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On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:35:42AM -0400, Tara L Andrews wrote: p.s. No, I have no real idea what I'll do with a master's in Byzantine history. Analyse massive over-complex legacy applications written in COBOL? Oh. Not that sort of Byzantine. :-) Nicholas Clark
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On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:35:42AM -0400, Tara L Andrews wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:41:49PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? What a perfect excuse for introducing myself. Hi, I'm Tara, I have heard all sorts of scandalous and suggestive things about this group from people like Jesse Vincent (and probably others.) I graduated from MIT with a joint CS/history degree, knowing full well that no matter what my degree said I'd find employment in IT. Sure enough, I was a perl monkey at Akamai from shortly after graduation until last October, when I got laid off. I have since been re-hired as a contractor, but in the meantime I thought to myself Well, if IT isn't paying me anymore, I may as well do something fun and interesting with the other half of my degree. So I'm moving over to that side of the Atlantic in a few weeks to get a master's degree in Byzantine history at Oxford. I hope to meet many of you soon. -tara p.s. No, I have no real idea what I'll do with a master's in Byzantine history. I am hoping that either the job market will have quit sucking, or that something appropriate will present itself. You'll say to prospective employers I have a bachelor's degree from MIT and did my post-graduate work at Oxford and they will metaphorically move you to the head of the pile. Well, it'll help, anyway. Just my opinion, of course. /joel
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:41:49PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? What a perfect excuse for introducing myself. Hi, I'm Tara, I have heard all sorts of scandalous and suggestive things about this group from people like Jesse Vincent (and probably others.) I graduated from MIT with a joint CS/history degree, knowing full well that no matter what my degree said I'd find employment in IT. Sure enough, I was a perl monkey at Akamai from shortly after graduation until last October, when I got laid off. I have since been re-hired as a contractor, but in the meantime I thought to myself Well, if IT isn't paying me anymore, I may as well do something fun and interesting with the other half of my degree. So I'm moving over to that side of the Atlantic in a few weeks to get a master's degree in Byzantine history at Oxford. I hope to meet many of you soon. -tara p.s. No, I have no real idea what I'll do with a master's in Byzantine history. I am hoping that either the job market will have quit sucking, or that something appropriate will present itself.
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 03:46:35PM +0100, Robbie Scourou wrote: I am planning on taking a Film studies course. Eventually I want to become an out of work Director or Screen writer who's sideline is IT. Cool! That means I can claim to be an out of work Film Editor who dabbles in Programming. And here I thought employment opportunities were shrinking! dha, still attempting to catch up after that whole blackout thing... -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Sobriety is not an option - Alex Page
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:39:16PM +0100, Ali Young wrote: I'm starting an OU maths degree next year. This is because free time is patently evil and wrong and much be got rid of. Do you actually have any free time at the moment, though? :) I'm about to gain a hell of a lot more of it, seeing as I'll be unemployed in 28 days time. Really must update my CV _now_. When I say No IT work, like when I say There are no jobs, the slightly more serious formulation is There very few jobs, and massively fewer of them than there were 3 years ago. But, eg) most of this list has work of some kind. Even if some of us have sold our souls. *twitch* Ali -- Ali Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ali.anarres.org/ 0777 32 96 156
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: Was talking to Paul Makepeace about his recent studies in the world of personal fitness, and started wondering. What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? I'm going to be a perpetual student, because by all accounts, I'm probably unemployable anyway by now. S. -- Shevekhttp://www.anarres.org/ I am the Borg. http://www.gothnicity.org/
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:41:49PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: Was talking to Paul Makepeace about his recent studies in the world of personal fitness, and started wondering. What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? Poi. So that I can (apparently) run away and join a circus. (This is what people suggest I should do when they see me practise). I am being serious with the poi comment, though, as I would certainly like to spend at least some time doing displays when I get a bit better. The comments about the circus, however, remind me of the don't you wish you played the piccolo when I used to have to lug a double bass around... *g* -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? My usual answer for that is writing a book, but I've been saying that for quite a while now and not really got anywhere. Best not to ask me about it unless you're prepare to listen to me ramble on for hours. I'm starting an OU maths degree next year. This is because free time is patently evil and wrong and much be got rid of. I really hope there is IT work, since I'm in the process of saying goodbye to my current place of work. Ali -- Ali Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ali.anarres.org/ 0777 32 96 156
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What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? I am planning on taking a Film studies course. Eventually I want to become an out of work Director or Screen writer who's sideline is IT. Either that or a course on Silversmith-ing, which my girlfriend spotted before me. Cow. -- robbie
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On 2003.08.14 05:39 Ali Young wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? My usual answer for that is writing a book, but I've been saying that for quite a while now and not really got anywhere. Best not to ask me about it unless you're prepare to listen to me ramble on for hours. I've had precious little free time for ages. I've got an outline for a second book, an advanced-topics follow-up to my web services book (did anyone ever review that here? I'll want to link to it on the book's web page), but it needs revision before I submit it to O'Reilly. Aside from tech stuff, though, I still maintain my interest in military history and building and painting miniatures. That's what keeps bringing me over to the UK (and the last such trip was what got me onto this list, which has kept me interested even here in California :-), though it looks like no trip for me this year. Lack of funds, lack of vacation time due to other committments in the year. Terrible shame-- the pub-meet was one of the high points of my trip last November... Randy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rjray.org http://www.svsm.org Any spammers auto-extracting addresses from this message will definitely want to include [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? i'm getting my butt kicked at diplomacy (by the devious mr wistow, damn his norwegian campaign). we just started it's fun, if people are interested maybe we could organise a londonpm game oh and bowling. um, or was this a work question? /me wanders off. al -- $b{$_}=$_ for 1..9;while(@c=sort{rand.5}keys%b)[EMAIL PROTECTED]($c =!$c)?X:O;$_=123456789147258369159357;s#(.)(.)(.)#$p=$ if$a[$1]eq$a[$ 2]$a[$1]eq$a[$3]$a[$1]#eg;printf%s%s\e[m%s,$p=~/$_/?\e[7m:,$_? $a[$_]||.:\ec,$_%3?$:$/for 0..9;$p?exit:select$q,$q,$q,.1} Noughts (13 of 21)
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:01:41PM -0700, Randy J. Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've had precious little free time for ages. I've got an outline for a second book, an advanced-topics follow-up to my web services book (did anyone ever review that here? I'll want to link to it on the book's web page), but it needs revision before I submit it to O'Reilly. Your book is in my books to review pile. Having delivered the final draft of the TT book, I'm going to start working thru that pile, so expect a review in the new few weeks. Which, I guess, answers the original question of this thread as well :) Dave... -- Don't you boys know any _nice_ songs?