Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help I have the PROM/EPROM burner to write eprom's for the NIC, but this came at a wrong time, I am currently in Germany and wouldn't be back until the 26 of Aug. Sorry, Warren. That's okay, Wilson Chan said that he has those types of devices. We would just have to identify which cards are usable for this purpose, and which chips are compatible with those cards. Would you happen to know, or know where to look for this info?
Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help
That's okay, Wilson Chan said that he has those types of devices. We would just have to identify which cards are usable for this purpose, and which chips are compatible with those cards. Would you happen to know, or know where to look for this info? Boot images normally fit on 16k bytes or 32k bytes eprom. I think the chip label this way, it's like 27xxx, where xxx = 128(27128) which is 16kbytes, because IC use bits in the label: 128kbit/8 =16kbyte. I think most NIC works on 12ns or faster. -- This message was sent from whoever.net http://www.whoever.net using MailMan
[luau] Help needed with kernel patching
hey folks, It's been a few years since i did this, so any help you can provide is greatly appreciated. I need to patch a kernel from 2.4.9-31 to 2.4.12 and then apply another patch to enable PPTP masquerading - http://www.impsec.org/linux/masquerade/netfilter_pptp_2_4_12.patch.gz It's my understanding that kernel patches must be made incrementally i.e., apply 2.4.10 before applying 2.4.11, but on the kernel.org site (http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/), the 2.4.11 patch series is labeled as patch-2.4.11-dontuse.gz h Aloha, Ho'ala - Free webmail with a statement! Signup today - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [luau] Firewall question..
Sorry if this message dupes, I used the wrong from address the first time and the listserver held it. I was hoping that you'd reply I do not like ipfwadm either. Maybe its time to look for an alternative to FreeSco like you suggested. I did kludge something together to work for the time being. I had to use ipfwadm on each different destination computer that gets a port forwarded to it and define the access rules there. Not an easy way to manage the rules but it will work until I get a different router solution running. Thanks for the input. On 1 Aug 2002 at 2:08, MonMotha wrote: I did use ipfwadm many moons ago and I hated it. Trust me when I say you will not regret upgrading, even if it means jumping through some hoops.
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Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help
You might want to check your date. Your messages are being sent from the beginning of time (UNIX epoch), and are one step away from catching at least my (rather forgiving) spam filters. Please check your clock. --MonMotha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's okay, Wilson Chan said that he has those types of devices. We would just have to identify which cards are usable for this purpose, and which chips are compatible with those cards. Would you happen to know, or know where to look for this info? Boot images normally fit on 16k bytes or 32k bytes eprom. I think the chip label this way, it's like 27xxx, where xxx = 128(27128) which is 16kbytes, because IC use bits in the label: 128kbit/8 =16kbyte. I think most NIC works on 12ns or faster.
Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help
Brian, I am sorry but it is currently not possible for me to be there during the evening... although there may be one exception. * About 25 monitors need to be tested (50 are tested) to check if they are good or bad. * Good monitors need to be transported from a classroom to Pricebusters. * Bad monitors need to be transported to Royal Data, and perhaps negotiate a deal with the guy to trade the many broken for a small number of working monitors. If he doesn't want to deal, no problem, just give it to him. * Roughly 3 monitors are not bad, but blurry. Perhaps these are easily fixable. * Several good computers need to be transported to Pricebusters. (Jimen could you please post the address, driving directions and perhaps a small map to the Pricebusters locations on the Wiki?) Aside from the work at Mid-Pac, we soon need a complete inventory of the hardware at Pricebusters. That can be done on whatever schedule you can work out with them. There is one problem in that the online chat meeting is tonight at 7pm, so Thursday evening would be bad. Is anyone else interested in helping Friday evening with the transport of monitors and computers? - Original Message - From: Brian Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: RE: [luau] My schedule - how you can help Aloha Warren, I can make it posibly on both days :) Until what time will you be there at the school? On Thursday, I can make it there at about 6:30PM or so. Friday is looking about the same. Thanks, Brian
[luau] Nmap 3.00 Released!
