well as defining several networks, but I haven't tried it (the 
software is Windows-only). I used it as a plain ethernet wire.


--
mirod


Re: Powerline networking

2008-09-26 Thread Raphael Mankin

On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:20 +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
 I confess that I sort of forgot about the whole 'network over power 
 cables' thing until I needed network access in series of buildings with 
 metre thick granite walls. And concrete ceilings.
 
 Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring 
 into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing 
 sessions? The actual requirement is to network the various converted 
 outbuildings of an old farm. 

Check first that the buildings are all on the same electrical phase:
farms can be on 3-phase instead of a single phase. These things will not
normally work across phases. And don't try to bridge phases, unless you
really understand the power engineering involved.



Re: Powerline networking

2008-09-26 Thread Minty
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Jonathan Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I confess that I sort of forgot about the whole 'network over power
 cables' thing until I needed network access in series of buildings with
 metre thick granite walls. And concrete ceilings.

 Does anyone know if powerline adaptors (things that turn your socket ring
 into something like a LAN) just work or require multiple faffing

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/13/solwise_pushes_powerline_sec/

I've four of these, and they mostly work a charm.

I gather it can depend a bit on how good your wiring is.  Peronally,
power-strips (four sockets, with a lead, that expands a wall socket)
really kill it.  Used directly in the wall sockets, they work really
well.

One unit didn't.  Solwise replaced it without much fuss (after I
assured them I can read and following the instructions, and had
actually tested it properly).