Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-23 Thread Robert Raszuk
Dear LSR WG,

I object on two basis ...

1)

The version -04 does not contain normative MUST that UPA shall only be used
to trigger invalidation when end to end encapsulation is used for subject
application(s). So as written is in fact quite undeployable in a mixed
vendor and legacy node(s) environment doing hop by hop routing. We can't
just hope that this is all about configuring the network in a proper way.

2)

The solution is too pragmatic ... It does not look at the problem
holistically. Yes I still think the problem is worth solving but outside of
link state IGP doing UPA blast flooding everywhere domain wide even if no
nodes need that info. As discussed at length it could be done via either
BGP indirection or via PUB-SUB model (as proposed).

Regards,
Robert


On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 10:07 PM Acee Lindem  wrote:

> LSR Working Group,
>
> This begins the working group adoption call for “IGP Unreachable Prefix
> Announcement” - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04.
> Please indicate your support or objection on this list prior to September
> 7th, 2023.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-23 Thread Tony Li

I object. This solution is a poor way of addressing the issues.  My reasons 
have been discussed to death already.

Tony


> On Aug 23, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Acee Lindem  wrote:
> 
> LSR Working Group,
> 
> This begins the working group adoption call for “IGP Unreachable Prefix 
> Announcement” - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04.
> Please indicate your support or objection on this list prior to September 
> 7th, 2023. 
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-23 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
I support WG adoption.
The problem is a useful problem to solve and the solution defined in the 
document has been implemented and proven to work.

   Les


> -Original Message-
> From: Lsr  On Behalf Of Acee Lindem
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 1:07 PM
> To: lsr 
> Cc: draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-annou...@ietf.org
> Subject: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix
> Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed
> draft name)
> 
> LSR Working Group,
> 
> This begins the working group adoption call for “IGP Unreachable Prefix
> Announcement” - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04.
> Please indicate your support or objection on this list prior to September 7th,
> 2023.
> 
> Thanks,
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[Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-23 Thread Acee Lindem
LSR Working Group,

This begins the working group adoption call for “IGP Unreachable Prefix 
Announcement” - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04.
Please indicate your support or objection on this list prior to September 7th, 
2023. 

Thanks,
Acee
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[Lsr] IPR Poll for Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name and IPR link)

2023-08-23 Thread Acee Lindem
Co-Authors, 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to 
draft-posenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04? 
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules  (see RFCs 
3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There is one IPR statement - 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft=draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond
to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any
relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the LSR WG mailing
list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a
response has been received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the LSR WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of
any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Also, since there are nine authors, it would be great if you could reduce the 
author list and make
the others contributors (which still requires an IPR response). 

Thanks,
Acee
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[Lsr] IPR Poll for Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-23 Thread Acee Lindem
Co-Authors, 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to 
draft-posenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04? 
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules  (see RFCs 
3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are a few IPR statements already - 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft=draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond
to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any
relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the LSR WG mailing
list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a
response has been received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the LSR WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of
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Also, since there are nine authors, it would be great if you could reduce the 
author list and make
the others contributors (which still requires an IPR response). 

Thanks,
Acee
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[Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-23 Thread Acee Lindem
LSR Working Group,

This begins the working group adoption call for “IGP Unreachable Prefix 
Announcement” - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04.
Please indicate your support or objection on this list prior to September 7th, 
2023. 

Thanks,
Acee 
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[Lsr] IPR Poll for Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-23 Thread Acee Lindem
Co-Authors, 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to 
draft-posenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04? 
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules  (see RFCs 
3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are a few IPR statements already - 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft=draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond
to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any
relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the LSR WG mailing
list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a
response has been received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the LSR WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of
any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Also, since there are nine authors, it would be great if you could reduce the 
author list and make
the others contributors (which still requires an IPR response). 

Thanks,
Acee
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Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang

2023-08-23 Thread Yingzhen Qu
As a co-author, I support the publication of this draft. I'm not aware of
any IPR.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 5:27 PM Christian Hopps  wrote:

>
> This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending Sep 1, 2023, for:
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang/
>
> Authors,
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> Please indicate to the list, your knowledge of any IPR related to this
> work.
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Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang

2023-08-23 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem 
Sent: 21 August 2023 15:52

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the review.

> On Aug 21, 2023, at 06:57, tom petch  wrote:
>
> From: Lsr  on behalf of Christian Hopps 
> 
> Sent: 19 August 2023 01:26
>
> This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending Sep 1, 2023, for:
>
>  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang/
>
> 
> Some stray thoughts from a quick look at -22
>
> **   It is an augmentation of the OSPF base model provided support for
> perhaps provides
>
> /ospf:ospfv3/ospf:body:
> I have forgotten what that final colon does but it is not in the YANG
>
> OLD
> |  +--ro prefix-options
> |  |  +--ro prefix-options*   identityref
> NEW
> |  +--ro prefix-options
> |  |  +--ro prefix-option*   identityref
> might be clearer with the singular

This is a leaf-list of options. One can debate whether it would be cleaner if 
it were singular. However, this is moot point as this is from RFC 9129.


Ah yes, I missed that when reviewing ospf-yang

Tom Petch

>
> identity ospfv3-e-inter-area-router-lsa {
> ...
>   reference
> "RFC 8362: OSPFv3 Link State Advertisement (LSA)
>  Extensibility, Section 4.3";
> Section 4.4 I think
> I have not checked to see which section the data objects relate to

Fixed.

>
>   description
> "Intra-Area Prefix TLV Grouping";
>   reference
> "RFC 8362: OSPFv3 Link State Advertisement (LSA)
>  Extensibility, Section 3.4";
> Section  3.7 I think
> I have not checked to see which section the data objects relate to

Fixed.



>
> reference
>   "RFC 8362: OSPFv3 Link State Advertisement (LSA)
>Extensibility, Appendix B - AreaExtendedLSASupport";
> (twice)
> Appendix B is Area Configuration Parameters

Fixed.

Thanks,
Acee

>
> Tom Petch
>
> Authors,
>
> Please indicate to the list, your knowledge of any IPR related to this work.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris.
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