- Original Message - From: Fyodor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Nmap 3.00 Released! [ Side note: We had to change IPs due to changing racks at our colocation facility. If you have trouble reaching www.insecure.org, try http://64.71.184.53/ ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello everyone, I am pleased to announce that Nmap version is finally available at http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ . After more than 2 years and 39 beta releases, the stable 3.00 release has arrived. And just in time for your Blackhat, Defcon, and USENIX Sec shenanigans :). The changes in 3.00 (over 2.53) are dramatic, and we recommend that all current users upgrade. Here is a list of the most important changes (a much more comprehensive list is at http://www.insecure.org/nmap/data/CHANGELOG ): o Added protocol scan (-sP), which determines what IP protocols (TCP, IGMP, GRE, UDP, ICMP, etc) are supported by a given host. This uses a clever technique designed and implemented by Gerhard Rieger . o Nmap now recognizes more than 700 operating system versions and network devices (printers, webcams, routers, etc) thanks to thousands of contributions from the user community! Many operating systems were even recognized by Nmap prior to their official release. Nmap3 also recognizes 2148 port assignments, 451 SunRPC services, and 144 IP protocols. o Added Idlescan (-sI), which bounces the scan off a zombie machine. This can be used to bypass certain (poorly configured) firewalls and packet filters. In addition, this is the most stealthy Nmap scan mode, as no packets are sent to the target from your true IP address. o The base Nmap package now builds and functions under Windows! It is distributed in three forms: build-it-yourself source code, a simple command-line package, or along with a nice GUI interface (NmapWin) and a fancy installer. This is due to the hard work of Ryan Permeh (from eEye), Andy Lutomirski, and Jens Vogt. o Mac OS X is now supported, as well as the latest versions of Linux, OpenBSD, Solaris, FreeBSD, and most other UNIX platforms. Nmap has also been ported to several handheld devices -- see the Related Projects page for further information. o XML output (-oX) is now available for smooth interoperability between Nmap and other tools. o Added ICMP Timestamp and Netmask ping types (-PP and -PM). These (especially timestamp) can be useful against some hosts that do not respond to normal ping (-PI) packets. Nmap still allows TCP ping as well. o Nmap can now detect the uptime of many hosts when the OS Scan option (-O) is used. o Several new tests have been added to make OS detection more accurate and provide more granular version information. o Removed 128.210.*.* addresses from Nmap man page examples due to complaints from Purdue security staff. o The --data_length option was added, allowing for longer probe packets. Among other uses, this defeats certain simplistic IDS signatures. o You can now specify distinct port UDP and TCP port numbers in a single scan command using a command like 'nmap -sSU -p U:53,111,137,T:21-25,80,139,515,6000,8080 target.com'. See the man page for more usage info. o Added mysterious, undocumented --scanflags and --fuzzy options. o Nmap now provides IPID as well as TCP ISN sequence predictability reports if you use -v and -O. o SYN scan is now the default scan type for privileged (root) users. This is usually offers greater performance while reducing network traffic. o Capitalized all references to God in error messages. o Added List scan (-sL) which enumerates targets without scanning them. o The Nmap random IP scanning mode is now smart enough to skip many unallocated netblocks. o Tons of more minor features, bugfixes, and portability enhancements. MOVING FORWARD: With this stable version out of the way, I plan to dive headfirst into the next development cycle. Many exciting features are in the queue, including IPv6 support, service fingerprinting, improved performance against heavily filtered hosts, and more! Developers (or active testers) interested in participating can join the nmap-dev list by sending a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If you want to be notified of new releases and important announcements, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to join that list. DOWNLOAD INFO: Nmap is available for download from http://www.insecure.org/nmap in source or compiled form. Nmap is Free software distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL). For the more paranoid (smart) members of the list, here are the md5 hashes: 2b648bc66f1cedbeed230ef56f6549a8 nmap-3.00.tgz cfb513f4083d1de94d2361bd2451f59b nmap-3.00-1.i386.rpm 2d04682e972d954061e209865c8bf5af nmap-3.00-1.src.rpm fc4a43dcd2e038acc5f15d534cf8c079 nmap-3.00-win32.zip 002adb9b0d2e19b007c7de8929cf5e97 nmap-frontend-3.00-1.i386.rpm
[luau] Reminder - Tonight 7pm MPLUG online chat meeting
Thursday, August 1st MPLUG Online Chat Meeting Message me at Laven2 in order to be invited to the chatroom We will discuss about the many new developments, the status of hardware, bootable network cards and a call to arms in Linux volunteer community service work. If you do not already have AIM, it is very quick and easy to use on any platform. If you have the Java plugin you do not even need to install a client, because it can load from your web browser. If you use GAIM in Linux, it is an even better client than the official AIM client for Windows. Windows AIM http://www.aim.com/get_aim/win/latest_win.adp Java AIM http://www.aim.com/get_aim/express/aim_expr.adp GAIM for Linux Unix http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ If you need assistance in configuring the Java plugin or GAIM on Linux, please write back to the list and we will help you. Warren Togami [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Warren Togami wrote: * Several good computers need to be transported to Pricebusters. (Jimen could you please post the address, driving directions and perhaps a small map to the Pricebusters locations on the Wiki?) I just received the information from Al Plant. It should be on the wiki shortly. --jc -- Jimen Ching (WH6BRR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [luau] MSWindows
