Re: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

2023-11-28 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 
Dhruv –

Thanx for finding this and updating the IETF case – I had looked and indeed saw 
the issue in the minutes of other WGs.
Also thanx to Yingzhen for uploading the chat history – you can now see a more 
readable format in the LSR Minutes.

   Les

From: Dhruv Dhody 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2023 11:24 PM
To: Acee Lindem 
Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Yingzhen Qu 
; lsr ; lsr-chairs 
Subject: Re: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

Hi Acee/Les,

Seems to be a known issue, See 
https://github.com/ietf-tools/datatracker/issues/5952

Perhaps we can comment there asking the tools team to prioritize its resolution!

Thanks!
Dhruv

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:18 AM Acee Lindem 
mailto:acee.i...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Les -
The LSR WG list is no place to vent on this topic. Open a ticket via 
supp...@ietf.org<mailto:supp...@ietf.org>. Also, this would be a good issue to 
raise in your IETF 118 survey response.
Acee


On Nov 26, 2023, at 18:29, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 
mailto:ginsb...@cisco.com>> wrote:

FWIW –

The new format for the chatlog is much less readable than previous.

Here is the format from IETF 116:



Ketan Talaulikar
00:39:39
There is a WG draft for per-algo adj-sid :
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-algorithm-related-adjacency-sid/

If we have large number of links, we are advertising many other
attributes per link - so I am also missing the point of
"compressing" only the adj-sid advertisement.
* Weiqiang Cheng
00:41:58
The similar solution for SRv6 is on the link:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheng-lsr-isis-srv6-sid-block/
…


Here is the format from IETF 118:


", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:17Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "
isn't this useful for OSPF too?
", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:37Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
Could be - in which case you would have \"OSPF-Support\" module.
", "time": "2023-11-06T09:07:03Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
Different modules.
…


(BTW, there seems to be no chat history in the minutes for IETF 117)

If this is because of some meetecho change, please let them know the old format 
was better.
If this is just a format change introduced by the way cut and paste was done  
to the minutes, it would be nice to update it.

Thanx.

   Les

From: Lsr mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of 
Yingzhen Qu
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 6:18 AM
To: lsr mailto:lsr@ietf.org>>; lsr-chairs 
mailto:lsr-cha...@ietf.org>>
Subject: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

Hi,

The meeting minutes of IETF 118 LSR session is available: IETF-118 : 
lsr<https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/session/lsr>

Please review and let us know if any corrections are needed.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

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Re: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

2023-11-27 Thread Dhruv Dhody 
Hi Acee/Les,

Seems to be a known issue, See
https://github.com/ietf-tools/datatracker/issues/5952

Perhaps we can comment there asking the tools team to prioritize its
resolution!

Thanks!
Dhruv

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 5:18 AM Acee Lindem  wrote:

> Les -
> The LSR WG list is no place to vent on this topic. Open a ticket via
> supp...@ietf.org. Also, this would be a good issue to raise in your IETF
> 118 survey response.
> Acee
>
> On Nov 26, 2023, at 18:29, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 
> wrote:
>
> FWIW –
>
> The new format for the chatlog is much less readable than previous.
>
> Here is the format from IETF 116:
>
> 
>
> Ketan Talaulikar
> 00:39:39
> There is a WG draft for per-algo adj-sid :
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-algorithm-related-adjacency-sid/
>
> If we have large number of links, we are advertising many other
> attributes per link - so I am also missing the point of
> "compressing" only the adj-sid advertisement.
> * Weiqiang Cheng
> 00:41:58
> The similar solution for SRv6 is on the link:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheng-lsr-isis-srv6-sid-block/
> …
> 
>
> Here is the format from IETF 118:
>
> 
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:17Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "
> isn't this useful for OSPF too?
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:37Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
> Could be - in which case you would have \"OSPF-Support\" module.
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:07:03Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
> Different modules.
> …
> 
>
> (BTW, there seems to be no chat history in the minutes for IETF 117)
>
> If this is because of some meetecho change, please let them know the old
> format was better.
> If this is just a format change introduced by the way cut and paste was
> done  to the minutes, it would be nice to update it.
>
> Thanx.
>
>Les
>
> *From:* Lsr  *On Behalf Of *Yingzhen Qu
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 6:18 AM
> *To:* lsr ; lsr-chairs 
> *Subject:* [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes
>
> Hi,
>
> The meeting minutes of IETF 118 LSR session is available: IETF-118 : lsr
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/session/lsr>
>
> Please review and let us know if any corrections are needed.
>
> Thanks,
> Yingzhen
>
>
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Re: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

2023-11-26 Thread Yingzhen Qu 
Hi,

The meeting minutes have been updated to include the chat history:
minutes-118-lsr-202311060830-01.md
(ietf.org)
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/materials/minutes-118-lsr-202311060830-01>

Please review and let us know if any changes need to be made.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 3:29 PM Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 
wrote:

