Re: [luau] Fedora: Taking Screenshots During Installation

2003-10-31 Thread Warren Togami
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 09:01, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
> Fedora will officially debut Nov. 3.  (I suspect the traffic will be 
> completely jamed, and I don't know whether RHN subscribers will be able 
> to dl it from RedHat Network?)

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2003-October/msg04157.html
Unfortunately due to non-technical reasons the release must be delayed
to Wednesday or Thursday-ish, depending on the "export process" whatever
that means.  It might have something to do with US export approval.

On the bright side a few technical fixes were allowed into the
distribution due to the delay.

> 
> During the installation, if you want to take screenshots, press 
> shift-print_screen.  The screenshots will be saved in 
> /root/anaconda-screenshots/ . Enjoy!
> 
> The following question is for Warren, "father" of Fedora-  How much will 
> it cost to set up a Fedora (and Fedora only) mirror?

I only worked on a small part of the overall system.  I invented the
name, but otherwise Fedora is an international community that involves
many people.

As for mirroring, it costs nothing but your own hosting resources.  You
have your own server and bandwidth?  E-mail me directly and I can get
you setup.

Warren





Re: [luau] cron vs. anacron, xinetd useful?

2003-10-31 Thread Vince Hoang
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 03:07:10PM -1000, Tom_Gordon/RISE/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> You can see a list of ENABLED depended services by running this:
> 
> grep -li disable.*=.*no /etc/xinetd.d/*

RH's chkconfig will also list xinetd enabled services if xinetd is enabled:
  chkconfig --list | grep '   on'

or combine that with non-xinetd service listings:
  chkconfig --list | grep '[:]on'

Trick or treat!
-Vince


[luau] RedHat vs. SUSE

2003-10-31 Thread Hawaii Linux Institute
The following is a comment about RedHat vs. SuSE.  It contains some very 
valid points.  However, for me (and probably for a good portion of the 
population on our islands), RH9 was the only distro is fully 
unicode-compatible (UTF-8), and this pretty much settles the preference 
issue.  (I don't know whether SuSE 9 is unicode compatible, but I would 
assume it will take at least one iteration to make things right--Red Hat 
started the unicode migration in version 8.  wayne)


"I switched from RH 9.0 to SuSE 9.0 Pro because of a few 
concerns/frustrations with Redhat. (1) Difficulty with configuring 
access to the Windows network at my workplace, (2) RH's failure to 
recognize my new box's graphics card (Radeon 9200), (3) Redhat's shift 
in emphasis/philosophy away from developing and supporting directly 
Linux for the "average user".


"So far SuSE 9.0 is doing well on the above concerns plus many others. 
YaST is overall an excellent way to control bootloader configuration, 
important for someone like me who messes with several OSes. (RH does not 
make it so easy.) Or network access/configuration. And many other 
issues. I am browing our Windows network with no problems. And SuSE 9.0 
has supposedly added excellent support for accessing numerous dialup 
ISP's - a feature I admit I have not had cause to try yet. (Our family 
uses Netzero, which normally one cannot access under Linux.)


"Installation was not as easy/smooth as Redhat. Choosing software 
packages is a bit clumsy the way YaST is set up - I had to search for 
Evolution, Mozilla, GAIM and then "check" them for installation. I 
prefer Redhat's partitioning - although I admit SuSE does give more 
control. (Primary or extended? Ah!) My new Athlon box had trouble 
reading the software packages on the DVD - had to use the regular CD's, 
which defeats the whole point. And I am still having trouble getting it 
to work on my DELL Inspiron 8200 laptop, my main machine - so far SuSE 
boots to a blank screen. That's not very helpful and pretty much hoses 
the reason I bought it.


"That having been said, SuSE is still excellent. It seems much faster 
than pokey RH 9.0, much much better selection of software packages 
(Pingus!!! OpenOffice.org 1.1! KDE 3.1! and so on!), hardware 
detection/compatibility is stronger (whither Fedora?!?). Redhat (now 
Fedora) can learn some lessons - but frankly the reverse is also true. 
At least I didn't get a blank screen when using RH 9.0 on my laptop."






Re: [luau] cron vs. anacron, xinetd useful?

2003-10-31 Thread Tom_Gordon/RISE/HIDOE
If a tree falls in the woods and noone is around to hear it, does it fall? 
 You'd probably know when a service you use is no longer available.  If 
you don't know you need it then you don't need it.  Check what depends on 
xinetd.d.

You can see a list of ENABLED depended services by running this:

grep -li disable.*=.*no /etc/xinetd.d/*

This looks for all xinetd.d configs that are enabled.  You can also check 
out the directory to see which services are disabled that depend on it 
too.

Using redhat-config-services will keep you save in that it knows how these 
dependencies work (usually) and will warn you.

Tom


If I turn off xinetd, and later it turns out I need
it, how would I know?




[luau] cron vs. anacron, xinetd useful?

2003-10-31 Thread TB
I'm locking down a newly installed redhat 9, and
thinking of updating the "Linux service descriptions"
page on the mplug wiki.

If I have my machine on all the time, I should use
cron always, never anacron, right?

If I turn off xinetd, and later it turns out I need
it, how would I know?
ta!
TB




[luau] Fedora: Taking Screenshots During Installation

2003-10-31 Thread Hawaii Linux Institute
Fedora will officially debut Nov. 3.  (I suspect the traffic will be 
completely jamed, and I don't know whether RHN subscribers will be able 
to dl it from RedHat Network?)


During the installation, if you want to take screenshots, press 
shift-print_screen.  The screenshots will be saved in 
/root/anaconda-screenshots/ . Enjoy!


The following question is for Warren, "father" of Fedora-  How much will 
it cost to set up a Fedora (and Fedora only) mirror?