At 02:11 PM 7/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: He had accidentally run, as root, rm -rf /lib/* on his colocated system, hundreds of miles away. Restoring from backup was simply not an option as it would take days just to get there (as I recall he was in canada and the server was in florida). Note that it was a command line command improperly used that trashed his system in the first place. Note that this is a highly unusual situation, in which it is *perhaps* appropriate not to have reasonable backups available. In other words, the cost of doing reasonable backups and having them available was considered to be higher than taking a risk backed up only by highly expert firefighters. This looks like a good choice in retrospect? Maybe this (necessity for use of CLI) is the state of the art, but you guys are talking as if we should be resigned to this situation, or even proud of it. I am not convinced. Raving Dave
Re: [luau] MSWindows
T. David Burns wrote: At 02:11 PM 7/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: He had accidentally run, as root, rm -rf /lib/* on his colocated system, hundreds of miles away. Restoring from backup was simply not an option as it would take days just to get there (as I recall he was in canada and the server was in florida). Note that it was a command line command improperly used that trashed his system in the first place. If you'd like to explain how to delete files on a system that's 100s of miles away without using rm or a similar command line utility, I'd be happy to hear it. I don't want a oh, remote display nautilius answer either as that takes such an ungodly amount of bandwidth that I sure wouldn't want to see the bills... Note that this is a highly unusual situation, in which it is *perhaps* appropriate not to have reasonable backups available. In other words, the cost of doing reasonable backups and having them available was considered to be higher than taking a risk backed up only by highly expert firefighters. This looks like a good choice in retrospect? He had backups, but it was an issue of restoring them. He had no physical access to the server as it was hundreds of miles away. It would have taken him a few days just to get to the server, then he would still have to take the server out of the colo, restore, and then ptu it back in. Some colo companies will do restorations for you, but usually at a very high price if they will at all. Maybe this (necessity for use of CLI) is the state of the art, but you guys are talking as if we should be resigned to this situation, or even proud of it. I am not convinced. If the system's sitting at your desk or on your local lan where you can export X displays to your heart's content without paying thousands of dollars in bandwidth fees to money grubbing telcos, a nice GUI works just fine. However, when you've got a server living in a datacenter habitat that's hundreds or even thousands of miles away from you and you're paying for every bit you transmit, you'd better be sure you're gunna be workign on it from the command line. Any other method of administration is simply uneconomical. Raving Dave --MonMotha
[luau] Fwd: Need Candidates
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Need Candidates Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:33:25 -1000 From: Fumi Nakamae Korodan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rr. Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Dan, How are you? Hope all is well for you there... URGENT NEEDS: 1.Senior Branch Systems Developer and Metavante Business Analyst (all direct hires) for a local back client (Honolulu). 2.Three Field Engineers in Tokyo (all direct hires), with Cisco/Unix background, for my client's Tokyo Data Center operation. 3. Programmers with some Video Game Development background as well as C, C++, 3D, Direct X, OpenGL, etc. These are Honolulu positions. Do you know anyone who I can contact? Please let me know. I was hoping that you knew someone. I do await for your response! Hope you are doing great there... Thank you. Sincerely, ~~ Fumi Nakamae Korodan NAKAMAE HR CONSULTANTS LLC IT/Technical Recruiters Ocean View Center 707 Richards Street, Suite 508 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813 U.S.A. +1.808.548.0095 Telephone +1.808.548.0096 Facsimile +1.808.299.1433 Digital Pager --- Dear Dan, Howare you? Hope all is well for you there... URGENT NEEDS: 1. Senior Branch Systems Developer and Metavante Business Analyst (all direct hires) for a local back client (Honolulu). 2. Three FieldEngineers in Tokyo (all direct hires),with Cisco/Unix background, for my client's Tokyo Data Center operation. 3. Programmers with someVideo Game Development background as well as C, C++, 3D, Direct X, OpenGL, etc. These are Honolulu positions. Do you know anyone who I can contact?Please let me know. I was hoping that youknew someone. I do await for your response! Hopeyou are doing great there... Thank you. Sincerely, ~~ Fumi Nakamae Korodan NAKAMAEHR CONSULTANTS LLC IT/Technical Recruiters Ocean View Center 707 Richards Street, Suite 508 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813 U.S.A. +1.808.548.0095 Telephone +1.808.548.0096 Facsimile +1.808.299.1433 Digital Pager
[luau] GNOME vs. KDE
I must admit that, as one of the first adopters, I had a very strong prejudice against GNOME. Today is the first time in over a couple of years that I started GNOME, and I am quite impressed with what I saw. Some programs which have mis-behaved in KDE (e.g., Moz 1.0 and 1.1b) seem to be doing all right in GNOME. Anyone care to share your experience?