> FWIW –
>
>
>
> The new format for the chatlog is much less readable than previous.
>
>
>
> Here is the format from IETF 116:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Ketan Talaulikar
> 00:39:39
> There is a WG draft for per-algo adj-sid :
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-algorithm-related-adjacency-sid/
>
> If we have large number of links, we are advertising many other
> attributes per link - so I am also missing the point of
> "compressing" only the adj-sid advertisement.
> * Weiqiang Cheng
> 00:41:58
> The similar solution for SRv6 is on the link:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheng-lsr-isis-srv6-sid-block/
>
> …
>
> 
>
>
>
> Here is the format from IETF 118:
>
>
>
> 
>
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:17Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "
>
> isn't this useful for OSPF too?
>
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:37Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
>
> Could be - in which case you would have \"OSPF-Support\" module.
>
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:07:03Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
>
> Different modules.
>
> …
>
> 
>
>
>
> (BTW, there seems to be no chat history in the minutes for IETF 117)
>
>
>
> If this is because of some meetecho change, please let them know the old
> format was better.
>
> If this is just a format change introduced by the way cut and paste was
> done  to the minutes, it would be nice to update it.
>
>
>
> Thanx.
>
>
>
>Les
>
>
>
> *From:* Lsr  *On Behalf Of * Yingzhen Qu
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 6:18 AM
> *To:* lsr ; lsr-chairs 
> *Subject:* [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> The meeting minutes of IETF 118 LSR session is available: IETF-118 : lsr
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/session/lsr>
>
>
>
> Please review and let us know if any corrections are needed.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yingzhen
>
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Re: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

2023-11-26 Thread Acee Lindem 
Les - 
The LSR WG list is no place to vent on this topic. Open a ticket via 
supp...@ietf.org. Also, this would be a good issue to raise in your IETF 118 
survey response. 
Acee

> On Nov 26, 2023, at 18:29, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)  wrote:
> 
> FWIW –
>  
> The new format for the chatlog is much less readable than previous.
>  
> Here is the format from IETF 116:
>  
> 
> Ketan Talaulikar
> 00:39:39
> There is a WG draft for per-algo adj-sid :
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-algorithm-related-adjacency-sid/
> 
> If we have large number of links, we are advertising many other
> attributes per link - so I am also missing the point of
> "compressing" only the adj-sid advertisement.
> * Weiqiang Cheng
> 00:41:58
> The similar solution for SRv6 is on the link:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheng-lsr-isis-srv6-sid-block/
> 
> …
> 
>  
> Here is the format from IETF 118:
>  
> 
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:17Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "
> isn't this useful for OSPF too?
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:37Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
> Could be - in which case you would have \"OSPF-Support\" module.
> ", "time": "2023-11-06T09:07:03Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
> Different modules.
> …
> 
>  
> (BTW, there seems to be no chat history in the minutes for IETF 117)
>  
> If this is because of some meetecho change, please let them know the old 
> format was better.
> If this is just a format change introduced by the way cut and paste was done  
> to the minutes, it would be nice to update it.
>  
> Thanx.
>  
>Les
>  
> From: Lsr  On Behalf Of Yingzhen Qu
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 6:18 AM
> To: lsr ; lsr-chairs 
> Subject: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes
>  
> Hi,
>  
> The meeting minutes of IETF 118 LSR session is available: IETF-118 : lsr 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/session/lsr>
>  
> Please review and let us know if any corrections are needed.
>  
> Thanks,
> Yingzhen

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Re: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

2023-11-26 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 
FWIW –

The new format for the chatlog is much less readable than previous.

Here is the format from IETF 116:



Ketan Talaulikar
00:39:39
There is a WG draft for per-algo adj-sid :
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-algorithm-related-adjacency-sid/

If we have large number of links, we are advertising many other
attributes per link - so I am also missing the point of
"compressing" only the adj-sid advertisement.
* Weiqiang Cheng
00:41:58
The similar solution for SRv6 is on the link:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheng-lsr-isis-srv6-sid-block/
…


Here is the format from IETF 118:


", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:17Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "
isn't this useful for OSPF too?
", "time": "2023-11-06T09:06:37Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
Could be - in which case you would have \"OSPF-Support\" module.
", "time": "2023-11-06T09:07:03Z"}, {"author": "Les Ginsberg", "text": "
Different modules.
…


(BTW, there seems to be no chat history in the minutes for IETF 117)

If this is because of some meetecho change, please let them know the old format 
was better.
If this is just a format change introduced by the way cut and paste was done  
to the minutes, it would be nice to update it.

Thanx.

   Les

From: Lsr  On Behalf Of Yingzhen Qu
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 6:18 AM
To: lsr ; lsr-chairs 
Subject: [Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

Hi,

The meeting minutes of IETF 118 LSR session is available: IETF-118 : 
lsr<https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/session/lsr>

Please review and let us know if any corrections are needed.

Thanks,
Yingzhen
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[Lsr] IETF 118 LSR Minutes

2023-11-20 Thread Yingzhen Qu 
Hi,

The meeting minutes of IETF 118 LSR session is available: IETF-118 : lsr


Please review and let us know if any corrections are needed.

Thanks,
Yingzhen
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