RE: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project
Aloha Jeff, I just got off the phone with Julie at PriceBusters. She said it would be no problem. When could I come and pick up the monitors? Can it be on a weekend? I need to schedual a time with you on this asap. Julie is waiting for a call back on this. Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Low Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project Thanks Al, I will call them on Thursday and make arrangements :) Brian Brian Low wrote: Aloha Warren, I just got off the phone with Jeff. I was looking at the mplug page and could not find the contact for the PriceBusters. Can you send me the info for the contact please :) Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project We are out of space at MPI for now. We will need to store these at Pricebusters. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zidek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:57 AM Subject: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project I need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project. The monitors are at Hickam AFB, and need to be gone by Monday of next week at the latest. I have a truck but they said someone else from the project needed to pick them up and sign for them. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Zidek ### RE MONITORS! Price Busters Stadium Store next to Checker Auto in the plaza where Kmart is located. Check with the manager on Duty and explain they are for Scott, The Linux Project. They will show you where you can put them. It may have to be outside the store room as it is really full. Please Tell them Julie Plant, the General Manager for the Location, knows about the delivery. Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Member Small Business Hawaii. Running FreeBSD 4.5 UNIX Caldera Linux 2.4 RedHat 7.2 Support OPEN SOURCE in Business Computing. Phone 808-622-0043 ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] My schedule - how you can help
Warren, I can help on Friday with the transport of items. The question comes down to, Royal Data still going to be open on Friday evening? Also, I can start the inventory of items at Price Busters. Does this need to be a complete inventory of all equpment (working or not working)? Or just on the working equpment. Are all the equpment at PriceBusters working? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help Brian, I am sorry but it is currently not possible for me to be there during the evening... although there may be one exception. * About 25 monitors need to be tested (50 are tested) to check if they are good or bad. * Good monitors need to be transported from a classroom to Pricebusters. * Bad monitors need to be transported to Royal Data, and perhaps negotiate a deal with the guy to trade the many broken for a small number of working monitors. If he doesn't want to deal, no problem, just give it to him. * Roughly 3 monitors are not bad, but blurry. Perhaps these are easily fixable. * Several good computers need to be transported to Pricebusters. (Jimen could you please post the address, driving directions and perhaps a small map to the Pricebusters locations on the Wiki?) Aside from the work at Mid-Pac, we soon need a complete inventory of the hardware at Pricebusters. That can be done on whatever schedule you can work out with them. There is one problem in that the online chat meeting is tonight at 7pm, so Thursday evening would be bad. Is anyone else interested in helping Friday evening with the transport of monitors and computers? - Original Message - From: Brian Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: RE: [luau] My schedule - how you can help Aloha Warren, I can make it posibly on both days :) Until what time will you be there at the school? On Thursday, I can make it there at about 6:30PM or so. Friday is looking about the same. Thanks, Brian ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Fwd: Need Candidates
You may want to forward these messages to Lei Wakayama, so she can post to the various ics lists. --Ray
Re: [luau] Fwd: Need Candidates
Ray Do you know her email? On Thursday 01 August 2002 14:09, you wrote: You may want to forward these messages to Lei Wakayama, so she can post to the various ics lists. --Ray ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Meeting Tonight
Can anyone help me set this up on my box? I havent used chat yet. Thanks!
RE: [luau] GNOME vs. KDE
Gee I only used Gnome. How is KDE? Did you like it VERY much? Been wondering bout KDE. Thanks. Randall Oshita -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W. Wayne Liauh Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] GNOME vs. KDE I must admit that, as one of the first adopters, I had a very strong prejudice against GNOME. Today is the first time in over a couple of years that I started GNOME, and I am quite impressed with what I saw. Some programs which have mis-behaved in KDE (e.g., Moz 1.0 and 1.1b) seem to be doing all right in GNOME. Anyone care to share your experience? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Fwd: Need Candidates
Do you know her email? [EMAIL PROTECTED] i believe. --Ray
[luau] HP backs off DMCA threat....c|net....8/1/02
Hewlett-Packard Thursday abandoned legal threats it made against security analysts who publicized flaws in the company's software. In a statement released late Thursday, HP said it would not use the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), a controversial copyright law, to pursue a loosely-organized team of researchers who demonstrated a bug in the company's Tru64 Unix operating system. The following is the company's statement: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-947740.html Liz
RE: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project
Aloha Jeff, Can you call me 1 more time please :) Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Low Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project Aloha Jeff, I just got off the phone with Julie at PriceBusters. She said it would be no problem. When could I come and pick up the monitors? Can it be on a weekend? I need to schedual a time with you on this asap. Julie is waiting for a call back on this. Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Low Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project Thanks Al, I will call them on Thursday and make arrangements :) Brian Brian Low wrote: Aloha Warren, I just got off the phone with Jeff. I was looking at the mplug page and could not find the contact for the PriceBusters. Can you send me the info for the contact please :) Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project We are out of space at MPI for now. We will need to store these at Pricebusters. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zidek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:57 AM Subject: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project I need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project. The monitors are at Hickam AFB, and need to be gone by Monday of next week at the latest. I have a truck but they said someone else from the project needed to pick them up and sign for them. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Zidek ### RE MONITORS! Price Busters Stadium Store next to Checker Auto in the plaza where Kmart is located. Check with the manager on Duty and explain they are for Scott, The Linux Project. They will show you where you can put them. It may have to be outside the store room as it is really full. Please Tell them Julie Plant, the General Manager for the Location, knows about the delivery. Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Member Small Business Hawaii. Running FreeBSD 4.5 UNIX Caldera Linux 2.4 RedHat 7.2 Support OPEN SOURCE in Business Computing. Phone 808-622-0043 ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help
- Original Message - From: Brian Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: RE: [luau] My schedule - how you can help Warren, I can help on Friday with the transport of items. The question comes down to, Royal Data still going to be open on Friday evening? Also, I can start the inventory of items at Price Busters. Does this need to be a complete inventory of all equpment (working or not working)? Or just on the working equpment. Are all the equpment at PriceBusters working? Thanks, Brian I will call Royal Data and ask if he can be there to receive broken monitors Friday night. None of the equipment at Pricebusters has been tested, so a complete inventory would be needed. Regarding the 30 17 monitors, what is the status of these? There has been a sudden change of plans and we can make immediate use of the 17 monitors at Mid-Pacific.
Re: [luau] Meeting Tonight
- Original Message - From: Dan George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: [luau] Meeting Tonight Can anyone help me set this up on my box? I havent used chat yet. Thanks! What distribution are you running? If you are running Red Hat 7.3 you may already have gaim installed. If not install it from this: ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.3/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/g aim-0.53-1.i386.rpm Go to this URL to register an account. http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp Message me at Laven2 in order to be invited to the chat room.
Re: [luau] Fwd: Need Candidates
Ray Strode wrote: Do you know her email? [EMAIL PROTECTED] i believe. --Ray ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Thanks Ray
[luau] Meeting Tonight
Warren Signed up with gaim. What time is the meeting tonight? Dan
Re: [luau] MSWindows
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, MonMotha wrote: Maybe this (necessity for use of CLI) is the state of the art, but you guys are talking as if we should be resigned to this situation, or even proud of it. I am not convinced. If the system's sitting at your desk or on your local lan where you can export X displays to your heart's content without paying thousands of dollars in bandwidth fees to money grubbing telcos, a nice GUI works just fine. However, when you've got a server living in a datacenter habitat that's hundreds or even thousands of miles away from you and you're paying for every bit you transmit, you'd better be sure you're gunna be workign on it from the command line. Any other method of administration is simply uneconomical. Couldn't a graphical method of executing 'rm -rf' also allow accidental deletion? An accident is an accident, no matter what tools you use. Mechanisms to prevent such accidents can be applied to CLI commands just as easily as to GUIs. --jc -- Jimen Ching (WH6BRR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help
I went to the Price Busters Stadium location today and spoke to Julie as well. Two things: 1. She will be clearing space for us to put the monitors (if you can't fit all 30 at MidPac). 2. For those interested in testing / prepping equipment for the LTSP for schools project, you MUST SIGN IN AND OUT with the manager on duty (Either Julie, Robert or Jay). Also, we must only use the front entrance (Main store entrance). Unfortunately I've hurt my leg and won't be of much use carrying anything as I can barely walk. Time to start installing GAIM... dean Warren Togami wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: RE: [luau] My schedule - how you can help Warren, I can help on Friday with the transport of items. The question comes down to, Royal Data still going to be open on Friday evening? Also, I can start the inventory of items at Price Busters. Does this need to be a complete inventory of all equpment (working or not working)? Or just on the working equpment. Are all the equpment at PriceBusters working? Thanks, Brian I will call Royal Data and ask if he can be there to receive broken monitors Friday night. None of the equipment at Pricebusters has been tested, so a complete inventory would be needed. Regarding the 30 17 monitors, what is the status of these? There has been a sudden change of plans and we can make immediate use of the 17 monitors at Mid-Pacific. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] MSWindows
Jimen Ching wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, MonMotha wrote: Maybe this (necessity for use of CLI) is the state of the art, but you guys are talking as if we should be resigned to this situation, or even proud of it. I am not convinced. If the system's sitting at your desk or on your local lan where you can export X displays to your heart's content without paying thousands of dollars in bandwidth fees to money grubbing telcos, a nice GUI works just fine. However, when you've got a server living in a datacenter habitat that's hundreds or even thousands of miles away from you and you're paying for every bit you transmit, you'd better be sure you're gunna be workign on it from the command line. Any other method of administration is simply uneconomical. Couldn't a graphical method of executing 'rm -rf' also allow accidental deletion? An accident is an accident, no matter what tools you use. Mechanisms to prevent such accidents can be applied to CLI commands just as easily as to GUIs. The solution is to never use -f when executing rm as root. If you do, make sure you aren't using it with -r also. Only if you have really checked over what's going to happen (replace -i with -f first) should you ever consider typing rm -rf as root. I know people who alias rm -rf to echo 'Don't even think about it!' so that if they type that, they have to explicitly unalias it to make it work. --jc
[luau] GAIM
I am having trouble signing on. Is there something I'm missing? It's telling me I have an invalid password or screen name.. do I need to set one up somewhere? dean
Re: [luau] GAIM
Never mind.. saw warren's last post Dean Fujioka wrote: I am having trouble signing on. Is there something I'm missing? It's telling me I have an invalid password or screen name.. do I need to set one up somewhere? dean ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] GAIM
- Original Message - From: Dean Fujioka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: [luau] GAIM I am having trouble signing on. Is there something I'm missing? It's telling me I have an invalid password or screen name.. do I need to set one up somewhere? dean Go to this URL to register an account. http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp
[luau] the spread of mailman
Good news folks, The Elist newsletter, a monthly distribution list of over 700 members in the island's tech community, now runs on qmail + mailman. Next Elist mixer is next Tuesday at the W in Waikiki. Signups welcome - http://lists.elisthawaii.com/mailman/listinfo/newsletter secretbonus! -hg - Free webmail with a statement! Signup today - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [luau] the spread of mailman
- Original Message - From: Ho'ala Greevy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: [luau] the spread of mailman Good news folks, The Elist newsletter, a monthly distribution list of over 700 members in the island's tech community, now runs on qmail + mailman. Next Elist mixer is next Tuesday at the W in Waikiki. Signups welcome - http://lists.elisthawaii.com/mailman/listinfo/newsletter secretbonus! -hg Some people have been mentioning elist lately, but what is it this organization about?
